Duncan or Hakeem, who you taking?

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Dunno how this a question if youve actually seen both play in their primes. Timmy is great, most def top10 and its not a huge gap but Hakeems better at almost everything. Really Timmy was only a better defensive rebounder. Timmy has better assist numbers but he also had much better coaching lets not discount that. Pop is arguably the GOAT coach and he could build alltime great defenses AND offenses. He knows his shyt as well as anyone. Rudy T is underrated and revolutionary in some ways like how he used the 3ball but hes not in the same class as Pop. Then theres the minutes management Pop is known for i mean cmon he manages minutes as well as anyone ever prolly better. Timmy has been playing 30 minutes a game since 07!!!! 30!!!!!!! Keem passed his prime in a lockout season at 99 aged 37yo was playin 36.........

Timmy also had better post passers than Hakeem. Him and Shaq did. Great passers from guards like Penny, Wade, Kobe, Manu, Tony etc. If u actually watched all 3 player youd know Hakeem had to handle the ball far more. He had to take it up from halfcourt a lot, was doubled far out more than those two who were just doubled near the post, and create shots because he didnt have consistent passers that could get him the ball in the post like those 2 for when nikkas was frontin him, double teaming, even when he had good position i remember Kenny throwin mediocre to bad passes to him. Hakeem was a far better ball handler and more skilled on the perimeter, his midrange shot shyts on both of em. If Hakeem had passers on the wing like those guys he couldve been much more efficient with much less turnovers since he had far more pressure to actually dribble and make something happen outside post. He wouldve had much better assist numbers out the post for damn sure
 
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He won more and dumb nikkas still taking about system

Tim Duncan is the foundation and focal point of that system. There is NO Spurs system without Duncan :snoop:

Why did you quote me and call me a dumb nicca (im white btw) when i didnt mention system?

I asked what does he do better.

Is he better on offense?
Better on defense?

Yall avoid those questions
 
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He won more and dumb nikkas still taking about system

Tim Duncan is the foundation and focal point of that system. There is NO Spurs system without Duncan :snoop:
Nobody with any sense would argue that he wasn't the most important cog in the Spurs' wheel. However, that system has not only allowed him to extend his career, but it's put him in a position of contending without being reliant on him producing at an all-time great level (only averaged 20 ppg ONCE over the last 10 years and only averaged 35+ minutes ONCE over the last 11 years). Hakeem never had the luxury of playing in a situation like that, and if the roles were reversed you wouldn't be as quick to dismiss the significance of this.
 

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It tells me they struggled and in the playoffs they ramped it up.

Do you know how impressive it is to beat 4 52+ win teams (ALL WITHOUT HCA in any round)

Dream Averaged 33, 10, 4.5 assist, 1.2 steals and 2.8 blocks a game in the playoffs playing 22 games. Duncan doesn't have anything nearly that impressive when you consider the amount of playoff games played.

:whoo:
 

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Why did you quote me and call me a dumb nicca (im white btw) when i didnt mention system?

I asked what does he do better.

Is he better on offense?
Better on defense?

Yall avoid those questions
They're even on offense :yeshrug:. Prime Tim is giving you 25 a game, he was around 22-25 ppg a game during his MVP years and he saw more than his fair share of double and triple teams just like Hakeem was. Dream got way more shots than Timmy and that's not even close. Act like passing and creating shots for others and getting assists ain't part of offense either which Tim still does well to this day

People like Hakeem cause he more flashy, nikkas like Dream Shakes more than bank shots I get it :manny:

But nikkas got me fukked up with some of the tomfoolery y'all been saying.

And defense is dead even in my book, Tim one of the GOAT interior defenders and you know it. I ain't avoiding shyt you can come on with it
 

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No contest Hakeem all day. Tim Duncans game is like watching paint dry.

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I'm gonna say this...I think defense is a wash or goes to Duncan. As good as Hakeem was and as good as those stats look, Duncan was absolutely an equal force.

Duncan wasn't trying to go for blocks, steals, etc. He was consistently contesting and altering shots, being a great anchor, and cutting off passing lanes.


Duncan has been an elite defensive anchor in multiple decades plus he's been just as effective amid all the rule changes that opened up the lanes for perimeter players. He's also been killing dudes offensively despite all the rule changes that kept popping up.

I think Duncan would have been ever better in Hakeem's time.
Why does this seem like you're suggesting Duncan was the one who was more notable for consistently contesting and altering shots + cutting off passing lanes because the surface stats don't weigh in his favor?

:leostare:
 

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People forget how good Hakeem was in the 80s too

He did take the Rockets to the finals in 86 and had monster playoff series.

He doesn't credit but he was an Athlete in the same mold as Amar'e ... Freakish
 

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Hakeem averaged 19 and 10 in his 15th season.
Did you even know what you're talking about?
That was a lockout season, if you looks at his numbers immediately before and after that season he was posting career lows all over the board.
 

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Did you even know what you're talking about?
That was a lockout season, if you looks at his numbers immediately before and after that season he was posting career lows all over the board.

Nicca of course i know that i was watching the games. Fukk is your point?

You said hakeem put up good numbers for 10 years which was a bold faced lie. You dont know what youre talking about

*looks at your screen name*

maybe youre high

you said hakeem had 10 good years

in year 11 he averaged 28 points, 11 boards, 4 assists and 3.4 blocks :russ:

10 years my ass

hakeem scored more than duncan and he did it more efficiently despite having less talent around him

he was a better defensive player and they aren't comparable on offense

the only people that say prime duncan was better than prime hakeem is young guys on the net who didn't watch hakeem play
 

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who cares if it was a lockout season?? weren't all the younger players just as fresh health wise???
 
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