Duke student admits to hanging noose

[godkiller]

''The individual’s name and other identifying details will not be released consistent with federal law (FERPA) that protects the privacy of educational records''.



yeah lets protect the cac

If an individual commits a crime, and they are an adult, how is it their details cannot be released?

 

[Perfectson]

If an individual commits a crime, and they are an adult, how is it their details cannot be released?

what arrestable crime was committed? Can you quote the law that was broken and also show me anywhere you read that said the guy was arrested?

 

[godkiller]

what arrestable crime was committed? Can you quote the law that was broken and also show me anywhere you read that said the guy was arrested?

A federal hate crime was committed and statute broken:

"The Civil Rights Act of 1964 enacted 18 U.S.C.§ 245(b)(2), which permits federal prosecution of anyone who "willingly injures, intimidates or interferes with another person, or attempts to do so, by force because of the other person's race, color, religion or national origin" [1]"

Just last week an ex-Ole Miss student was arrested and charged with a hate crime for hanging a noose:

http://www.newsweek.com/ex-ole-miss-student-indicted-racial-hate-crime-317568

"A former student of the University of Mississippi, Graeme Phillip Harris, has been indicted for allegedly hanging a noose around the neck of a statue of James Meredith, the Southern university’s first black student, as well as displaying a Confederate flag in February of last year.

A grand jury indicted Harris on Friday on civil rights charges, according to the Department of Justice. He was charged with conspiracy to violate civil rights in a “flagrant” move to intimidate students of color. Mississippi’s NAACP branch has called the actions a “racial hate crime.”

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The Duke offender admitted to committing a federal hate crime. The investigation is over. The Duke offender should be arrested, if he hasn't been already, and his name released to the public just like Gaeme Philip Harris.

 

[godkiller]

^^^^

anyone that agrees with this moron is what's wrong with the black community. You have these "know nothing" slugs, bottom feeders in the community who know nothing but to be angry and rage. Inciting hate through the people's lack of understanding of issues. They use to do it through religion, beacuse religion controlled people. Now you have people using social injustices to do it and again saturating real issues with these bullshyt ones.

This is a case of law and FERPA, which all schools abide by and it's worked both ways black, white, indian, latin etc etc. However, this moron want's to incite your hate by making this into a white supremacy issue - when the schools reaction has NOTHING to do with color. HIs argument is that Duke should somehow ignored FERPA and put them into a compliance and legal risk to expose this potential racist student. Why would they do that? What precedent of any school do you have that supports a school doing this. He has none so it's mind boggling just to think how he came up with this moronic solution.
Duke has always treated these cases as such and even morso after the Duke lacrosse scandal, where they and others jumped in front of the race bullet and ended up with egg on their face and getting sued out the ass.

Again don't let the bottom feeders detract from the real issues and incite you to hate because his lack of aptitude and his own personal agenda.

Lol @ this fukking cac. Hanging a noose violates federal law statute and people have been prosecuted for such in the past. The student has confessed to his crime and should hence be prosecuted by the police. The police, not the school, need to RELEASE HIS fukkING NAME.

Are u white

He has to be, breh. His post doesn't been make sense. Hanging a noose is against federal hate crime law. It's a police issue. His name can and should be released.

 

[Pesci]

more like David Duke University

 

[Perfectson]

A federal hate crime was committed and statute broken:

"The Civil Rights Act of 1964 enacted 18 U.S.C.§ 245(b)(2), which permits federal prosecution of anyone who "willingly injures, intimidates or interferes with another person, or attempts to do so, by force because of the other person's race, color, religion or national origin" [1]"

Just last week an ex-Ole Miss student was arrested and charged with a hate crime for hanging a noose:

http://www.newsweek.com/ex-ole-miss-student-indicted-racial-hate-crime-317568

"A former student of the University of Mississippi, Graeme Phillip Harris, has been indicted for allegedly hanging a noose around the neck of a statue of James Meredith, the Southern university’s first black student, as well as displaying a Confederate flag in February of last year.

A grand jury indicted Harris on Friday on civil rights charges, according to the Department of Justice. He was charged with conspiracy to violate civil rights in a “flagrant” move to intimidate students of color. Mississippi’s NAACP branch has called the actions a “racial hate crime.”

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The Duke offender admitted to committing a federal hate crime. The investigation is over. The Duke offender should be arrested, if he hasn't been already, and his name released to the public just like Gaeme Philip Harris.

are you a simpleton?

Like are you serious right now - a random noose doesn't mean hate crime breh. Jesus christ are you this stupid? The case you quoted specifies the noose was hung around a statue of the first black student. And guess what his name was released - you just countered your own stupid arguement you moron.

Quote a law but don't know the meaning behind it - I have no idea why I engage in intellectual discussion in here - most of you only know sports and when in comes to anything else that doesn't involve a ball you're dense as fukk.

this is from the DOJ official statement regarding noose hangings

As part of the Justice Department’s racial threats initiative, the Department – including the Civil Rights Division, the U.S. Attorneys’ Offices and the Federal Bureau of Investigation – is working in partnership with state and local law enforcement and civil rights organizations to aggressively investigate dozens of noose-hangings and other recent racially motivated threats around the country. Where the facts and law warrant, these investigations will result in prosecution.

 

[godkiller]

are you a simpleton?

Like are you serious right now - a random noose doesn't mean hate crime breh. Jesus christ are you this stupid? The case you quoted specifies the noose was hung around a statue of the first black student. And guess what his name was released - you just countered your own stupid arguement you moron.

Quote a law but don't know the meaning behind it - I have no idea why I engage in intellectual discussion in here - most of you only know sports and when in comes to anything else that doesn't involve a ball you're dense as fukk.

Hanging a noose in a school is a form of racial intimidation. Graeme Philip Harris was actually indicted for hanging a noose around a STATUE (not a student as you say) and displaying the Confederate flag. These are just different forms of racial intimidation and neither involve actual persons. This implies an individual victim is not a necessary prerequisite for prosecuting hate crimes. If Harris' name can be released, so should the Duke offenders (whose name is still unknown). I am going to ignore your ad hominem as it's just dumb invective.

"A former student of the University of Mississippi, Graeme Phillip Harris, has been indicted for allegedly hanging a noose around the neck of a statue of James Meredith, the Southern university’s first black student, as well as displaying a Confederate flag in February of last year."

 

[Perfectson]

Lol @ this fukking cac. Hanging a noose violates federal law statute and people have been prosecuted for such in the past. The student has confessed to his crime and should hence be prosecuted by the police. The police, not the school, need to RELEASE HIS fukkING NAME.



He has to be, breh. His post doesn't been make sense. Hanging a noose is against federal hate crime law. It's a police issue. His name can and should be released.

the student admitted to hanging a noose, he never admitted to a federal hate crime. Hanging a noose doesn't automatically get you arrested, there needs to be motive. Who was he intimidating ? All these questions and answers are done in an investigation. I'm glad you feel the police should just go around arresting people for slights that you think are racist, instead of actually obeying the law.

Show me where the kid got arrested - show me you moron. How is his name supposed to be released if he hasn't even been arrested dumb fukk.

 

[godkiller]

the student admitted to hanging a noose, he never admitted to a federal hate crime. Hanging a noose doesn't automatically get you arrested, there needs to be motive. Who was he intimidating ? All these questions and answers are done in an investigation. I'm glad you feel the police should just go around arresting people for slights that you think are racist, instead of actually obeying the law.

Show me where the kid got arrested - show me you moron. How is his name supposed to be released if he hasn't even been arrested dumb fukk.

Hanging a noose is de facto a federal hate crime, as the Harris case shows. So if prosecuted, the Duke offender would be accused of intimidating blacks, just as Harris was. I never said the Duke offender was arrested, that's your strawman. I said he should be arrested, not that he has been:

"The Duke offender admitted to committing a federal hate crime. The investigation is over. The Duke offender should be arrested, if he hasn't been already, and his name released to the public just like Gaeme Philip Harris."

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You are an idiot.

 

[Perfectson]

Hanging a noose in a school is a form of racial intimidation. Graeme Philip Harris was actually indicted for hanging a noose around a STATUE (not a student as you say) and displaying the Confederate flag. These are just different forms of racial intimidation and neither involve actual persons. This implies an individual victim is not a necessary prerequisite for prosecuting hate crimes. If Harris' name can be released, so should the Duke offenders (whose name is still unknown). I am going to ignore your ad hominem as it's just dumb invective.

"A former student of the University of Mississippi, Graeme Phillip Harris, has been indicted for allegedly hanging a noose around the neck of a statue of James Meredith, the Southern university’s first black student, as well as displaying a Confederate flag in February of last year."

yes, i said student. First black student's "STATUE" don't be an idiot. Matter fact you quoted the same ass thing I said

"A former student of the University o Mississippi, Graeme Phillip Harris, has been indicted for allegedly hanging a noose around the neck of a statue of James Meredith, the Southern university’s first black student, as well as displaying a Confederate flag in February of last year."

call me out and you did the same thign lmfao.

I read the case, it was racially motivated and that's why he was arrested and his name released. You don't have any facts on the Duke case and you want the kid arrested, when there's an INVESTIGATION going on. You can't just arrest him because he put a noose up - you have to have racial motiviation and a violation of civil rights. They hung nooses and actually had fake black people hanging in them on a military base - the only thing that happened to them was they were asked to remove them. They didn't get arrested , they didn't get kicked off the base. That was a government base and they actualy had black people hanging in the nooses. There has to be intent to intimidate - which without additional investigation you cannot prove that and that's why the kid hasn't been arresed. However, from the University standpoint there are grounds to be expelled.

You need to understand the law before you start commenting on them, I'm not going to call you an imbecile but you're the same low aptitude person I keep speaking about you spread misinformation and riles up others to spread it and in the end you look stpuid because you don't understand the law. Just like those guys who get pulled over and think they don't have to show a drivers license or put their windows down when the cops approach. Then when they get arrested they try to quote law and they law doesn't protet them. YOu're just like those people

 

[Perfectson]

Hanging a noose is de facto a federal hate crime, as the Harris case shows. So if prosecuted, the Duke offender would be accused of intimidating blacks, just as Harris was. I never said the Duke offender was arrested, that's your strawman. I said he should be arrested, not that he has been:

"The Duke offender admitted to committing a federal hate crime. The investigation is over. The Duke offender should be arrested, if he hasn't been already, and his name released to the public just like Gaeme Philip Harris."

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You are an idiot.

what the fack are you talking about? Which university gave you a law degree or where did you study law.

You quote one case as precedent ? really? The case hasn't even been rule on and you're quoting it as precedent lmfao. Hanging a noose is not a a de factor federal hate crime (maybe that's your opinion but it's not law nor factual true)- you're talking bullshyt and you know it.

 

[godkiller]

yes, i said student. First black student's "STATUE" don't be an idiot. Matter fact you quoted the same ass thing I said


call me out and you did the same thign lmfao.

I read the case, it was racially motivated and that's why he was arrested and his name released. You don't have any facts on the Duke case and you want the kid arrested, when there's an INVESTIGATION going on. You can't just arrest him because he put a noose up - you have to have racial motiviation and a violation of civil rights. They hung nooses and actually had fake black people hanging in them on a military base - the only thing that happened to them was they were asked to remove them. They didn't get arrested , they didn't get kicked off the base. That was a government base and they actualy had black people hanging in the nooses. There has to be intent to intimidate - which without additional investigation you cannot prove that and that's why the kid hasn't been arresed. However, from the University standpoint there are grounds to be expelled.

You need to understand the law before you start commenting on them, I'm not going to call you an imbecile but you're the same low aptitude person I keep speaking about you spread misinformation and riles up others to spread it and in the end you look stpuid because you don't understand the law. Just like those guys who get pulled over and think they don't have to show a drivers license or put their windows down when the cops approach. Then when they get arrested they try to quote law and they law doesn't protet them. YOu're just like those people

You must be retarded. Hanging a noose in a school is de facto racially motivated. The only line Harris draws is that people can be prosecuted for hanging nooses around things other than people. This argument only lends further credence to the notion the police should arrest and charge the Duke student. His name should hence be released. Anything else is racist injustice. I am laughing at your righteous and ignorant cac rage. Go fukk yourself.

 

[Perfectson]

You must be retarded. Hanging a noose in a school is de facto racially motivated. The only line Harris draws is that people can be prosecuted for hanging nooses around things other than people. This argument only lends further credence to the notion the police should arrest and charge the Duke student. His name should hence be released. Anything else is racist injustice. I am laughing at your righteous and ignorant cac rage. Go fukk yourself.

you sound so stupid , now you're just aggravating

e only line Harris draws is that people can be prosecuted for hanging nooses around things other than people.

did you really just say that? Seriously? LMFAO!!!!


indictment does not mean it's a law. I don't have time to teach you law 101.

If you don't know the difference between hanging a noose randomly on a campus vs hanging a noose on a historically import black figure in the state of mississippi at a campus known for racial tension , then I have no idea what to tell you. If you can't sort your little pea brain around the particulars then there's nothing left for me to discuss with you.


You've already lied and said the kid admitted to a doing a "hate crime" which he did not.

You already lied about hanging a noose being a de facto hate crime, which again it is not.

You are a liar

 

[godkiller]

what the fack are you talking about? Which university gave you a law degree or where did you study law.

I should ask you the same question. But I'll answer: simply reading of the law and the fact noose hangings are routinely prosecuted under hate crime auspices lead me to believe that the aforementioned is indeed a punishable offense.

You quote one case as precedent ? really? The case hasn't even been rule on and you're quoting it as precedent lmfao. Hanging a noose is not a a de factor federal hate crime (maybe that's your opinion but it's not law nor factual true)- you're talking bullshyt and you know it.

Regardless of success, the fact people are repeatedly prosecuted under hate law auspices for hanging nooses belies the fact that hanging a noose is indeed considered a hate crime. This means that the Duke offender should be arrested and charged like all the rest. His name should hence be released. Hanging a noose is racial intimidation and de facto a hate crime by any normal reading of the law.

 

[godkiller]

you sound so stupid , now you're just aggravating

Suck a dikk.

If you don't know the difference between hanging a noose randomly on a campus vs hanging a noose on a historically import black figure in the state of mississippi at a campus known for racial tension , then I have no idea what to tell you. If you can't sort your little pea brain around the particulars then there's nothing left for me to discuss with you.

It's racial intimidation all the same.The line you draw here is your own, cac. People have been prosecuted for hanging nooses in all kinds of places.

You've already lied and said the kid admitted to a doing a "hate crime" which he did not.

You already lied about hanging a noose being a de facto hate crime, which again it is not.

You are a liar

I did not "lie". These are my opinions. The kid committed a hate crime and should be prosecuted per the reading of the law. The only liar here is you when you asserted I said "the police arrested the Duke offender". I never said that.