Draymond Green Presser on vaccine mandate

[Jim Cornette]

Vassinated

Dumb donkey c*nt

 

[inndaskKy]

Yes. If anyone of those groups of people suddenly started flooding hospitals because of something medical professionals advised them repeatedly not to do - yes, they should be denied admission. The fact that people act like this isn't impacting the hospital system at all despite being largely preventable is nuts.

Well, in actual reality they don't. You have an extremist view that is very alarming.

 

[inndaskKy]

"You're making people do something....without making them, you are making them do something..."



Freedom is the freedom of choice and action without unlawful imprisonment and/or death. Just because one choice has unfavorable consequences, does not mean it isn't a choice. We have the right to not get vaccinated, but we also are not exempt from the consequences of not doing so. This is smart dumb nikka babble.

You should apply the same logic to leaving your house and getting infected smart dumb ass. And to lifestyle choices that leave you at a high risk of actually even being bothered at all by infection. And to not investing in ICUs and hospital personnel because you care more about profits.

Now stfu and accept the consequences of your poor decisions.

 

[bnew]

You said all that only to not explain why flu shots have never been mandated despite millions of people dying from it over the years and there having been a vaccine for it for years.

Also, never has there been any outrage in the media about it nor were people's freedoms restricted to push them to take it.

That's the worst part about smart dumb hypocrites that are pro-mandate. They are acting all high and mighty while by their own logic they have been responsible for the deaths of many people for years and still are right now. How the fukk do these people look themselves in the mirror and their kids in their eyes after spewing all that righteous bullshyt? Disgusting.

look up flu deaths vs covid deaths

 

[inndaskKy]

look up flu deaths vs covid deaths

That is not the point. Y'all making a stand on the principle that not preventing infections, deaths and hospital overloads when we can is wrong. Flu is responsible for all those things and could have easily been fought using the same policies for decades now. But I guess people only became righteous last year.

 

[IGSaint12]

That is not the point. Y'all making a stand on the principle that not preventing infections, deaths and hospital overloads when we can is wrong. Flu is responsible for all those things and could have easily been fought using the same policies for decades now. But I guess people only became righteous last year.

The Flu is not responsible for 700000 deaths in a year and a half. The death rate is exactly why they are treated differently. You can't just ignore it because you don't care about that.

 

[inndaskKy]

The Flu is not responsible for 700000 deaths in a year and a half. The death rate is exactly why they are treated differently. You can't just ignore it because you don't care about that.

You are ignoring what I said and repeating your own point because my point makes you feel uncomfortable. This is a case of cognitive dissonance.

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(not to mention the fact that dying with covid and dying from covid are two different things)

 

[IGSaint12]

You are ignoring what I said and repeating your own point because my point makes you feel uncomfortable. This is a case of cognitive dissonance.

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(not to mention the fact that dying with covid and dying from covid are two different things)

You're not saying anything worthwhile though. Your point seems to be that covid and flu are the same thing when they are not.

 

[inndaskKy]

You're not saying anything worthwhile though. Your point seems to be that covid and flu are the same thing when they are not.

I am not at all saying that they are the same thing, although they are definitely comparable in many ways. I'm saying that corona's properties and impact still provide no justification for a vaccine mandate, nor should companies and the like be allowed to discriminate against non vaccinated people in their policies in order to pressure them to get the shot.

 

[knl14]

That is not the point. Y'all making a stand on the principle that not preventing infections, deaths and hospital overloads when we can is wrong. Flu is responsible for all those things and could have easily been fought using the same policies for decades now. But I guess people only became righteous last year.

The deadliness and hospitalization of covid over the flu and other viruses is the entire point. The flu is not causing overloaded hospitals. The flu is not a pandemic.

What you’re asserting isn’t being said is an obvious, underlying assumption . But ok, if it needs to be said, it’s wrong to not prevent infections like Covid that have a high death/hospitalization rate. Now what is your argument?

 

[IGSaint12]

I am not at all saying that they are the same thing, although they are definitely comparable in many ways. I'm saying that corona's properties and impact still provide no justification for a vaccine mandate, nor should companies and the like be allowed to discriminate against non vaccinated people in their policies in order to pressure them to get the shot.

I referenced you the death numbers and that doesn't include the Hospitals that are inundated with patients which don't allow other emergency patients to get treated. The numbers ARE there for a mandate because not only are those things bad but the virus can mutate and become even worse due to the wide gap between vacinnated and unvaccinated. That's the thing you don't understand we can't just have half the population unvaccinated and stop caring. We are at like the 5th evolution of the virus and it keeps becoming more infectious and deadlier.

 

[knl14]

Only if they can't help them.

Should hospitals have a choice to turn rich people away? People with low moral standards? People in banking and pharmacy? People with poor dietary choices? People who smoke?

You’re trying to make a slippery slope argument that doesn’t really exist. Smoking and poor dietary choices, for example, take hard work and dedication, consistent deliberate choices to beat. Covid symptoms can be lessened or squashed by taking a FREE shot once or twice with a low incidence of long-term side effects.

 

[inndaskKy]

The deadliness and hospitalization of covid over the flu and other viruses is the entire point. The flu is not causing overloaded hospitals.

This is not true. The flu has been doing that for years (depending on the season)and it has never caused a vaccine mandate. And there still isn't one for the flu.

Matter of fact, it happened just three years ago:

California hospitals face a 'war zone' of flu patients -- and are setting up tents to treat them

Many hospitals also say they’re too full to accept any more patients or ambulances.

And when paramedics are allowed to drop off patients at a hospital, the emergency room is often so crowded that there aren’t available staff members to transfer care to. So the emergency responders can’t get back on the road to answer incoming 911 calls, said Kay Fruhwirth, L.A. County’s assistant director of emergency medical services.

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Doctors say that people who haven’t yet gotten the flu shot should still get it. It takes about two weeks to take effect.

National health officials predict the shot may only be 30% effective this year, though the vaccine can reduce the severity and length of the illness for those who get sick.

In L.A. County alone, “even a 30% effectiveness rate can prevent hundreds if not thousands of hospitalizations, and really save lives,” said the county’s interim health officer Dr. Jeffrey Gunzenhauser.

Now please direct me to your posts from the Coli in 2018 calling for a mandate for flu vaccination along with your outrage that people weren't getting vaccinated.

 

[inndaskKy]

I referenced you the death numbers and that doesn't include the Hospitals that are inundated with patients which don't allow other emergency patients to get treated. The numbers ARE there for a mandate because not only are those things bad but the virus can mutate and become even worse due to the wide gap between vacinnated and unvaccinated. That's the thing you don't understand we can't just have half the population unvaccinated and stop caring. We are at like the 5th evolution of the virus and it keeps becoming more infectious and deadlier.

Vaccination doesn't stop the virus from mutating. Viruses mutate all the time and most mutations don't affect their ability to make people sick. If they do, there's also a chance that the vaccine won't work against them.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

This is not true. The flu has been doing that for years (depending on the season)and it has never caused a vaccine mandate. And there still isn't one for the flu.

Matter of fact, it happened just three years ago:

California hospitals face a 'war zone' of flu patients -- and are setting up tents to treat them



Now please direct me to your posts from the Coli in 2018 calling for a mandate for flu vaccination along with your outrage that people weren't getting vaccinated.

Flu deaths in 2018 = 35,000​

COVID deaths in 2020 = 350,000

Flu isn't as deadly, therefore, no mandate.​