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The only year I felt like someone was as big or bigger than him was 2017 when Kendrick crushed the building. Outside of that he's been the dominant figure in mainstream rap since 2011. I wouldn't have faulted anyone for wondering if that first album, which many people thought was disappointing, was a fluke. You could tell some big producers were hoping it would be, without naming names. But him coming back with Take Care in 2011 was when it was clear ok, this guy isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I don't really see anyone on the horizon who can surpass him. Assuming we aren't counting Bad Bunny. The two guys I thought could do it are dead. Ju1ce World and XXX were on their way to arena shows and massive success. Honestly I think their deaths altered hip hop in a way people don't talk about or acknowledge.
Juice wrld
XXXtentacion
Pop Smoke

Them three nikkas were supposed to be the defining superstar rappers of the 2020s decade. Imagine if Drake Kendrick and Jcole or Future would all be killed in 2013. Rap game would remain stagnant and stale. Every musical genre needs progress, creativity and innovation to thrive and remain interesting and revelant on a social and cultural level.
 
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Drake should be the blueprint for rappers staying relevant. Change your style, use writers.

To throw a wrinkle in there Drake has had massive r&b/dance songs where rap was a footnote.
 
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Drake should be the blueprint for rappers staying relevant. Change your style, use writers.

To throw a wrinkle in there Drake has had massive r&b/dance songs where rap was a footnote.

Drake isn’t a blueprint for anybody but himself. Do you think others have tried your suggestion? He’s uniquely positioned to continue as he has been
 

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Up the block from Carson Daly huh? Nothing wrong with that. Once the novelty wore off he wasn’t heard around my way. He didn’t exist. Oh well
you living in a bubble doesn't mean it stopped existing

there's a big difference in your friends not listening to him and acting like he doesnt exist in a discussion about rap, hes clearly one of if not the biggest rappers worldwide
 

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Drake isn’t a blueprint for anybody but himself. Do you think others have tried your suggestion? He’s uniquely positioned to continue as he has been
Fair point

I do think you comparing him to other rappers is a stretch. It’s apples to oranges

He’s had massive songs that are not rap. These songs where he only came in & laid vocals. PND/Majid & whoever wrote hotline bling deserve a lot of credit.

We can go down a list of non rap songs that have held his reign up

Edit: This coming from someone who has rocked with Drake heavy.
 
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you living in a bubble doesn't mean it stopped existing

there's a big difference in your friends not listening to him and acting like he doesnt exist in a discussion about rap, hes clearly one of if not the biggest rappers worldwide

The bubble is yours friend if you think my experience is unique. nikkax en masse were not running around listening to “Kim” & “My Band” By your logic The Beatles had some sort of hold on the black
community lol
 

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Drake should be the blueprint for rappers staying relevant. Change your style, use writers.

To throw a wrinkle in there Drake has had massive r&b/dance songs where rap was a footnote.
Everyone tries to change their style and everyone uses writers
 

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The bubble is yours friend if you think my experience is unique. nikkax en masse were not running around listening to “Kim” & “My Band” By your logic The Beatles had some sort of hold on the black
community lol
I know black people who love the Beatles

and tons of black people who love Eminem

naming spoken word pieces and some old semi hit single he did with his group, desperately trying to hold on to your delusional point :unimpressed:
 

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Drake has the numbers because he has the popularity from the start, I don't think that's the sole identifier of when he became the top rapper. For me it's when the artistry started matching the hype consistently...

No one's going to outsell Drake because they didn't have The Stimulus Drake got coming in, and they dont have the crossover/non-black appeal that he has...

That being said I do think he took the crown beginning in 2015. Again I'm not really up on 2020s hip hop like that so I don't know what the gap from him to everyone else is now. But he took the title in 2015...

When Kendrick had that Drake feature on Good Kid Maad City, there was no consensus in real time that Drake was the more popping rapper. That was 2012, in fact that's where the "Kendrick is better" shyt started, not the song, the album...

And I consider Take Care a classic just to be clear, but there's some revisionist history going on in this thread...

Drake had the name and The Machine and all the hype but he hadn't separated from his peers. Since 2012 Kendrick has always been seen as artistically as dope or better than Drake by half The Culture it took Drake dropping more often to gain separation. I'd say Kendrick was always challenging Drake but when he disappeared after Damn, he effectively ceded the throne to Drake...

That's the problem with saying Drake has just dominated since Take Care. Take Care itself didnt distinguish him from his peers and thats with it being a fire album, and neither did his next drop (Nothing Was The Same). Credit to him that he put in the work, improved artistically and ramped up his consistency, but there were several names right along with him for a number of years, who eliminated themselves with either wack music, inconsistency, or just stopped working (Kendrick)...

Drake wasn't just dominating the competition, Future and Dot were always right there...

Juice Wrld and X were never going to challenge Drake...

The Hov stray lol...

To go back to OP real quick, Hov was the biggest rapper from post Big/Pac thru 50, and you could argue longer. 1998-2003 though, is a solid 5-year run, most dudes don't have 5 years at the top. 50 really only had 2003-05 and there was this gray area for a year or two until Wayne took it, and Wayne had it from at least 2007 thru 2011...

OP made it a point to compare to Hov, Drake's run at the top has been longer but has the art been as strong? Drake is playing in a time of increased popularity in hip hop in general, its not the same sport Jay-Z was in...

During Drake's height Jay has still showcased his legend with two classics, if dudes are dating Drake's reign to '11. It'll be interesting to see how Drake ages within The Culture once he's no longer #1. Hov hasn't been the biggest rapper in 20 years and yet somehow he's still the biggest rapper every time he drops. If Drake has that going in 2045 we'll have a stronger comparison base, but cats just saying Drake is greater than Hov because of the run at #1, nah...

Not sure how Drake's work is now, I didn't think his drops post-Views have been that great, so I'd agree that for at least a half-decade, his music has been stagnant at minimum. He's eating and thriving off his name and brand and the fact no new challengers have really ascended. Rather than him truly dominating with his music...

There were plenty of guys dropping bombs during Drake's run and again, Future and Dot, those two specifically, can match him blow for blow in everything besides popularity really, and you could argue they have made better music easily...

I'm a Drake fan but he's more Madonna in the 80s, making consistent popular music with The Machine behind him, rather than Michael Jackson completely dominating the competition in both popularity and the quality of the work...

Nah 2011 was a transition year but Wayne was still the biggest rapper that year...
2015 is late as hell ain’t no way

And Drake was definitely more popping than Kendrick at that time (2012)

Kendrick was aided in his put on by Drake given his own interlude on Take Care and then had a Drake feature on one of the biggest songs from GKMC

You can honestly argue as early as 2009 he was the buzziest rapper, in 2011 he took over that Take Care album has not stopped charting since. Take Care sold like 400,000 more copies than GKMC first week shyt wasn’t close.

Future also wasn’t right there he had fell off (around the time Thug, Migos, RHQ, Fetty, Speaker Knockerz start blowing up) some before he ramped up with his 2015 mixtape run of Monster, 56 Nights, Beast Mode and then DS2 and the WATTBA tape with Drake. That’s when he distinguished himself as a superstar. He wasn’t that before then, a lot of people made fun of Turn On The Lights and a lot of names were bigger pre-2015.
 
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I know black people who love the Beatles

and tons of black people who love Eminem

naming spoken word pieces and some old semi hit single he did with his group, desperately trying to hold on to your delusional point :unimpressed:

In this city you’re from you refused to name. Sounds good! :mjgrin:
 
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