Don Lemon let’s cac punk him out of asking for reparations for British colonialism

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I typed it out above, her argument is insanely trash, people just don't engage with philosophy, but love to argue.

this?

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Don't feel like typing a novel, but her argument is trash, and easily combated.

Put as simply and summarized as I can, being able to trace wrongs, (and I'm taking the position at face value), doesn't alleviate those that play into the wrongs following its beginning. So if I start pillaging countries, and I have underlings or people are inspired to do the same, they are not alleviated from the causes of their harm simply because I initiated it or inspired them to do so, even if they are the first to recognize it as wrong and as a result, outlaw it.

You see, when you commit a wrong out there, it is already done, plain and simple, you can't ever really rectify that, but what we can do is compensate the affected parties to the best of our ability. In engaging with ethics, we strive to prevent wrongs from happening, because rectifying them is truly an impossibility if we analyze it properly, which is why I'm keeping this post short because something as simple as striking someone, I could type a whole report on that alone, so think about something as complex as colonialism, in truth, if put to a dollar amount, the country couldn't exist if they paid back what was truly due. And why should they pay it back? Well this plays into our moral systems and maintaining consistency, it's what I would hold them to as a means for getting agreement on reparations.

Trying to keep it short...

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Side note, another example of why Lemon isn't fit to be hosting his own show, not to suggest he is an anomaly amongst political commentators, in truth, 99% if not all that I am aware of shouldn't have their platforms, they haven't engaged with philosophy enough or even the topics they discuss to justify their airtime, it's the media, really just money, that justifies their airtime.

 

[Reflected]

this?

Yeah, that is the basic retort to her position. She is essentially saying an individual is alleviated of any wrongdoing because they weren't the originators or suppliers of harm. If someone paid me to strike her, she would take issue with both of us, not just the individual that hired me. This is very basic reasoning, but further highlights why most individuals shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

[TEH]

That rancid bytch deserves to die a terrible death and her bloodline wiped out painfully in front of her. That's like saying just because the US government banned slavery and fought a war over it (States rights my ass, states rights to own slaves more like it), then there should no reparations paid out. So much bullshyt. Does that mean that these a$$holes will pay out reparations for the bullshyt they pulled during colonization. I can't stand these useless sun-dodging neanderthal fukkers. I'm actually heated.

Don’t stress it. Retribution is real and it’s Divine.

 

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Yeah, that is the basic retort to her position. She is essentially saying an individual is alleviated of any wrongdoing because they weren't the originators or suppliers of harm. If someone paid me to strike her, she would take issue with both of us, not just the individual that hired me. This is very basic reasoning, but further highlights why most individuals shouldn't be taken seriously.

not sure if that would have done the job.

as an aside, in general it shows the value of working through your own ideas criticallly before stating them.

 

[Patrick Kane]

still no one saying what don should have said. what was he slam-dunk 5 second retort?

That those African Kings didn’t set up the Transatlantic Slave Trade and that slaves were traded long before a “system of slavery” was created by Britain (and the Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish) in a way to abuse the system and enrich their nations. So it does directly go back to Britain and colonialism.

But Don Lemon is not historically equipped or intellectually sharp enough to respond in that matter. Simple minded ass nikka

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

All the bítch àss Black democrats you shill for would do the same.

AOC would have handled that bytch with ease...

 

[Reflected]

not sure if that would have done the job.

What do you mean by "done the job"? It is what logically follows, I don't care of her retort because she has shown low reasoning abilities by putting forth her original argument in the first place. Honestly, if logical arguments "did the job", we wouldn't be in the place we are right now, one needs the foundation to recognize these arguments and accept them as true and from there make adjustments for it to "do the job", without this foundation, well then, it's just rhetoric, or "dunking on people" in debates, pure sophistry.

But if you were asking for something specific in a quick retort manner, maybe the best you can do is ask "Does not being the originator of a wrong alleviate an individual of wrongdoing?", and in response you would likely get some dancing followed with "we outlawed slavery first", "we did this and that already", all of which from a rhetorical point of view strengthens your position before the public and you would simply ask the question again and then close out the segment with her being silent for a bit, there, you won the rhetorical plane but this doesn't progress reasoning, just further muddies the water for a rhetorical trick to follow in response, down the line.

as an aside, in general it shows the value of working through your own ideas criticallly before stating them.

100%, although, this applies to both, but most notably, the individual with his on segment on the air that thousands of people tune in to watch. I covered that here and many times before:

Side note, another example of why Lemon isn't fit to be hosting his own show, not to suggest he is an anomaly amongst political commentators, in truth, 99% if not all that I am aware of shouldn't have their platforms, they haven't engaged with philosophy enough or even the topics they discuss to justify their airtime, it's the media, really just money, that justifies their airtime.

 

[Amo Husserl]

 

[Buddy]

That clip has been circulating for like a week now



Started to make a thread about how eerily similar it sounds to some of the coli faves.... but I let yall make it

 

[LuuqMaan]

The "Black people are responsible for slavery" debate is happening alot sooner than I thought. I figured we had another generation or so...when African countries are starting to have a voice in the international community.

Bruh. It’s crazy and getting louder.
I’m trying to remember which video but I’m hearing it a lot more in the black manosphere as well.

 

[⠀X ⠀]

AOC would have handled that bytch with ease...

She would have spun it into some shít about Latinos

 

[FrontoBama]

I think that white wimmen is an FBA

 

[UncleTomFord15]

Britain will never pay a penny to Jamaica or Trinidad or whatever other place they fukked over. Especially not any black countries. As a Jamaican if you're waiting for Britain to "do the right thing" you're a fool.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Who sold?

The Europeans had guns on everyone. Stop pretending this was a two way deal.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What about principles tho? The black dollar would be shown if we would stick to ourselves, turn back to The Most High and stop dating, procreating with all these other people and giving the wealth back to them. If we stop participating in their foolishness.

Minus this “most high” religious bullshyt the rest of what you’re saying is at least debatable