Donald Sterling just dropped GEMS on white supremacy. Basically said blacks have no community

[Poitier]

Ignore propaganda breh. There's a long history of cacs using "statistics" to shyt on black people.

Its not propaganda, it makes sense.

Whites have the raw numbers (60 % of the population), which means the most buying power, and in capitalism that means favoritism and control of government and corporations. Its also how they co-opt Black institutions and culture since $$$ rules all.

Yes, Whites make up the largest percentage of welfare holders but that is going to be the case with ANYTHING since they are the majority.

I've seen Dearborn, Mi with the Arabs and Chinatown, NYC with the Chinese and the way their elite invest in their underclass is on another level.

 

[jilla82]

Breh, whites receive the majority of welfare benefits. You can splice the numbers all you want to view black people as the face of poverty, but when you look at who makes upthe majority of the poor, and who receives the majority of welfare benefits, it's not black folks.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2...om-the-safety-net/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

I recommended that book I posted for a reason. It charts how the color of poverty changed from whites to blacks and the reasons behind that change in the media.

It has nothing to do with statistics and everything to do with propaganda.

what does "the color of poverty" matter?

I dont understand your point.

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

One time walking in Harlem i seen a black homeless man asking for change, this other black dude walks up to him pulls out a dollar in front of the homeless man.. then pulls the dollar right back in front of his face as he reached to grab it on some "fukk your homeless ass"

I never seen anything more disgusting then that.

I dunno this seemed like the perfect spot to post this story

Why do ya hate each other?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Its not propaganda, it makes sense.

Whites have the raw numbers, which means the most buying power, and in capitalism that means favoritism and control of government and corporations. Its also how they co-opt Black institutions and culture since $$$ rules all.

Yes make up the largest percentage of welfare holders but that is going to be the case with ANYTHING since they are the majority.

I've seen Dearborn, Mi with the Arabs and Chinatown, NYC with the Chinese and the way their elite invest in their underclass is on another level.

Of course it's propaganda. When white's wanted to demonize welfare, the first thing they did was to make the face of it poor black women. It's why during the election 2008 Newt Gingrich would make this quote:

I will go to the NAACP convention and tell the African-American community why they should demand paychecks instead of food stamps.

Plymouth, NH has a black population of .43%. Why in the hell are you bringing up black people on welfare in a city where black folks are essentially non existent

You're ignoring the long, detailed history of white using these statistics to shyt on black people. Back when the color shift started to happen in the late 60's, Joseph Mitchell city manager of Newburgh NY said poor black people from the south was causing the welfare system to get out of control even though the majority of welfare recipients in that time were all white.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

what does "the color of poverty" matter?

I dont understand your point.

The color of poverty refers to the perception of who makes up the poor in this country. It speaks about the propaganda that's been in place in this country ever since we've been hear to paint us in the most fukked up light possible.

 

[Poitier]

Of course it's propaganda. When white's wanted to demonize welfare, the first thing they did was to make the face of it poor black women. It's why during the election 2008 Newt Gingrich would make this quote:



Plymouth, NH has a black population of .43%. Why in the hell are you bringing up black people on welfare in a city where black folks are essentially non existent

You're ignoring the long, detailed history of white using these statistics to shyt on black people. Back when the color shift started to happen in the late 60's, Joseph Mitchell city manager of Newburgh NY said poor black people from the south was causing the welfare system to get out of control even though the majority of welfare recipients in that time were all white.

We are talking about 2 different things.

Of course conservatives blaming Blacks for draining welfare are using propaganda.

But Liberals encouraging welfare WITH NO PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLECLASS are the devils.

We make up 12 % of the population and 40 % of us are on assistance?

And a lot of people want to get off welfare but will lose housing, food, etc the moment they better themselves. Its a trap. Imagine if rich Blacks stepped in and circumvented that with cheap housing, low interest loans and jobs, like Arabs and Asians?

 

[PartyHeart]

1. White people are not a minority group and less of them are in poverty percentage-wise. Why would Whites need White celebrities to help them when a WHITE GOVERNMENT and WHITE CORPORATIONS already favor them?

2. It isn't about "giving back" but "investing." Rich Arabs and Asians provide cheap housing (with no restrictions unlike Section 8). food (with no restrictions unlike food stamps), clothing, jobs (won't loose "welfare" because they make a certain salary) and loans to start businesses for FOB immigrants and in turn, those immigrants climb the socio-economic scale. Show me where rich Blacks do that for poor Blacks?

So then you want to have it both ways. If you can acknowledge a white government and white owned corporations favoring them, why hold them to the same standard as Black people who have none of that protection in this country, which is what Donald Sterling did in the interview.

And your second point: this happens plenty, has happened in my own family on numerous occasions. A cousin will come here, live rent free with my parents for usually around year while they go to school, and my dad also employs them to get them some experiences on their resume. Even after they're on their feet, they still help a little at the beginning. When anyone in our community has a child or even just get married, every family gives to that new family, and on and on and on. Just because it isn't publicized or it doesn't happen where you live doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

[Poitier]

So then you want to have it both ways. If you can acknowledge a white government and white owned corporations favoring them, why hold them to the same standard as Black people who have none of that protection in this country, which is what Donald Sterling did in the interview.

And your second point: this happens plenty, has happened in my own family on numerous occasions. A cousin will come here, live rent free with my parents for usually around year while they go to school, and my dad also employs them to get them some experiences on their resume. Even after they're on their feet, they still help a little at the beginning. When anyone in our community has a child or even just get married, every family gives to that new family, and on and on and on. Just because it isn't publicized or it doesn't happen where you live doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

1. Who is holding Blacks and Whites to the same standard? I am holding Blacks to the standards of Arabs, Latinos and Asians.

2. Nice anecdote but not enough. Imagine if rich Blacks stepped in and circumvented that with cheap housing, low interest loans and jobs, like Arabs and Asians?

 

[jilla82]

The color of poverty refers to the perception of who makes up the poor in this country. It speaks about the propaganda that's been in place in this country ever since we've been hear to paint us in the most fukked up light possible.

So since there are so many poor white people in need...do you think there should be more social programs to help those people?
and what about Affirmative Action? Shouldnt there be something done to help all these poor white people? and since black people are doing fine, why does there need to be Affirmative Action to begin with?

These are the types of questions you open up w/ your argument.
You cant want help for the black community, and then say its unfair when people point out the disparity in these communities....it goes hand in hand.

 

[PartyHeart]

1. Who is holding Blacks and Whites to the same standard? I am holding Blacks to the standards of Arabs, Latinos and Asians.

2. Nice anecdote but not enough. Imagine if rich Blacks stepped in and circumvented that with cheap housing, low interest loans and jobs, like Arabs and Asians?

I think you're arguing something different, because I said in my second post the 'stepping in' could be better organized by Black people. Its just the idea that we don't help period that is patently false. Also, you can compare our experiences to other minorities but do not ignore the sliding social scale in which Blacks are at the bottom that other minorities benefit from at our expense when it comes to group economics. Because even if we pooled properly it would be much harder for Blacks to accomplish what Asians have in terms of ownership. Not saying we couldn't/won't do it, but it will be harder for us

My point is simply to say that we do what we can to help each other when we have it. Its simply a matter of having a better plan to help and executing it. Throwing money to charity is obviously not as good of a look as buying a business and employing your people.

 

[Poitier]

I think you're arguing something different, because I said in my second post the 'stepping in' could be better organized by Black people. Its just the idea that we don't help period that is patently false. Also, you can compare our experiences to other minorities but do not ignore the sliding social scale in which Blacks are at the bottom that other minorities benefit from at our expense when it comes to group economics. Because even if we pooled properly it would be much harder for Blacks to accomplish what Asians have in terms of ownership. Not saying we couldn't/won't do it, but it will be harder for us

My point is simply to say that we do what we can to help each other when we have it. Its simply a matter of having a better plan to help and executing it. Throwing money to charity is obviously not as good of a look as buying a business and employing your people.

We can agree there.

 

[BasketCase]

So we gonna act like the jew didnt deflect himself from the hot seat and instead shift to blaming whats going on in the Black Community to keep the hot topic of him being racist a after thought? He aint saying shyt we havent already heard. It so happen Blacks go oooooh and ahhhhhh when CACs say the same shyt many Blacks been saying for decades

This. He basically used another version of "what about black on black crime" and everyone in this thread fell for it

 

[BasketCase]

Donald Sterling reminds me an awful lot of Richard Nixon, in the way he talks.

If you've ever seen the actual interviews he did with David Frost...or if you saw the movie Frost/Nixon....the way Sterling goes off on tangents to run circles around questions...the way he rationalizes things...it's like watching (a less polished) Richard Nixon.

You say this as if he's skilled. Sterling sounded like a rambling idiot.

 

[Master Teacher]

This. He basically used another version of "what about black on black crime" and everyone in this thread fell for it

I'm telling you

for one Magic Johnson isn't obligated to do anything for anyone, more importantly he as not discriminated against anyone either
so why is this even relevant

Yeah rich blacks could do more for the community, but what does that have to do with Sterling being a racist

the stage was set for the players to just shut down the league and make history, but noooooooo

this is why I need to get into sports, I would already have every player in the league pay a yearly fee that goes into saving and investing in they event that a boycott is necessary

I really believe Lebron would not play if it came down to it, he makes more off endorsements than what the NBA pays him anyway

but most of the players ain't banking like that and need those pay checks,

 

[Remote]

You say this as if he's skilled. Sterling sounded like a rambling idiot.

He sounded like anyone who wasn't prepared to tell the complete truth and didn't have his diversions and PR crap memorized beforehand.

You see the same kind of behavior in the responses of criminals, people who cheat on their spouses, etc..