Dr. Dre is the greatest hip hop producer of all time. Hands down. Nothing overrated about him
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Awesome Wells
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Dre been the GOAT for 30+ years.
I just posted this in the other thread. Dude got beats from over 30 years ago that would kill sh*t right now.
People can have favorites and that's cool. But objectively, ain't nobody done what Dre's done behind the boards. EVER!
Top 3 for me is still Dre, Tip & Premier.
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Dre ain’t even my favorite producer, but I can’t deny the run and impact he’s had on hip hop
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Dre ain’t even my favorite producer, but I can’t deny the run and impact he’s had on hip hop
Exactly.
Q-Tip is my favorite. But I can't front on Dre. He's done this at a level most producers will never see.
Other than strictly music he had a BIG hand in supporting some of the biggest rappers in history Snoop Em 50 Game if you add Nate, Cube and PAC and the fact that he had fantastic mic presence himself
No case can be made for anybody else, league of his own as far as im concerned
*From what is known, kind of a scum bag on a personal level, it is what it is...
No case can be made for anybody else, league of his own as far as im concerned
*From what is known, kind of a scum bag on a personal level, it is what it is...
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Exactly; Dre’s work for Ruthless alone puts him in another stratosphere.
Then you factor in his work on The Chronic and Doggystyle. This era is an era any producer wishes they had in terms of work and impact. Those 2 albums alone were a damn domino effect on hip hop
That’s like a lifetime achievement in producing in hip hop when things change and get old so quick
Then after all of that, he emerges once again in 99 with 2001
Yeah 2001 is an exception to the rule. I'm not going to go into a lot of detail over this but like I said I am a huge fan of Dre. But his 'productions' are not much more than mixing at this point.
Let's hear the case for DJ Quik
What time period are you refering to ? After 2005 ? Or you think he ALWAYS was more of an engineer than a beat maker
Cause i couldnt name a top 10 beat of their own catalog from RZA or Preem after the same year
You can discuss less creative than others, not a personal favorite etc but his resume is unfukcwithable...
Everytime i hear that begining of California Love i only see goats for a couple seconds
Oh after 2005 absolutely. Like I said I'm not disputing his early work, but the past 20 years or so is questionable. Dre is phenomenal in his early years. Anyone who disputes that has no knowledge of music. His legacy can't be tarnished by later 'issues' and practices, he's still very good at what he does but the input isn't what it was. Not disputing his craft, talent or anything like that.
These days it's 99% his camp doing the work and Dre putting the final touches, and working his magic on it but there is a very, very toxic practice at work where his camp are stealing other peoples work, then Dre works on it. Dre potentially not at fault for that, I'm not going to say any more on it.
Tip is right up there if we’re talking across the board and how his influence even went into other genres, for example Neo Soul.
More so in recent years, His LL album was incredible. Pete Rock with Common, also incredible, then Dre's Missionary with Snoop was miles behind both of those albums.
It's a shame his WCRC work is often disregarded. I love that era too. I find it quite sad that it's regarded as camp or homosexual and not 'gangsta' by so many uneducated posters. Hip hop wasn't and ISN'T always gangsta, he was a huge part of pioneering the 80's West Coast sound along with so. so many others.
Hes a "victim" of his own success in a way, so far removed from the real world and into corporate $$$ that even some of the beats sound like convoluted excel charts
Meanwhile Tip or Pete or Preemo maintained more of an artistic hip hop head aesthetic to what they do.
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His fall off was weird though
Like usually you could attribute it to someone who stopped using samples, which is completely understandable.
But then he did 2001 which was mainly not samples and was absolute fukking fire.
I think once it came to stop using samples, he got rid of the people around him making it still sound fire, and he could never be the same producer as much as he wanted to.
Like yeah i get it, he will layer 2000 sounds on top of each other and make it sound clear but the shyt is wack and has no soul.
He kinda went the same route rza went
Like usually you could attribute it to someone who stopped using samples, which is completely understandable.
But then he did 2001 which was mainly not samples and was absolute fukking fire.
I think once it came to stop using samples, he got rid of the people around him making it still sound fire, and he could never be the same producer as much as he wanted to.
Like yeah i get it, he will layer 2000 sounds on top of each other and make it sound clear but the shyt is wack and has no soul.
He kinda went the same route rza went
