Drake's Legacy Will Be Defined By The Success Of OVO SOUND

[RAW_SPK]

just to humor myself ima actually respond to dude's original post.

but in order for his legacy to be defined by OVO Sound and other artists....he has to stop taking said artist work as his own and let them flourish.

simple as that.

 

[TransJenner]

Drake is in the same category as Milli Vanili...In Hip Hop you are REQUIRED to write your own rhymes to be in the GOAT argument...

Drake makes good music or his fans the same way Milli Vanili did...We accept that...And that's his legacy...

He is not in the same bracket as 2Pac, Eminem, Jay Z, Nas Biggie, DMX and etc...Dude should be compared to NSync, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Flo Rida, Pittbull and the likes...

 

[WickedGames]

Kanye is a pop icon...

(1) Look at how HUGE Michael Jackson was, but I have NEVER heard Black People making arguments about "the importance of Michael Jackson for Black Music"...Kanye like Michael has crossed the line...Kanye's music is "black" only because of the color of his skin...

(2) Kanye has had VERY LITTLE influence on Black Music...PAY ATTENTION...Kanye has had a HUGE influence on what is considered Hip Hop, but his influence on Black Music in general has been very MINIMAL...

Where is the Kanye sound? He popularized the resurgence of sampling techniques that were already pioneered and perfected by many beatmakers before him, and that is it, AS FAR AS INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC...

(3) The fact that you are even considering Kanye as a pioneer of Black Music just shows how much Rap Music has DRAINED Black Musicianship...You CANNOT compare Kanye to guys like Isaac Hayes, Smokie Robinson, Otis Redding, Marvin Gaye, Lil Richard, Robert Johnson, Louis Armstrong, Barry White, and many more...

If you do, it just another sign of of how Hip Hop is moving Black People away from musical skills...

(4) Kanye to me is like those Asian dudes who take a stock Honda Civic and sup it up, I can appreciate the artistic expression in that...But I will NOT compare them to mechanics who actually know how all the parts fit and work together, and even further, I will not compare the mechanics to the engineers who know and design the science behind the machine...

There is no reason that a person cannot be all 3 the guys who sups it up, the guy who knows how the parts fit, and the guys who understands the science that makes possible...

I just DOUBT that Kanye is that guy...

Kanye has proven to be a great internal decorator and landscape artist, but he is NOT the architect...That's why he spent $53Ms trying to be a fashion designer, he knows that is his lane...

I could only stomach the first paragraph of this trash post

 

[WickedGames]

just to humor myself ima actually respond to dude's original post.

but in order for his legacy to be defined by OVO Sound and other artists....he has to stop taking said artist work as his own and let them flourish.

simple as that.

PND last album was better than Drake album though and the he tracks he had on Drake album where forgettable.

PND is doing very well. I don't think there's a rnb singer his age who has gained as much traction

Look at all the other hip hop labels and how they have artists just doing nothing for years . PND is 22, dropped 3 projects. Toured the world, wrote a #1 record for Rihanna

 

[NBA Youngbreh]

All this nikka had to do was album like Jay did with Dynasty to put his team on cause if it's Drake it bound to sell
Just call it "views from the tents"

Drake needs to stop being a greedy Jew and stop making OVO into his personal hit factory if he really wants to put his team on.

 

[Ms. Elaine]

PND last album was better than Drake album though and the he tracks he had on Drake album where forgettable.

PND is doing very well. I don't think there's a rnb singer his age who has gained as much traction

Look at all the other hip hop labels and how they have artists just doing nothing for years . PND is 22, dropped 3 projects. Toured the world, wrote a #1 record for Rihanna

I keep forgetting he's only 22.

Very talented.

 

[Mr.Logic]

This is the part where folks always get it wrong. You can't "give" anybody the "wave", they've gotta take it or themselves. You can put people in a position to succeed or reach their potential but they (and luck) ultimately defines what that potential will be. Some people just don't have that "it" factor.

The "it" factor is one of the BIGGEST myths in social history...

You are essentially telling me that out of 7 Billion people on Earth on a very selective are born with the "it" factor to be pop icons?

Here is a real SCIENTIFIC example, there was a time in human history were people believed an "it" factor (genetics) played the most important role in human health, but then research showed modifying the environment and people's behaviors had a FAR GREATER impact on human health...

I will bet everything I have, and say that the same is true for pop culture MOST things in human society..."Putting people in a position to succeed or reach their potential" are MUCH STRONGER than this mystical "it" factor that you referred to...

But let me say I agree with your "it" factor assumption...
(1) It is clear that pop success involves a team of people working together to attain it...You have the artist, management, marketing and etc working together to achieve this success...

(2) That means every member of the team has his/her own "it" factor...So, how do you decide which team member's "it" factor is the best determinant of overall success?

For example, somebody may say that Memphis Bleek is not as famous as Jay Z, because he doesn't have that "it" factor, but how do you know that Memphis Bleek would not be as famous as Jay Z if he had a marketing rep who had the required "it" factor to push Memphis Bleek to the next level of popularity?

Other examples, why did it take Kevin Hart such a LONG TIME to blow up, are you saying that he didn't have the it factor 15 years ago when he was grinding? It doesn't make sense...

(3) My conclusion is that a COMBINATION of "it" factors are more predictive of success than an individual specific "it" factor...People DO NOT become successful on their own...The environment is very predictive of relative success...

Drake was a child actor, his dad and uncle are accomplished musicians...He didn't come out the blue...He was in a better position than the vast majority of people seeking the same success...

 

[RAW_SPK]

PND last album was better than Drake album though and the he tracks he had on Drake album where forgettable.

PND is doing very well. I don't think there's a rnb singer his age who has gained as much traction

Look at all the other hip hop labels and how they have artists just doing nothing for years . PND is 22, dropped 3 projects. Toured the world, wrote a #1 record for Rihanna

"Legend" and the "Wednesday" joints were not forgettable

And The Weeknd has gained more traction than PND (bryson tiller is up there as well)

 

[WickedGames]

The rate music is being released at OVO compared to the average label I don't understand how people say Drake is holding the crew back.

The marketing isn't traditional rap label force down peoples throats. They're really letting the movie speak for itself.

The DvSn rollout a prime example. PND initial roll out the same. OVOSound radio is the perfect platform.

 

[WickedGames]

"Legend" and the "Wednesday" joints were not forgettable

And The Weeknd has gained more traction than PND (bryson tiller is up there as well)

Weeknd is doing something historical. He's doing something nobody in this generation will match when it comes to black artists. But again I said PND age (22)

I don't know if you listen to PND but there are A LOT of better songs than those on PND2. I understand people like this line of thought that Drake is just taking all the fire songs from OVO artist but it really isn't the case.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Can't have poppin underlings when your career is based off of leeching off of them. There's a reason all the rappers affiliated with him have been firmly hidden.

 

[SirBiatch]

I disagree, OP. Drake's legacy will be determined largely by the quality of his music and artistic strides he made.

Will he looked at as a Nelly on steroids?

or an LL Cool J for the new generation?

This thread is definitely a good experiment in exposing lames who click and post without reading the actual thread.

Out here posting their off topic pre-prepared talking points....

as expected.

Kanye is a pop icon...

(1) Look at how HUGE Michael Jackson was, but I have NEVER heard Black People making arguments about "the importance of Michael Jackson for Black Music"...Kanye like Michael has crossed the line...Kanye's music is "black" only because of the color of his skin...

(2) Kanye has had VERY LITTLE influence on Black Music...PAY ATTENTION...Kanye has had a HUGE influence on what is considered Hip Hop, but his influence on Black Music in general has been very MINIMAL...

Where is the Kanye sound? He popularized the resurgence of sampling techniques that were already pioneered and perfected by many beatmakers before him, and that is it, AS FAR AS INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC...

(3) The fact that you are even considering Kanye as a pioneer of Black Music just shows how much Rap Music has DRAINED Black Musicianship...You CANNOT compare Kanye to guys like Isaac Hayes, Smokie Robinson, Otis Redding, Marvin Gaye, Lil Richard, Robert Johnson, Louis Armstrong, Barry White, and many more...

If you do, it just another sign of of how Hip Hop is moving Black People away from musical skills...

(4) Kanye to me is like those Asian dudes who take a stock Honda Civic and sup it up, I can appreciate the artistic expression in that...But I will NOT compare them to mechanics who actually know how all the parts fit and work together, and even further, I will not compare the mechanics to the engineers who know and design the science behind the machine...

There is no reason that a person cannot be all 3 the guys who sups it up, the guy who knows how the parts fit, and the guys who understands the science that makes possible...

I just DOUBT that Kanye is that guy...

Kanye has proven to be a great internal decorator and landscape artist, but he is NOT the architect...That's why he spent $53Ms trying to be a fashion designer, he knows that is his lane...

 

[NSSVO]

Drake is in the same category as Milli Vanili...In Hip Hop you are REQUIRED to write your own rhymes to be in the GOAT argument...

Drake makes good music or his fans the same way Milli Vanili did...We accept that...And that's his legacy...

He is not in the same bracket as 2Pac, Eminem, Jay Z, Nas Biggie, DMX and etc...Dude should be compared to NSync, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Flo Rida, Pittbull and the likes...

You going to be disappointed in the near future.

But anyways, his legacy is cemented. Drake has put up numbers, hits, and his stimulus package was the hottest thing for a VERY long time.

 

[Ms. Elaine]

"Legend" and the "Wednesday" joints were not forgettable

And The Weeknd has gained more traction than PND (bryson tiller is up there as well)

The Weend is 26.


Tiller is already over.

 

[Ms. Elaine]

I disagree, OP. Drake's legacy will be determined largely by the quality of his music and artistic strides he made.

Will he looked at as a Nelly on steroids?

or an LL Cool J for the new generation?



as expected.

Does this herb (@Mr.Logic) think anyone is reading all that incoherent shyt?