Drake's first week sales are misleading (Prior Streams For Hotline Bling were counted)

[010101]

So due to technology, we can't have superstars today? I'm still shocked at how hard it is for old people to understand that sales = consumption = billboards. Cats consume music in different ways, should billboard just choose one of those way? Eventhough both generate the exact same bread. How the hell is it marketing purposes to make 18 bucks per equivalent sale from Tidal? I.e. More than a physical sale or in general the exact same amount, there of the word equivalent.

The only problem I see with this new thing is that singles are counted, individual songs should be counted but not official singles. That'll reflect how commercially successful the album is.

he's a superstar by today's standard yeah
but it's a different level of investment when fans had to line up to buy a record
possibly driving all around town looking for somewhere it wasn't sold out etc.

you're not doing that off just curiosity
it's pretty easy to understand what i mean

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[OfTheCross]

Beyonce flopped so hard... only 500k

Is she available for streaming everywhere or just on TIDAL?

 

[Harry B]

he's a superstar by today's standard yeah
but it's a different level of investment when fans had to line up to buy a record
possibly driving all around town looking for somewhere it wasn't sold out etc.

you're not doing that off just curiosity
it's pretty easy to understand what i mean

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People were forced to do that to get an album. I don't know why would make them superstars. Kanye didn't even release his album for sale, does that make Jaz-O a bigger star cause people went to the store to get his album?

 

[010101]

People were forced to do that to get an album. I don't know why would make them superstars. Kanye didn't even release his album for sale, does that make Jaz-O a bigger star cause people went to the store to get his album?

a person who is not interested will not stand in line etc.

but like i said now you could just press a button an you got it

it's not really an accurate measure of interest or support

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[The Fire]

RIAA is gold/platinum certifications idiot
the sales tally is certified by soundscan
the 800k figure pertains to his weekly sales projection

 

[Pazzy]

The whole manipulate the sales to make an artist seem bigger than what they are. Funny because regardless, drake isn't even going to make any money for himself with that shyt. 50 people gonna make more money off of his own record than he will.

 

[Rigby.]

I'm just sayin...I'm supposed to believe Drake is bigger than Prime Em/50?

Not prime Em, but he's definitely at the level of bigger than fif

its also sustained being at that level vs fif eventually flaming out

 

[Cynic]

He's pretty much on that level man. His popularity at this very moment is up there with anyone in rap history tbh.

If this was 2003 Drake would either sell 10 million or have his career ended because of the ghostwriting thing. There'd be no in between.

He can't exist in 2003... so why bring it up ?

Not prime Em, but he's definitely at the level of bigger than fif

its also sustained being at that level vs fif eventually flaming out

Maybe longevity wise... Prime Fif had Yayo, Buck and Banks and The Game going plat

Drake has yet to turn OVO into anything but his personal hit factory

 

[neverchipsin4weed]

Is she available for streaming everywhere or just on TIDAL?

it's a shame - what was supposed to be a showcase set of months for Tidal has turned into a demonstration that exclusive Tidal releases will be a detriment to an artist.

Tidal went all out, released all of it's biggest, most relevant exclusive artists back to back, and look what happenned:

- Rihanna release disaster
- Kanye West not selling well. The excuse given here is Tidal - bad look for Tidal.
- Beyonce release being overshadowed and outperformed by Drake's. Excuse here, again is Tidal - bad look for Tidal.

all the while Drake is about to put up monster numbers on Apple Music...

think artists all over arent paying attention to this?

 

[You Win Perfect]

This whole new system is retarded.

Couldn't they in theory pay someone to sit there and refresh all day or more likely code something to spike views

i'm inclined to believe this especially for a lame dude like Drake

 

[Edub]

Not to mention streams can easily be manipulated. And I'm not one of those crazy "Baby was buying 200,000 copies of 'C3' to prop Wayne up" conspiracy theory guys, but Youtube already busted people for falsifying views:

YouTube cancels billions of music industry video views after finding they were fake or 'dead'

So imagine what they can do with streams.

Fred.

Truth is NO ARTIST is as big as they make them out to be.

 

[TheRtist]

Truth is NO ARTIST is as big as they make them out to be.

nah Beyonce is big.

you can't fake Stadium ticket sales

 

[North]

Beyonce flopped so hard... only 500k

she only had three days..... counted she dropped mid week on itunes, her
full weeks sales are 875k

 

[Edub]

nah Beyonce is big.

you can't fake Stadium ticket sales

B is a rarity...but those Michael Jackson days of fans crying and falling out are ova...they can't even form pop boy bands anymore...Beyoncé has to trash her man publicly just to move units...the general public is generally over it when it comes to jumpin on celebrity bandwagons now a days...Hollywood can't create a Tom Cruise or Julia Roberts today...social media has made the public numb...people entertain themselves from random anybodies on WSHH, IG, and snapchat...I guarantee suits behind drake are scratching their heads planning out their next steps.

 

[TheRtist]

B is a rarity...but those Michael Jackson days of fans crying and falling out are ova...they can't even form pop boy bands anymore...Beyoncé has to trash her man publicly just to move units...the general public is generally over it when it comes to jumpin on celebrity bandwagons now a days...Hollywood can't create a Tom Cruise or Julia Roberts today...social media has made the public numb...people entertain themselves from random anybodies on WSHH, IG, and snapchat...I guarantee suits behind drake are scratching their heads planning out their next steps.

being a super star is rare in general. You named another rare one in MJ. BIG artists are really big artists; there is no way around it.