Draymond Green Presser on vaccine mandate

[inndaskKy]

They also state the following.....​

While there would be a continual risk of covid-19 outbreaks in areas where the virus had been eliminated, these could be stifled quickly by herd immunity if most people had been vaccinated, said Christopher Dye, an epidemiologist at the University of Oxford, UK. He told Nature, “I guess covid will be eliminated from some countries, but with a continuing and maybe seasonal risk of reintroduction from places where vaccine coverage and public health measures have not been good enough.”

There's no justification for America's infection/death rates and overrun healthcare system from a preventable disease when vaccines that work are available for free.​

Except the world is globalized so this won't matter. Also, since adverse effects can happen and it's a person's own body, they should still have a choice. Particularly people who don't run a real risk of getting seriously ill from it themselves. And because the vaccine is being used to make massive profits at the expense of people's liberties.

And AGAIN, that "overrun healthcare system" and "preventable disease" goes for flu and many other diseases as well, all of which you don't support mandates policies for to prevent them.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Except the world is globalized so this won't matter.

That makes it even more imperative to get vaccinated.....

Vaccination requirements for international travel - Wikipedia​

 

[inndaskKy]

Which still comes nowhere close to 350,000 while people were actively trying to keep themselves virus-free.

So, how deadly does a disease have to be for vaccination mandates to make sense to you?​

The flu has killed 25 million+ people in a single pandemic season before. How big did that number ever have to grow before you were gonna support a mandate for flu shots? This has been true our entire lives and yet we never heard a peep about the need for a mandate.

Also, there is no credible evidence that strict lockdowns prevented many deaths and that the number of deaths would have been much higher otherwise. That is a myth. There is a lot of evidence however that the lockdowns caused many preventable deaths and created untold amounts of other suffering.

Is the relative death toll of covid-19 compared to an average flu season really the moral hill you wanna die on?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

The flu has killed 25 million+ people in a single pandemic season before.

100 years ago.​

 

[inndaskKy]

That makes it even more imperative to get vaccinated.....

Vaccination requirements for international travel - Wikipedia​

No, because there are most likely already too many variations for vaccines to keep up with to eradicate the virus. Vaccination is really mostly to keep yourself safe, not others, which is why it should be a personal choice that is not pressured.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

No, because there are most likely already too many variations for vaccines to keep up with to eradicate the virus.

Because there's too many people that are unvaccinated. They are basically holes in a fence.​

 

[inndaskKy]

100 years ago.​

So? 100 years from now these covid deaths will also be '100 years ago'.

(Nevermind the millions of people who have died of the flu since that season, and even since vaccines against it being widely available but not mandated)

 

[inndaskKy]

Because there's too many people that are unvaccinated. They are basically holes in a fence.​

No, it's because the vaccines took time to develop and during that time there were mutations. And there are actually scientists who believe the mutations might have been less if there had been no lockdowns.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So? 100 years from now these covid deaths will also be '100 years ago'.

But we're not in the year 2121.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

No, it's because the vaccines took time to develop and during that time there were mutations.

Because there was no vaccine.

See how this works?​

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The flu has killed 25 million+ people in a single pandemic season before. How big did that number ever have to grow before you were gonna support a mandate for flu shots? This has been true our entire lives and yet we never heard a peep about the need for a mandate.

Also, there is no credible evidence that strict lockdowns prevented many deaths and that the number of deaths would have been much higher otherwise. That is a myth. There is a lot of evidence however that the lockdowns caused many preventable deaths and created untold amounts of other suffering.

Is the relative death toll of covid-19 compared to an average flu season really the moral hill you wanna die on?

As if you couldn't dig any deeper in the pit of your own filth.

There's bad faith arguments, and there's whatever the fukk this is. If you're willing to tie yourself to arguing in this manner to stand by your point, there's no hope for you ever trying to be reasonable about anything.

 

[inndaskKy]

Because there was no vaccine.

See how this works?​

Uhm...no I really don't actually.

As if you couldn't dig any deeper in the pit of your own filth.

There's bad faith arguments, and there's whatever the fukk this is. If you're willing to tie yourself to arguing in this manner to stand by your point, there's no hope for you ever trying to be reasonable about anything.

Good in depth points breh. I'll get the vaccine if you can show me footage of Draymond blocking prime Kareem's skyhook.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Uhm...no I really don't actually.

No vaccine = more people infected = more variants.

Vaccine = less people infected = less variants.

See polio, measles, smallpox, etc.​

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

look up flu deaths vs covid deaths

That is not the point. Y'all making a stand on the principle that not preventing infections, deaths and hospital overloads when we can is wrong. Flu is responsible for all those things and could have easily been fought using the same policies for decades now. But I guess people only became righteous last year.

It's the entire point.

Any disease can be responsible for all those things, but not every disease requires a vaccine, and not every vaccine for a disease needs to have a mandate -- it's only when "infections, deaths and hospital overloads" surpass a threshold that the latter is put into action, which is the case for COVID, which hasn't been the case for the common flu, in the context of what is occurring right now. Reaching for the branch of influenza being responsible for 25+ million deaths over 100 years ago is falling from the top of the tree into a void and reappearing at the top of the tree again.

You do realize if the common flu had that type of impact, where millions and millions of deaths were happening during a calendar year, during our lifetime, there would eventually be a mandate for vaccination, right?

Uhm...no I really don't actually.



Good in depth points breh. I'll get the vaccine if you can show me footage of Draymond blocking prime Kareem's skyhook.

That makes a lot of sense.

I wouldn't expect anything less from someone that drowns himself in anti-vax rhetoric to then aimlessly take a meme, based on something that was never even stated, because folks couldn't address the actual argument (i.e. taking a lie and believing it to be true as fodder to feed your cognitive dissoance).

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

Sooo do you not have an answer to the question? Posting memes from some cac IG page doesn’t answer the question.