But Draymond's offensive contributions dry up without his great teammates. If Steph wasn't getting doubled all over the floor, Draymond would be a non-factor. Again, see last season. Is he able to help with his passing? Sure, but I think Aaron Gordon could do the same thing if he played with Steph his entire career as well. Instead, he's in Orlando with Elfrid Payton, Markelle Fultz and Cole Anthony for most of his career so nobody talks about him. That would be Draymond if he wasn't drafted by Golden State.
A lot of these arguments everyone's making for Draymond could be applied to Rajon Rondo and Shane Battier as well. They aren't close to being Hall of Famers either but you guys must think they are based on your reasonings for Draymond.
Except Draymond was drafted by Golden State. And he did win three championships with a DPOY. These hypotheticals mean nothing in regards to his HOF candidacy, which will be judged upon his contributions to all-time great teams throughout his career. And this isn't a circumstance where a good player is forgotten because others overshadow him. You will remember Green as a key to the Warriors success and how they changed basketball perspectives. Neither Rondo nor Battier nor Fisher had the influence on the league that Green did w/ GSW. Nobody says "we're looking for the next Derek Fisher" in the draft like they say with Draymond, whose skillset is extraordinarily rare and valuable for the position.
It is known that his offense is limited without good players to play off of, or a team that actually understands how to play in a read & react offense (Last years Warriors did not). However, his value has never been judged upon that. It's how he can elevate lineups to dominate levels through his defensive versatility and offense that enables good players around him.
We know that he is not good enough to be the #1 option of a team. Nobody confuses him for such. But there are also
very few players in this league who have been able to lead a championship level team as a primary option. So the argument in a nutshell for Green is that in a complimentary offensive role (while still the defensive leader), he carries such high value that it can eclipse the impact of a star offensive player who has to share responsibilities with others on a great team (which limits his output, creates redundancies, but is a necessary sacrifice for a team to win a title)
It's 100% about building to win championships with Draymond, and what he has done in his career to drive winning basketball on championship level teams. It's not about putting up stats under any circumstances as plenty of players can do better than him, without driving team success at the highest levels like he can.
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