Cause most of the time he gets puts on smaller PGs that Steph can't guard
Draymond Green vs The World...Day 2: Klay Thompson
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Cause most of the time he gets puts on smaller PGs that Steph can't guard
but Kyrie is better than Klay
Why would he? It's like some of y'all ignore the contexts behind the stats.
Please explain then.
Only on the coli a superior 2 points per game will make up for elite perimeter defense.
Klay is more efficient and shoots less but I'm curious now so I'll wait before going deep into stats.
Kyrie is the second option by the way.
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Absolutely not and I guarantee you Warriors fans will tell you this lol
Waiting on that Draymond vs Dion Waiters 
Please explain then.
Only on the coli a superior 2 points per game will make up for elite perimeter defense.
Klay is more efficient and shoots less but I'm curious now so I'll wait before going deep into stats.
Kyrie is the second option by the way.
It's how he scores those points - Irving has a case for best 1on1 scorer in this league and he's done a better job of balancing when to look for offense and when to make plays for others. He's more reliable as a primary ball handler.
Draymond is an elite defender. He changes games with his defense, someone at that level can be argued over Irving despite being inferior offensively and that's not Thompson.
This is a lot closer comparison then I think y'all want to admit
Klay is a top ten shooter ever but damn are y'all making it seem like he's miles ahead of draymond as a basketball player
I'd rather have draymond lead my team right now then klay soft spoken introverted ass
Klay is a top ten shooter ever but damn are y'all making it seem like he's miles ahead of draymond as a basketball player
I'd rather have draymond lead my team right now then klay soft spoken introverted ass
So we are rewarding ball hogging and street basketball show-off over team players even though the question is who is the best NBA player
Who cares about 1 on 1, what's the difference between dribbling the air out of the ball and doing a fancy layup and coming off a screen and scoring a mid range or knocking down a three 42% of the times you are requested to do so? If you are more efficient, you are more efficient period.
The question is not who is the best ball handler so you don't have a point.
A 3&D with elite defense and 3pt% who can guard 1-3, post up and score off the dribble is just as rare as Draymond, you don't see Ariza, Demare Carrol, Bradley, etc having the same impact as Klay. The ones who can score like him have no defense.
There are at least 4 PG's in the east who can score just as much or better than Kyrie with better efficiency without doing all that fancy shyt for IRL daps (Wall is not more efficient but I won't even compare Kyrie to him because it wouldn't be fair)
And I'm not shytting on Draymond, he's an incredible player, but I'll take Klay in a heartbeat every time.
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We getting a Draymond vs Derrick Rose one?
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So we are rewarding ball hogging and street basketball show-off over team players even though the question is who is the best NBA player
Who cares about 1 on 1, what's the difference between dribbling the air out of the ball and doing a fancy layup and coming off a screen and scoring a mid range or knocking down a three 42% of the times you are requested to do so?
The question is not who is the best ball handler so you don't have a point.
A 3&D with elite defense and 3pt% who can guard 1-3, post up and score off the dribble is just as rare as Draymond, you don't see Ariza, Demare Carrol, Bradley, etc having the same impact as Klay. The ones who can score like him have no defense.
Kyrie is a team player. Just because he's dominant in isolation doesn't mean it's a detriment to everyone around him.
Efficient 1on1 scoring is very important in this league. Always has been, always will be especially come playoff time. We just saw Irving run a ISO clinic resulting in a title.
The difference between coming off a screen and 1on1 is that the former is easier to deny. There's very little anyone can really do 1on1 vs Irving. His ball skill is too ridiculous, uses his body to create separation as well as any guard in this league and his jump shot is flexible. Klay saw this first hand in G5 (and without Draymond to back him, was powerless). Plus he can receive a screen himself with the ball in his hands for a good look, something Klay doesn't have in his game.
Klay is a good not elite defender, only posts up mismatches with the same move with varying degrees of success, Bradley/Carroll/Ariza aren't as good offensively as Klay.
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Klay can be a number 1 on a shytty team like the Nets, not saying they would make any noise in the playoffs or even make it but definitely a better record than Draymond on the Nets.
Just like Kyrie debate, Draymond has the privilege of playing with 3 top notch players where all he has to do is play defense and hustle, he doesn't bare the load on offense. Draymond can't take over the game offensively and create shots for himself and drop 30 on any given night. He would be lost and possibly exposed if he was on the Nets, he might be a 14pts, 8 rebounds, 6 assists guy.
Put Klay on the Nets and they easily win about 30 games. He can score with the best of them and is a pretty good defender. With no burden of sharing the ball with Curry or KD, he can easily be a 30pt guy every night and will always be a threat to go off for 40 on any given night.
I know we're gonna keep this kind of discussion going for days now, so I might as well copy and paste the same argument against Draymond. He is not a top 20 player, he might be in the 25-30 zone.
Just like Kyrie debate, Draymond has the privilege of playing with 3 top notch players where all he has to do is play defense and hustle, he doesn't bare the load on offense. Draymond can't take over the game offensively and create shots for himself and drop 30 on any given night. He would be lost and possibly exposed if he was on the Nets, he might be a 14pts, 8 rebounds, 6 assists guy.
Put Klay on the Nets and they easily win about 30 games. He can score with the best of them and is a pretty good defender. With no burden of sharing the ball with Curry or KD, he can easily be a 30pt guy every night and will always be a threat to go off for 40 on any given night.
I know we're gonna keep this kind of discussion going for days now, so I might as well copy and paste the same argument against Draymond. He is not a top 20 player, he might be in the 25-30 zone.