Dring:"Certain developers and publishers have spoken to me saying they're baffled by Xbox's new strategy and they wonder why make an Xbox version"

[gurf]

You think 3rd party support is stronger than ever because they are losing money or breaking even



If it don't make dollars then it don't make sense

so we're assuming that publishers are making more money than ever? the safest investments ever? or is that something you thought up on your own?

cause it sure as hell doesn't say that anywhere in that tweet.

alternative facts.

 

[King Sun]

You think 3rd party support is stronger than ever because they are losing money or breaking even



If it don't make dollars then it don't make sense

 

[The Mad Titan]

so we're assuming that publishers are making more money than ever? the safest investments ever? or is that something you thought up on your own?

So you think publishers are putting more of their games, bigger games at that, not just on gamepass but day and date for less money? And getting less value out of it?

cause it sure as hell doesn't say that anywhere in that tweet.

alternative facts.

You got know problem running with his interpretations in the OP's post though. Because if you did, you could have quoted gizmo who basically said the exact opposite of me.

Instead you quoted mine

Now you trying to split hairs talking about were exactly


If support for a product is stronger than ever, I can promise you the companies providing the support ain't getting less value out of it now than they did before.

 

[gurf]

So you think publishers are putting more of their games, bigger games at that, not just on gamepass but day and date for less money? And getting less value out of it?


You got know problem running with his interpretations in the OP's post though. Because if you did, you could have quoted gizmo who basically said the exact opposite of me.

Instead you quoted mine

Now you trying to split hairs talking about were exactly


If support for a product is stronger than ever, I can promise you the companies providing the support ain't getting less value out of it now than they did before.

for all we know they were offered more money upfront for gamepass since they can't sell copies on xbox.

how much upfront? who knows. Just another source of profit. Could be 1million, might be 500k.

since there isn't any exclusivity it might be a "fukk it, why not" type deal.

You shyt on everyone else for creating a narrative without anything to back it up.

What makes this any different? There is 0 proof that publishers are making more money than ever being on gamepass.

 

[The Mad Titan]

for all we know they were offered more money upfront for gamepass since they can't sell copies on xbox.

how much upfront? who knows. Just another source of profit. Could be 1million, might be 500k.

since there isn't any exclusivity it might be a "fukk it, why not" type deal.

You shyt on everyone else for creating a narrative without anything to back it up.

What makes this any different? There is 0 proof that publishers are making more money than ever being on gamepass.

I'm really not creating narratives, it's part business experience, forecasting and probabilities.

You stuck on the "more money than ever part" as if I'm saying because of gamepass the are going to make the most money that they have ever made via gamepass.


But, that's not at all what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying that some 3rd party games on gamepass will allow a Publisher/developer to be profitable from a game before it even ships. Sells could be wood status, but it also could be one of their most profitable games they made.

Like you said could be a million could be 500k, but what if your game only costed 250k to make?

 

[The Mad Titan]

It's also weird how fixed y'all are "why would they make a Xbox version" it's like y'all seem to think just because there are less Xbox consoles in comparison to others that the sales aren't going to be worth it, and I mean overall that would be a safe bet if you are completely risk adverse and have no room for error.


But realistically it's really not that expensive nor hard to port these games between these systems nowadays. They are all way more similar than they use to be. The exception being the series S making some devs have to work.

Most these publishers know that if they make a game for a platform with 100 million consumers and for one with 30 million users and the game sells 1 million or so copies between the 2 user bases, the console that performed the best might actually be the smaller one, IF they looking at it relevant to the market cap of said company.

The thing is that were marketing and deals come in, just the potential of reaching 100 million users is too enticing for most publishers to ignore.

 

[King Sun]

I'm really not creating narratives, it's part business experience, forecasting and probabilities.

You stuck on the "more money than ever part" as if I'm saying because of gamepass the are going to make the most money that they have ever made via gamepass.


But, that's not at all what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying that some 3rd party games on gamepass will allow a Publisher/developer to be profitable from a game before it even ships. Sells could be wood status, but it also could be one of their most profitable games they made.

Like you said could be a million could be 500k, but what if your game only costed 250k to make?

Xbox isn't even meeting its own goals for gamepass how the hell is this even happening

 

[The Mad Titan]

Xbox isn't even meeting its own goals for gamepass how the hell is this even happening

When you a trillion dollar company, your goals probably different from most.

 

[King Sun]

When you a trillion dollar company, your goals probably different from most.

Xbox Game Pass Is Running Out Of Wells To Dig Up New Subscribers

If you own an Xbox, there is little reason to not get Game Pass given the vast catalogue it offers. But how on earth is its subscriber base meant to keep expanding?

www.forbes.com

 

[daze23]

I'm baffled why the OP didn't post Dring's update

 

[winb83]

Who is making them make Xbox versions anyway? Stop making them. The market has shown it doesn't really want Xbox so let it go away.

 

[Diondon]

 

[The Mad Titan]

But I'm the irrational stan in the section...

 

[Rekkapryde]

But I'm the irrational stan in the section...

Yes you are

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Yes you are

He said that like a mic drop.

yes, you are