Donald Trump on nuclear weapons "If we have them, why can't we use them?"

[The Fukin Prophecy]

This can't be reality brehs...

I'm convinced I died and my soul is stuck in some kind of demented alternate CAC reality where an idiotic reality TV con man could become POTUS...

There is no other logical explanation for wtf is going on in this country right now...

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

It's funny how the Drumpf supporters here try to make a case for him being the anti-war candidate.

We all know Hillary is a war hawk. But the notion that Donald Trump would be dovish is comically absurd.

What do you think an erratic narcissistic, authoritarian would-be strongman with a lengthy history of overt vindictiveness against all his enemies real or imagined, and who has the personality profile and all the makings of dictator would do with the most powerful military in history at his disposal?

He's not into nation-building, but he'd probably nuke a few places and walk away from the ash.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Is he wrong though?

If they can't be used, the international community should dismantle them.

What purpose do they serve if they're off the table except to increase the likelihood of a terrible accident?

 

[King Kreole]

It's funny how the Drumpf supporters here try to make a case for him being the anti-war candidate.

We all know Hillary is a war hawk. But the notion that Donald Trump would be dovish is comically absurd.

What do you think an erratic narcissistic, authoritarian would-be strongman with a lengthy history of overt vindictiveness against all his enemies real or imagined, and who has the personality profile and all the makings of dictator would do with the most powerful military in history at his disposal?

He's not into nation-building, but he'd probably nuke a few places and walk away from the ash.

Why do people think the President operates like a King? The United States is not an authoritarian country, so if Trump threw a hissy fit and said nuke China, the Joint Chiefs aren't just going to go "OK Mr. President, whatever you say." There are checks and balances for a reason. There will be an impeachment before Trump is able to do any of the apocalyptic shyt his detractors constantly harp about. Hillary is the more hawkish candidate because she has intricate knowledge of the American war machine. She's actually been at its helm before and put it into action. It's far more likely that a No-Fly Zone over Syria will be enacted at her behest than a nuclear bomb will be dropped at Trump's behest because some foreign leader insulted him. Remember, the Constitution gives Congress war powers. Yes, recent history has shown the office of the Presidency encroaching on those powers and muddling the definition of war, but the President's ability to take unilateral military action is not unlimited in theory or practice.

 

[Big Blue]

Is he wrong though?

If they can't be used, the international community should dismantle them.

What purpose do they serve if they're off the table except to increase the likelihood of a terrible accident?

They are deterrents. A sane CIC wouldn't fire a nuke at another sovereign state with nukes. It would start a nuclear holocaust. It's a pretty basic and well known geopolitical theory. Do some research.

 

[88m3]

With the threat that Trump poses to society I can't respect you if you don't vote for Hillary.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Is he wrong though?

If they can't be used, the international community should dismantle them.

What purpose do they serve if they're off the table except to increase the likelihood of a terrible accident?

Yes he is wrong.

The purpose of nukes is to prevent World War 3, which would undoubtedly result in MASSIVE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE and the destruction of civilization as we know it. I would recommend reading up on WW2 (my "favorite" war) in order to truly grasp the concept of every major sovereign state on the planet being at war with each other and the loss of life that it entailed as well as the strain it put on the society of every country involved. Families were eradicated. Entire cities erased. Cultures irrevocably changed forever. No one wants that again. NO ONE.

And the reason why we don't use nukes is also to prevent Final War because if the US launched nukes against another sovereign nuclear state, they would launch nukes back at us, and then our allies would launch nukes at them and then their allies would launch nukes against our allies and within a few hours all human life would be wiped off of this planet and maybe all life period.

 

[Master Teacher]

Yes he is wrong.

The purpose of nukes is to prevent World War 3, which would undoubtedly result in MASSIVE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE and the destruction of civilization as we know it. I would recommend reading up on WW2 (my "favorite" war) in order to truly grasp the concept of every major sovereign state on the planet being at war with each other and the loss of life that it entailed as well as the strain it put on the society of every country involved. Families were eradicated. Entire cities erased. Cultures irrevocably changed forever. No one wants that again. NO ONE.

And the reason why we don't use nukes is also to prevent Final War because if the US launched nukes against another sovereign nuclear state, they would launch nukes back at us, and then our allies would launch nukes at them and then their allies would launch nukes against our allies and within a few hours all human life would be wiped off of this planet and maybe all life period.

That's not the point, as long we have nukes its only a matter of time before we actually use them

if using them was never an option they wouldn't exists, we have them, because using them is an option

this is what happens when normal rationale thinking men are too p*ssy to slaughter irrational maniacs who have power

 

[Starman]

That's not the point, as long we have nukes its only a matter of time before we actually use them

if using them was never an option they wouldn't exists, we have them, because using them is an option

this is what happens when normal rationale thinking men are too p*ssy to slaughter irrational maniacs who have power

The bold is true, but the thread title suggests (maybe wrongly, maybe not- didn't watch the video. Can only take so much Trump at a time) that Trump favors using them because we have them. That's a problem if it's true.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

That's not the point, as long we have nukes its only a matter of time before we actually use them

if using them was never an option they wouldn't exists, we have them, because using them is an option

this is what happens when normal rationale thinking men are too p*ssy to slaughter irrational maniacs who have power

Nuclear Weapons are NOT an option. Period.

We cannot use them against Nuclear armed sovereign states, and we can't use them against non Nuclear states because the International Community would not stand for it.

 

[Starman]

Nuclear Weapons are NOT an option. Period.

We cannot use them against Nuclear armed sovereign states, and we can't use them against non Nuclear states because the International Community would not stand for it.

They are an option. If we're nuked first, for instance.

 

[JahFocus CS]

They are deterrents. A sane CIC wouldn't fire a nuke at another sovereign state with nukes. It would start a nuclear holocaust. It's a pretty basic and well known geopolitical theory. Do some research.

I'm well aware of the MAD theory and the rational state actor theories, you clown. My point is that they should still be dismantled if your only justification for them is "well if everyone (or enough states) has/have them, no one will use them"

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm well aware of the MAD theory and the rational state actor theories, you clown. My point is that they should still be dismantled if your only justification for them is "well if everyone (or enough states) has/have them, no one will use them"

You think you understand this shyt, but you don't.

Saying what SHOULD happen, doesn't indicate what will happen.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

They are an option. If we're nuked first, for instance.

No sovereign nuclear armed state would attempt a Nuclear attack on the United States. Ever.

Even if NK was considering nuking Japan or SK, China would step in and back them down.

 

[Master Teacher]

Nuclear Weapons are NOT an option. Period.

We cannot use them against Nuclear armed sovereign states, and we can't use them against non Nuclear states because the International Community would not stand for it.

LMAO, we has weapons they can't use you.

If it comes time when they want to use them they will be used, you are extremely naive if you believe others.

Nuclear deployment is an option no wonder how you try to spin it