Don Lemon let’s cac punk him out of asking for reparations for British colonialism

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Britain will never pay a penny to Jamaica or Trinidad or whatever other place they fukked over. Especially not any black countries. As a Jamaican if you're waiting for Britain to "do the right thing" you're a fool.
I agree but at no point should you ever cede the argument.
 

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limp wristed goofy.

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White Americans can't run that play with ADOS/Freedman. U.S. slavery continued when the transatlantic trade was outlawed and the United States government was responsible for keeping the institution of chattel slavery going in the U.S. once independent from Great Britain.
 

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"You always need to go back to the beginning of the supply chain. Where was the beginning of the supply chain. That was in Africa!"

"The African Kings were rounding up there own people. They had them in cages on beaches. No one was running into Africa to get them"

The Woman King effect :sas2:


We tried telling yall the rabbit hole that movie is gonna lead to as it gives cacs their "out" on slavery.

Watch them start citing that movie and talking about how it was they who had to stop The Dahomey/slavery :sas2:


But y'all wanted to champion it well here you go, watch them now start putting out media and narratives depicting colonialist as liberators of Africans :sas1:
One of the writers of that movie is connected to the Kenyan White Elite. A particular sketchy British woman. In one of her interviews if you can read between the lines you can see that she has neo colonial aspirations. The movie was defintiely a wedge tactic. All movies are propaganda

Now the invisible algorithmic hand has Google mainly displaying results of Slavery about the Africans doing it
 
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still no one saying what don should have said. what was he slam-dunk 5 second retort?


"Not to cut you off,but you do realize some of us were already here:respect:?"


So her argument about what Africans did,and who they sold to who. Is really of no consequence to those of us who were natives to the Americas. The British who were here in the Americas took us,and sold us to other British colonies in order to fund their war with the natives. So they were the beginning of the supply chain in this scenario. Kidnapping,human trafficking,murder during the commission of a robbery(theft of a country). These are serious crimes.


But sadly black people in this country have fallen for the Europeans narrative that we all got here from Africa.


But black men are too busy building. Certainly not waiting or asking these sick puppies for reperations. You can have this shyt hole country soon enough. We have realized this isnt our home,its been made very clear. We will collect our things in a trash bag, like many men who find themselves in this situation have had too.


Might feel like an embarrassing way to leave. But theres nothing greater than clarity,peace,and being your own man:respect:


Hopefully all of you brevs across the pond will join us if you arent already too far gone and Europeanized.#BlackFreeAgency2028
 

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AOC wouldn’t have just NOT responded.

This c00n literally bytched out. Complete capitulation
AOC wouldn’t have just NOT responded.

This c00n literally bytched out. Complete capitulation

Dude is trying to keep his job. Didn’t they just take his show away? If they wanted Black hosts who’d call white people out on their fvckery, they’d hire Tariq as the host
 

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What do you mean by "done the job"? It is what logically follows, I don't care of her retort because she has shown low reasoning abilities by putting forth her original argument in the first place. Honestly, if logical arguments "did the job", we wouldn't be in the place we are right now, one needs the foundation to recognize these arguments and accept them as true and from there make adjustments for it to "do the job", without this foundation, well then, it's just rhetoric, or "dunking on people" in debates, pure sophistry.

But if you were asking for something specific in a quick retort manner, maybe the best you can do is ask "Does not being the originator of a wrong alleviate an individual of wrongdoing?", and in response you would likely get some dancing followed with "we outlawed slavery first", "we did this and that already", all of which from a rhetorical point of view strengthens your position before the public and you would simply ask the question again and then close out the segment with her being silent for a bit, there, you won the rhetorical plane but this doesn't progress reasoning, just further muddies the water for a rhetorical trick to follow in response, down the line.

"if it were ALWAYS so that the start of a supply chain were to blame, we would arrest all gun and knife manufacturers, we would imprison parents instead of their rapist or murderer children and we would ban millions of workers whose manufacturing output could potentially in any way be used to harm others. that would be lunacy."

continue to explain: (if time permits. people might not pay attention to this part).

"almost eveything we do, good and even the bad, has a supply-chain that begins with somethng less-bad or sometimes even good. reparations are for far more than the act of entrapping or selling someone, and include all the acts that happened via the personal and state agency of europeans for hundreds of years after those beaches were far behind. the royals governed over the greater part of the system and by your words were at liberty to act to end it. it is having the power to permit and forbid, while permitting centuries of evil that makes the royals defacto more culpable."
 
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"if it were ALWAYS so that the start of a supply chain were to blame, we would arrest all gun and knife manufacturers, we would imprison parents instead of their rapist or murderer children and we would ban millions of workers whose manufacturing output could potentially in any way be used to harm others. that would be lunacy."

continue to explain: (if time permits. people might not pay attention to this part).

"almost eveything we do, good and even the bad, has a supply-chain that begins with somethng less-bad or sometimes even good. reparations are for far more than the act of entrapping or selling someone, and include all the acts that happened via the personal and state agency of europeans for hundreds of years after those beaches were far behind. the royals governed over the greater part of the system and by your words were at liberty to act to end it. it is having the power to permit and forbid, while permitting centuries of evil that makes the royals defacto more culpable."


Yeah, this is well said, where are you pulling this from? And btw, I actually disagree with portions of it, at least the basis, but this is only because I am a determinist, so it's a matter of approach, the reasoning is solid though. The second half gets into what I wanted to explain, but does so in a significantly concise manner, this is why I need to improve on my writing, it's just, I'm used to dealing with individuals that will pick at anything, so I have to explain every single thing I mention else individuals acting in bad faith will use it against me.
 

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Bruh. It’s crazy and getting louder.
I’m trying to remember which video but I’m hearing it a lot more in the black manosphere as well.
Same. The Black manosphere piggy backs on alot ws rhetoric but I doubt its intentional. Them dudes come off a weirdos to most ppl and they at least attempt to be pro-black. I'm more concerned with cacs being comfortable with saying this bullshyt out loud, without being challenged. As if saying "whites didn't invent slavery" or "white ppl ended slavery" mean anything let alone makes any sense.

We got hyper c00ns like Candace Owens who've made coppin pleas of ws, profitable. I won't link her original vid but is white boy calling her out for making a slave apologist vid.

 

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Yeah, this is well said, where are you pulling this from?

you have me confused with that question. where did you get what you posted from? i assume you made it up yourself.

And btw, I actually disagree with portions of it, at least the basis, but this is only because I am a determinist, so it's a matter of approach, the reasoning is solid though. The second half gets into what I wanted to explain, but does so in a significantly concise manner, this is why I need to improve on my writing, it's just, I'm used to dealing with individuals that will pick at anything, so I have to explain every single thing I mention else individuals acting in bad faith will use it against me.

part B has holes but does that to co-opt her framing to use it against her. like she co-opted lemon's reparations argument to use it against him.

if you get bogged down trying to disprove everything in one post your point can get lost.
 
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you have me confused with that question. where did you get what you posted from? i assume you made it up yourself.



part B has holes but does that to co-opt her framing to use it against her. like she co-opted lemon's reparations argument to use it against him.

if you get bogged down trying to disprove everything in one post your point can get lost.

No, I mean you have it in quotations, I'm wondering if you are pulling it from a book or a speech, I just want the source. :mjlol: But if that was you, I am in agreement with the reasoning, the only disagreement we would have is on the overall approach to agency and that's solely based on me being a determinist.
 

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No, I mean you have it in quotations, I'm wondering if you are pulling it from a book or a speech, I just want the source. :mjlol: But if that was you, I am in agreement with the reasoning, the only disagreement we would have is on the overall approach to agency and that's solely based on me being a determinist.

ok. no book. quotes just in place to make it clear which parts lemon would say.

about agency, yeah it is complicated. thing is as soon as she starts talking about the ins-and-outs of agency the jingo-istic quotable opportunity is lost.
 
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