Don't move to Texas

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That's because everything here is private, right down to the electrical grids...which is why it's a libertarian's dream.
It stuns me how little the public utilities is and how much we pay for it. We have to pay for trash pick up, recycling, etc. And they are inconsistent in picking up things. In DC and Maryland, it was paid for in taxes—and cheaper—and they were on time.
 

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1. Google maps

2. Options

3. Avoid tolls

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A lot of the state, you can’t get around without taking tolls.

I live in Austin and don’t take tolls. To go from northern Austin to Southern Austin where I live, a 15 minute drive at night could take 45 minutes.

This could all be alleviated If we had a good public transit system but why do we need that when we can make insterstate 35 wider. :why:
Google maps will tell you, “hey, we found a faster route,” which is usually a toll road. :dead:
 

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Low taxes in Texas is a myth. They use the zero income tax as a pull but they have to make up that shyt elsewhere (property taxes, tolls, fees, etc.). It's definitely nice for big earners, but the median taxpayer ends up paying more than they would in most other states and they get shytty-ass services on top of that, like some of the worst health care access in the county.



Taxes by State​


Overall Rank
(1=Lowest)
StateEffective Total State & Local Tax Rates on Median U.S. Household*Annual State & Local Taxes on Median U.S. Household*% Difference Between State & U.S. Avg.**Annual State & Local Taxes on Median State Household***Adjusted Overall Rank (based on Cost of Living Index)
1Alaska6.05%$4,204-43.82%$4,8704
2Delaware6.34%$4,405-41.14%$4,7071
3Montana7.12%$4,948-33.88%$4,7732
4Nevada7.79%$5,414-27.64%$5,63610
5Wyoming8.06%$5,604-25.10%$5,5119
6Florida8.21%$5,706-23.74%$5,3556
7Utah8.23%$5,719-23.57%$6,8878
8Idaho8.29%$5,765-22.96%$5,5455
9Colorado8.53%$5,930-20.75%$7,38313
10Tennessee8.58%$5,965-20.29%$4,9643
11Oregon8.91%$6,192-17.25%$7,32922
12California8.97%$6,238-16.64%$9,61232
13South Carolina9.07%$6,304-15.75%$5,28811
14Alabama9.12%$6,341-15.26%$4,9247
15District of Columbia9.13%$6,343-15.23%$10,35746
16Arizona9.39%$6,529-12.75%$6,45214
17West Virginia9.72%$6,758-9.69%$4,78012
18New Hampshire9.90%$6,879-8.06%$8,06131
19North Dakota10.16%$7,064-5.60%$6,65225
20North Carolina10.51%$7,307-2.35%$6,30216
21Georgia10.55%$7,335-1.98%$6,69215
22New Mexico10.59%$7,361-1.63%$5,69821
23Virginia10.69%$7,433-0.66%$8,57824
24Hawaii10.70%$7,440-0.57%$10,45650
25Louisiana10.75%$7,469-0.18%$5,71019
26Massachusetts10.86%$7,5510.92%$10,87043
27South Dakota11.01%$7,6562.31%$6,59726
28Rhode Island11.24%$7,8164.45%$8,84244
29Arkansas11.30%$7,8524.93%$5,71218
30Missouri11.30%$7,8554.97%$6,57817
31Minnesota11.31%$7,8595.03%$8,51130
32Oklahoma11.51%$8,0026.94%$6,15423
33Maryland11.52%$8,0066.99%$10,72945
34Maine11.62%$8,0757.91%$7,28939
35Indiana11.76%$8,1739.23%$6,85128
36Vermont11.77%$8,1839.36%$8,06042
37Mississippi11.93%$8,29010.79%$5,83420
38Washington11.97%$8,32311.22%$10,91540
39Michigan12.15%$8,44912.91%$6,96527
40Kentucky12.50%$8,68716.09%$6,69829
41Texas12.73%$8,84618.21%$8,00634
42Wisconsin12.95%$9,00420.32%$8,08935
43New Jersey12.98%$9,02320.58%$12,65248
44Nebraska13.15%$9,14222.17%$7,78637
45Ohio13.20%$9,17822.66%$7,30633
46Iowa13.31%$9,24823.60%$7,64536
47Kansas13.57%$9,43326.06%$7,91938
48Pennsylvania13.92%$9,67529.30%$8,82041
49New York14.23%$9,89432.22%$12,04749
50Connecticut14.80%$10,28737.47%$12,12051
51Illinois15.05%$10,46339.83%$9,98747
what an incredible misrepresentation of information. cook tho :wow:
 

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People are leaving Texas over rising costs, partisan politics, and a sense of disenchantment​

Alcynna Lloyd
Nov 26, 2023, 7:09 AM ET
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The Texas state capitol in Austin. Getty Images/ Jon Hicks
  • Texas experienced a surge in popularity during the pandemic that drove home prices up 30%, data suggests.
  • The political freedom some sought in the state has encouraged others to leave.
  • Have you left or do you plan to leave Texas? Business Insider wants to hear from you.


While some homebuyers seek the American dream in Texas, many are leaving the state to find it elsewhere.

"Lifelong Texan here. I am definitely preparing an exit strategy," one anonymous user posted on a Reddit thread about leaving Texas. "From the heat to the stripping away of human rights, I'm just done."

Another poster struck a similar chord. "I've been in Texas most of my life, and my husband and I were always planning on retiring here (in about 5 years from now)," they wrote. "But between this intense heat, crazy politics, and cost of living, we've decided to leave for good and head to Knoxville."

While people have been moving into the Lone Star state to take advantage of its relatively affordable real-estate market, political atmosphere, and work opportunities, some of those same qualities are driving others out. More than 494,000 people left Texas between 2021 and 2022 (though the state gained a net population of 174,261). It's a trend that could intensify as housing costs surge and the state's political landscape becomes more polarized.

Housing costs have some looking for affordability elsewhere​

Texas experienced a surge in popularity during the pandemic that pushed home prices up 30% from 2019, data from Realtor.com indicated. At the same, residents are also grappling with property taxes that are among the highest in the country.

Californians seeking more affordable homes made the Golden-to-Lone-Star-state moving route the most popular in the country from 2021 to 2022, with almost 108,000 people making the move. But there's one big downside.

"The property-tax percentage rate is higher," Marie Bailey, a Realtor who moved from El Segundo, California, to Prosper, Texas, in 2017, previously told Business Insider. "Every time a prospective client calls me, it's one of the first things I talk about."

Marie Bailey stands with her family in front of her home in Prosper, Texas.
Marie Bailey and her family moved to Prosper, Texas in 2017, where she is now a realtor helping other Californians make the move to The Lone Star State. Courtesy of Marie Bailey
As Texas starts to lose its edge as an inexpensive and affordable housing choice, many locals are shifting their focus to the Midwest.

For Texans, "the Midwest has emerged as popular recently because it is just by and large the most affordable region," Hannah Jones, Realtor.com's economic-research analyst, told BI in October. "We're seeing this trend of buyers looking for affordability really explode."

The political freedom many moved to the state for is driving others away​

For many Americans, politics are just as important as housing affordability when choosing a place to live.

A 2022 survey by the mortgage marketplace LendingTree involving 1,545 participants found that 39% of respondents said they'd relocated or might consider moving to a different state if their political views didn't align with the majority.

Jackie Burse, a self-identified Conservative, is one of the many Californians who have sought out Texas for its political environment. Burse told BI in September that it played a crucial role in her decision to relocate to Texas in 2021.


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Jackie Burse grabbing a drink. Courtesy of Jackie Burse
In Texas, Burse said, there was "room for people to believe what they want without being shamed," unlike in California.

Contrary to Burse, Bob McCranie, a Dallas-based real-estate broker who created a real-estate service that helps LGBTQ+ people in Texas sell their homes and get connected with agents in different parts of the country and abroad, told KXAN News in July that the state's lack of inclusivity had created an unwelcoming environment.

"What we all want as human beings is to feel a level of safety, and if your state is making you feel unsafe, there's no reason to stay," McCranie said. "I can't believe somebody could look at, let's say, California or New York versus Texas and Florida and say that LGBTQ people feel more welcome in Florida and Texas."

Texas hasn't lived up to its promises for some​

Some recent transplants have also grown disenchanted with the state.

In Austin, some tech workers who flocked to the city during the pandemic just can't seem to get out fast enough.

Nick Thomas, 30, moved to Austin from downtown Los Angeles in January 2021 and told BI in August he hoped to move back to California soon. He said Austin was a "watered-down" version of places he'd previously lived, such as Los Angeles and San Francisco.

"People say it's a tech scene just because that's what they were told, but when you get to it, there's no evidence for it," Thomas said. "I think it was just oversold."

Jules Rogers, a reporter who relocated from Portland, Oregon, to Houston in 2018 for a position at a local newspaper, left Texas less than two years after moving to the city.

a couple stands in front of a bull at a rodeo


Jules Rogers, left, in Texas. Courtesy of Jules Rogers
Though she was earning a 20% higher income and living in a more spacious apartment, she said that her quality of life hadn't improved.

"I tried to tell myself I just needed to give it a chance, settle in, and get used to Houston, but I missed the trees, the air, the mountains, the ocean, the vibes, and the culture of the Pacific Northwest," Rogers previously wrote for BI.

She has since returned to Portland, where she said she felt "much happier now back at home."

Are you a Texan who has recently left or has plans to leave the state? We want to hear from you. Email the reporter, Alcynna Lloyd, at alloyd@businessinsider.com to share your story.
 

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Are you a resident? What are you basing this on?

Property taxes alone destroys that tax free state myth. Living in Mass for a few years and moving to Austin to see property values as high Boston was fukking shocking for me.

I’m moving to WA next year, my family heading back to LA, I don’t see myself moving back to Texas after experiencing a city with real public transit and public infrastructure/social systems.
 

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I know a guy who works for the government in California but he was moving to Texas to work remotely. He's not a friend so I don't really talk to him like that, we had a conversation two years ago so I'm not sure whether he suceeded or not. He was friendly enough in person but we disagreed on politics a ton, and him wanting to move to Texas was entirely based on him hating "liberal California".

Looking at this thread, I love the fact that he's paying California income taxes but paying Texas property taxes, tolls, and fees while getting Texas services. :russ:

Him getting his six-figure paychecks from Californian tax dollars though. :francis:
 

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This past summer broke me. Ive never felt a summer in the U.S. be this hot and miserable for so long in my lifetime. It was September and still scorching hot. Between that, the power grid failing 2 years ago, Abbots insistence on competing with DeSantis on who can make the worst policies, and the evangelical grip on politics, i do not want to be here anymore.

Id like to move to a state like Minnesota. Minneapolis actually invests in its citizens/infrastructure from what i understand, and voters vote a hell of a lot more progressively than Texas.
 
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