Drake must really be making Jay-Z anxious

[Surreal]

You think too highly of Jay and Drake

 

[hex]

All Jay gotta do is write a diss record to the regular staff of OVO ghostwriters, past and present.

Don't even mention Drake on the track. Not only would it be hilarious it would dead the situation immediately.

Fred.

 

[CrimsonTider]

There's 50+ pages for a Jay feature, not even a whole solo song. Even talk of him dropping just a verse garners attention from fans and the media.

Drake's popularity in no way affects Jay's. And thanks to Meek Drake's credibility is forever tarnished as a real MC so his legacy can never approach Jay's either. He's strictly a pop act, and there's nothing wrong with that he makes good music, but he'll never be held in as high regard as Jay is to real rap fans and never considered one of the GOATs.

None of this has anything to do with what I posted.

That Jay verse is being talked about heavy by nerds and heads that post on rap boards but it doesn't matter to larger rap audience whatsoever.

 

[Lifer11]

I never said Drake's discography matches Hov's, but Drake been #1 in the rap game for years now and shows no signs of abating. Jay never went up against someone as consistent and ambitious as Drake.

Jay came out at a time that genre changing classics were being dropped regularly by hip-hop GOATs. He's made music with and/or had his music and his brand go up against Biggie, Nas, Pac, DMX, Wu Tang, Big L, Big Pun, Scarface, Redman, The LOX, Outkast, Eminem, Snoop, Dre, Kane, Rakim, Camron, 50, Kanye, and so many more during the peak of the genre and at a time when great music was being released weekly by great artists. He was involved in what is most likely the biggest and best rap beef in the history of the genre against another one of the GOATs. He made music with and brought out Michael Jackson at Summer Jam. He has the 2nd most #1 albums ever behind only The Beatles. He made it so an artist like Drake could even come along and be first and foremost a pop artist that makes rap music.

With all that said, there is literally nothing Drake could do to ever challenge Jay as the most important and impactful artist in rap history. Jay was the biggest rapper in the world when the genre was at it's peak, everyone was consistent at that time, which made it so much harder to stand out and make a lasting impact. Drake realistically has only 2 competitors in Kendrick and Cole and they don't even legitimately compete with each other. In the late 90s/early-mid 2000s it was kill or be killed, it's nothing like that now. There's like 1 artist for each lane in rap and they completely steer clear of each other.

Rap was corporate owned during Jay's prime, but the culture was still apart of and dictated by the streets, you couldn't be a pretender at that time or at least had to do everything you could to hide it. Now it's corporate owned and it's obvious. Drake is closer to Adele than he is to artists like DMX or The LOX, artists that Jay made classics with, beefed with, and outlasted both commercially and in terms of making great music. A street dude in Meek got clowned incessantly by internet nerds and big corporations in a beef with Drake, a forgettable beef at that with mediocre music that no one will remember that actually took a backseat to memes on IG and Twitter. Drake's made some great music, and he's been extremely successful commercially there's no denying that, but he's nowhere near Jay in terms of legacy and never will be.

 

[the cac mamba]

@lucky lefty

 

[Lifer11]

None of this has anything to do with what I posted.

That Jay verse is being talked about heavy by nerds and heads that post on rap boards but it doesn't matter to larger rap audience whatsoever.

You said there's no fever around Jay dropping a new project, not only is there fever around him dropping a new project there's fever around him dropping 1 verse.

And rap is dictated by internet nerds on message boards now, I don't even know real street dudes who have time to discuss music on a regular basis anymore and the people I know who get excited over Drake's music in real life to the point that they actually discuss it are straight noodles or chicks.

 

[Surreal]

Jay came out at a time that genre changing classics were being dropped regularly by hip-hop GOATs. He's made music with and/or had his music and his brand go up against Biggie, Nas, Pac, DMX, Wu Tang, Big L, Big Pun, Redman, The LOX, Outkast, Eminem, Snoop, Dre, Kane, Rakim, Camron, 50, Kanye, and so many more during the peak of the genre and at a time when great music was being released weekly by great artists. He was involved in what is most likely the biggest and best rap beef in the history of the genre against another one of the GOATs. He made music with and brought out Michael Jackson at Summer Jam. He has the 2nd most #1 albums ever behind only The Beatles. He made it so an artist like Drake could even come along and be first and foremost a pop artist that makes rap music.

With all that said, there is literally nothing Drake could do to ever challenge Jay as the most important and impactful artist in rap history. Jay was the biggest rapper in the world when the genre was at it's peak, everyone was consistent at that time, which made it so much harder to stand out and make a lasting impact. Drake realistically has only 2 competitors in Kendrick and Cole and they don't even legitimately compete with each other. In the late 90s/early-mid 2000s it was kill or be killed, it's nothing like that now. There's like 1 artist for each lane in rap and they completely steer clear of each other.

Rap was corporate owned during Jay's prime, but the culture was still apart of and dictated by the streets, you couldn't be a pretender at that time or at least had to do everything you could to hide it. Now it's corporate owned and it's obvious. Drake is closer to Adele than artists like DMX or The LOX, artists that Jay made classics with, beefed with, and outlasted both commercially and in terms of making great music. A street dude in Meek got clowned incessantly by internet nerds and big corporations in a beef with Drake, a forgettable beef at that with mediocre music that no one will remember that actually took a backseat to memes on IG and Twitter. Drake's made some great music, and he's been extremely successful commercially there's no denying that, but he's nowhere near Jay in terms of legacy and never will be.

Another one who thinks too highly of Jiggar. He didn't shift the culture or change anything. Nor did he or many his fellow mcs release genre changing albums(other and Nas and DMX first joints). Drake is garbage to me. The fact Jay is mentioned with him is embarrassing to Jay. But not unexpected.

 

[3xecDreamChaser]

None of this has anything to do with what I posted.

That Jay verse is being talked about heavy by nerds and heads that post on rap boards but it doesn't matter to larger rap audience whatsoever.

How can you even compare them? Jay Z's era was before the internet was even remotely as huge as it is. Yet he was still famous and bigger than Drake was. So people talked about him more than they talk about Drake today.
When it comes to music a different artist might be the flavor of the month. Drake is just the flavor of the month, doesn't mean he's been the flavor for longer than Jay Z.

 

[NoChillJones]

Jay is the undisputed King....Drake is a king in his own right...but he nowhere near Jays status.

 

[Lifer11]

Another one who thinks too highly of Jiggar. He didn't shift the culture or change anything. Nor did he or many his fellow mcs release genre changing albums(other and Nas and DMX first joints). Drake is garbage to me. The fact Jay is mentioned with him is embarrassing to Jay. But not unexpected.

So Biggie, Outkast, Wu-Tang, Redman, Eminem, Pac, Big Pun, Snoop, Dre, Camron, Rakim, Kanye, 50 etc. didn't release genre defining/changing music/albums? All artists that Jay either made music with or had to compete with regularly.

 

[Shadow King]

First of all Jay's legacy/position is already cemented. If he was 10 years younger/behind in his career this would be a different story. Second of all, this right here

Compare pop stars to real mcs, brehs.

 

[Surreal]

So Biggie, Outkast, Wu-Tang, Redman, Eminem, Pac, Big Pun, Snoop, Dre, Camron, Rakim, Kanye, 50 just to name a few didn't release genre defining/changing music/albums? All artists that Jay either made music with or had to compete with regularly.

No they did not. They made great albums but didn't change the course of the culture
There haven't been many Rap albums period that have done that

 

[BamdaDon]

Did this nikka completely forget about 50 cent

 

[Surreal]

Did this nikka completely forget about 50 cent

50 mixtape grind was the last genre changing event in Hiphop. That is a fact.

 

[Lifer11]

No they did not. They made great albums but didn't change the course of the culture
There haven't been many Rap albums period that have done that

You're way off with this. Without those artists and the classic albums they dropped rap wouldn't be the biggest and most influential genre/culture in the world right now, and arguably in the history of music, and Jay is at the forefront of all of that.