Donald Trump only lost the election by 43,000 votes.
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The issue though is the Dems can't win state legislatures in states like TX, FL, GA, AZ and GOP has a hold on gerrymandering on both state and congressional level. WI, MI are also terrible gerrymandered after the disaster of 2010. And 2020 being another census year was a disaster on that front.
We may not see Dems win the House until the 2030s after 2022 when they lose it.
Plus... the US Senate is a huge problem. Lost 9 seats in 2014, still haven't even recovered half of those seats. McConnell has the formula for always winning.
Senate is an enormous problem. Electoral college is one thing cause it's affected by population, but Senate is just straight states and there are simply more red states than blue states. The only thing is to chip away and get those Republicans out of states like Wisconsin and Maine, and then make better plays for Texas, Florida, Georgia, etc. in the future.
The gerrymandering shyt is hard. I'm not as negative as you regarding Dem chances, but there needs to be a very, very, very strong push to end gerrymandering at every level.
Only way to do it easily is to re-pass HR1 in the House... but you need 60 votes in the Senate and even if you have Warnock/Ossoff, thats only 50+1
That bill ends gerrymandering.
unless the gerrymandering is as bad as it was in 2010 i dont think dems winning the house in a presidential year (as long as they win the white house) will be that much of a problem. this election showed they can still hold the house in a gerrymandered congress. only reason they didnt in 2012 was extremely egregious gerrymandering and i dont think PA MI WI and even LA will be as bad because they have dem governors. Arizona also has an independent commission so if they have a republican legislature or not, doesnt matter.
senate on the other hand is a huge problem.
It won't be as bad as 2010 in the midwest cause all the governors are Dems and Ohio itself has like only 4 year maps but GOP controls that state so much more now though
Illinois could eliminate 2-3 GOP districts themselves..
The sunbelt is the real concern
shyt if you guys think the map is bad now just imagine what the 80s must have been like.
that “blue wall” you hear about? from 68 to 88 republicans had a similar thing...only they didnt call it a red wall yet cause red and blue states werent around as ideas yet. fukkin california, the backbone of democrats in the electoral college, voted for democrats a single time between 1952 and 1992
and that was when LBJ crushed the buildings
that “blue wall” you hear about? from 68 to 88 republicans had a similar thing...only they didnt call it a red wall yet cause red and blue states werent around as ideas yet. fukkin california, the backbone of democrats in the electoral college, voted for democrats a single time between 1952 and 1992
and that was when LBJ crushed the buildings
the states that are gonna be the biggest problems are florida, ohio, NC, Georgia and Texas. how many existing democratic or competitive seats do you think they can get rid of in those states?
Trump also would have needed to win PA and MI but they are talking about a tie, not an outright win.
Basically we need to redraw the districts while Biden is in office OR up the population/representation in those battleground states. Any brehs want to move and build companies/families in those states?
FL, OH, GA, and TX are gonna be bad. Dems gonna lose 6 seats right off the bat due to gerrymandering
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@FAH1223 dems should do the same shyt everywhere they can. SCOTUS has ruled that they arent going to find political gerrymanders unconstitutional. i think they can in illinois too right? also we need to put that on the ballot in states like florida and texas - like the one that passed in virginia.
Illinois, NY, Maryland can eliminate GOP districts
And yeah ballot initiative passed in Michigan and Virginia
