Dr. Umar offered 50K to show where the donation $ went

[Marlostanfield.]

And you got lil uzi vert in your avatar who hasn't done squat for the black community

Only thing one can do for the black community is give it mental, physical and soulful healing than the black community shall become better.

Without self love the black community will never get better.

 

[Blackout]

How has P.O.P.A. Umar empowered anybody?

And when did it become the rule that we are only allowed to buy from brands that empower us? You mean to tell me EVERYTHING you buy is from an empowering brand? You don't buy from any white brands or retailers?

There is more than buying. There is promotion and advertising that many do for those companies for free.

Dudes be promoting, making songs and advertising songs about Gucci and Versace aka white companies for free

Many people have to pay for that kind of advertising of their product

How about y'all approach those products lile you do Umar

 

[Zero]

If the school came to be y'all still find reasons to hate, why ? Because y'all don't really want to be liberated.

Y'all hide behind these shticks to show y'all dont want liberation. Finding anything to critique so in y'all minds can say he's not right to prevent liberation.

Do you think a person who still enslaved mentally wants freedom ?and Carter G Woodson said it best when he said a person will create a back door even if there isnt one.

My fellow blacks make Blacks who do try to help jump through hoops prove this and that why because then said person can never go about fixing the reality of these said problems in the community

Bruh...it's over

 

[Marlostanfield.]

Bruh...it's over

That wasn't in reference to Umar but the collective unconscious some blacks share.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

There is more than buying. There is promotion and advertising that many do for those companies for free.

Dudes be promoting, making songs and advertising songs about Gucci and Versace aka white companies for free

Many people have to pay for that kind of advertising of their product

How about y'all approach those products lile you do Umar

First of all not everybody who thinks Umar is full of shyt wears Gucci and drives a Benz. Can you name people in here specifically who do that? Who are these "dudes" you keep referring to?

And why the fukk would I support Umar if I think he's full of shyt? Are black people obligated to support EVERYTHING other black people do regardless of how we feel about it?

 

[Blackout]

First of all not everybody who thinks Umar is full of shyt wears Gucci and drives a Benz. Can you name people in here specifically who do that? Who are these "dudes" you keep referring to?

And why the fukk would I support Umar if I think he's full of shyt? Are black people obligated to support EVERYTHING other black people do regardless of how we feel about it?

If it dont apply then let it fly then. You coming at me makes it look like you ar guilty of promoting Gucci and Versace and give them free advertising.

As I said before I'm not supporting Umar. I am asking that people here critique everything as much as they do black people like Umar and Tariq so they can be consistent cuz I see more effort to critique men like Umar and Tariq than white men and their companies

That's the point people are missing.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

If it dont apply then let it fly then. You coming at me makes it look like you ar guilty of promoting Gucci and Versace and give them free advertising.

As I said before I'm not supporting Umar. I am asking that people here critique everything as much as they do black people like Umar and Tariq so they can be consistent cuz I see more effort to critique men like Umar and Tariq than white men and their companies

That's the point people are missing.

Why would I let it fly? You assumed that everyone who has issues with Umar and Tariq doesn't have any criticisms for "white" companies. That included me. So of course I'm going to take issue with it.

Companies like Gucci and the like are old AF and much of what can be said about them has been said. This Umar and Tariq shyt is new and more relevant so of course we will talk about it more. Plus again Gucci and the like are what they are. They don't pretend to be anything else. Umar is a fraud. You are trying to make two things that aren't the same and bringing up some shyt that's completely irrelevant to take the heat off of a dude you supposedly don't support

 

[Blackout]

Why would I let it fly? You assumed that everyone who has issues with Umar and Tariq doesn't have any criticisms for "white" companies. That included me. So of course I'm going to take issue with it.

Companies like Gucci and the like are old AF and much of what can be said about them has been said. This Umar and Tariq shyt is new and more relevant so of course we will talk about it more. Plus again Gucci and the like are what they are. They don't pretend to be anything else. Umar is a fraud. You are trying to make two things that aren't the same and bringing up some shyt that's completely irrelevant to take the heat off of a dude you supposedly don't support

You are putting words in my mouth.

I am referring to those who go hard on those men yet go soft on white men. It doesn't matter how old those white men and companies are

If it don't apply then let it fly.

Unless you guilty which explains why you are coming at me.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

You are putting words in my mouth.

I am referring to those who go hard on those men yet go soft on white men. It doesn't matter how old those white men and companies are

If it don't apply then let it fly.

Unless you guilty which explains why you are coming at me.

Those companies promise a product and deliver said product. if they started a fundraising campaign, took your money, and never delivered, they would get the same amount scrutiny. I don't ask where Gucci's money goes because it's a for profit business. They don't say we're selling $700 shirts to build a fashion school for poor kids.

We can't hold people to lesser standards because they're are own. If you have been asking for money to open a school, and no one has seen a lesson plan let alone a building plan or budget, we have the right to question. Especially since the people who own the property he was said to want to buy never heard of or from him.

Fake fundraisers and scams get called out every single day. That "what about Nike, what about the white man you buy your clothes from" is all a smoke screen to absolve responsibility.

 

[Blackout]

Those companies promise a product and deliver said product. if they started a fundraising campaign, took your money, and never delivered, they would get the same amount scrutiny. I don't ask where Gucci's money goes because it's a for profit business. They don't say we're selling $700 shirts to build a fashion school for poor kids.

We can't hold people to lesser standards because they're are own. If you have been asking for money to open a school, and no one has seen a lesson plan let alone a building plan or budget, we have the right to question. Especially since the people who own the property he was said to want to buy never heard of or from him.

Fake fundraisers and scams get called out every single day. That "what about Nike, what about the white man you buy your clothes from" is all a smoke screen to absolve responsibility.

You missed my point

Or y'all just don't read my posts and just skim it yet still try to come at me.

 

[Won Won]

Compare donations to a school that's probably not real to buying a Gucci belt, brehs

 

[Easy-E]

Brehs

I see Yall admire dude

But stop making up scenrios and point us to where he explains the whereabouts of the money

 

[EndDomination]

If the school came to be y'all still find reasons to hate, why ? Because y'all don't really want to be liberated.

Y'all hide behind these shticks to show y'all dont want liberation. Finding anything to critique so in y'all minds can say he's not right to prevent liberation.

Do you think a person who still enslaved mentally wants freedom ?and Carter G Woodson said it best when he said a person will create a back door even if there isnt one.

My fellow blacks make Blacks who do try to help jump through hoops prove this and that why because then said person can never go about fixing the reality of these said problems in the community

You're arguing a point that cannot be proven. There is no school, how do you know there would be criticism of a school that doesn't exist?
And I don't think him creating another private school was going to "liberate" 'anyone, nor does criticising his formulation of a school denote a dislike of "liberation."
The second part of what you said means absolute nothing, I don't understand the grandstanding and rather desperate defense. Are you being on the "Prince of Pan-Arikanism" payroll?

There is more than buying. There is promotion and advertising that many do for those companies for free.

Dudes be promoting, making songs and advertising songs about Gucci and Versace aka white companies for free

Many people have to pay for that kind of advertising of their product

How about y'all approach those products lile you do Umar

Give it up. Gucci, Versace, Louis Vuitton, etc. all sell a product, a tangible product, as well as the social capital associated with that product.
The difference between the products they sell, and the "product" Umar sells is that one exists and one doesn't.
Do you know what happens if I buy something from Gucci? Two-days later a package appears on my door with the product inside.
You know what happens when you donate money toward Umar's school? Five years later you won't hear a word about the school, and you don't even have a receipt showing you donated to it. You're arguing a moot, and rather stupid point.

 

[Blackout]

Give it up. Gucci, Versace, Louis Vuitton, etc. all sell a product, a tangible product, as well as the social capital associated with that product.
The difference between the products they sell, and the "product" Umar sells is that one exists and one doesn't.
Do you know what happens if I buy something from Gucci? Two-days later a package appears on my door with the product inside.
You know what happens when you donate money toward Umar's school? Five years later you won't hear a word about the school, and you don't even have a receipt showing you donated to it. You're arguing a moot, and rather stupid point.

You are not even talking about my point lol

It's like y'all just skim my posts but don't read it

 

[Unknown Poster]

As soon as he went from clearance sale suits to polo shirts and Jordan's I knew what was up

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