Durant averaging 2.5 blocks a game?

[mastermind]

Ok. He did, big reason why he was gassed in 4Q's that series and OKC couldn't close the series. There's a difference between KD defensively in Oklahoma City and Golden State, all his defensive metrics are up practically across the board. Y'all would be fools to think the cast of defenders he plays with, the system, and the fact that he doesn't have anywhere near the offensive burden he once had isn't a huge factor to this.

where did I deny any of this?

My point is that KD had shown that he can be an elite defender before OKC.

 

[sidenikkagawd]

KD handles are still off to me , below average handles but I guess that what comes with that height

Say one of the best perimeter Iso scorers ever has below average handles brehs.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Say one of the best perimeter Iso scorers ever has below average handles brehs.

KD's handles are below average or average , what is goofy about what I said

 

[ThiefyPoo]

Wrong thread

 

[CHICAGO]

KD has been a legit 240 lbs for the past 4+ years while Giannis isn't even 225 lbs. People mistake his low body fat and defined build as "strength"

THIS

PPL ACT LIKE THIS IS THE 23 YR OLD KD.

GO BACK AND WATCH THE FINALS...

BRON USED TO PLAY BULLY BALL AGAINST KD ALL THE TIME.

THAT shyt WAS DEAD.

HE COULD BARELY SCORE IN THE HALF COURT AGAINST KD.

KD HAS GOTTEN MUCH STRONGER
AND GIANNIS STILL GETTING BULLIED BY BRON.



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[Draje]

KD handles are still off to me , below average handles but I guess that what comes with that height

KD has amazing handles for a 7 footer, are you high? Y'all nikkas confuse crazy dribble moves with handles but KD can get anywhere he wants on the court.

What's most impressive about Kevin on D is he is patient. He doesn't go for head fakes and he times his jump correctly. He is thin enough to where he is not a slave to his size and gets caught in the air like a Drummond or Ezeli sized center

Yeah, he's become so disciplined and honed his instincts to the point where he's an elite defensive presence. He's so explosive and long that he forces players to make a decision before he reacts.

 

[AceAge]

HES THE MOST ATHLETIC 7 FOOTER IN THE LEAGUE.
THIS SHOULD BE EXPECTED.

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His handles for his height are the surprising part to me, he handle handle the ball extremely well for being 6'10

 

[mastermind]

Yeah, he's become so disciplined and honed his instincts to the point where he's an elite defensive presence. He's so explosive and long that he forces players to make a decision before he reacts.

this is why Giannis is not a better defender than Durant.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

KD has amazing handles for a 7 footer, are you high? Y'all nikkas confuse crazy dribble moves with handles but KD can get anywhere he wants on the court.



Yeah, he's become so disciplined and honed his instincts to the point where he's an elite defensive presence. He's so explosive and long that he forces players to make a decision before he reacts.

He improved his handle now but dude just 3 years ago was a turnover machine and his dribble wasn't tight enough

 

[Draje]

this is why Giannis is not a better defender than Durant.

I never argued to the contrary. I think Durant is probably the most underrated defender in the league because he's absolutely elite. nikkas think that because Durant still looks skinny that he's weak but he's extremely strong. Same with Curry who is shockingly strong, especially in his lower body so you see him able to hold position against strong players too. . Golden State probably got some of the best strength coaches in the league.

I do think a season or two under Golden State's coaching and development squad could turn him into a comparable defender. Giannis is also much better defender at this age than Durant was.

 

[Draje]

He improved his handle now but dude just 3 years ago was a turnover machine and his dribble wasn't tight enough

3 years ago?

In 2014, you could have said Lebron is useless in the post and would never be a champion based off judging things from 3 years ago.

Players make drastic improvements in years. Anyone who judges players currently by what they did 3 years ago is crazy.

 

[ISO]

THIS

PPL ACT LIKE THIS IS THE 23 YR OLD KD.

GO BACK AND WATCH THE FINALS...

BRON USED TO PLAY BULLY BALL AGAINST KD ALL THE TIME.

THAT shyt WAS DEAD.

HE COULD BARELY SCORE IN THE HALF COURT AGAINST KD.

KD HAS GOTTEN MUCH STRONGER
AND GIANNIS STILL GETTING BULLIED BY BRON.



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He plays on the fukking Warriors.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

3 years ago?

In 2014, you could have said Lebron is useless in the post and would never be a champion based off judging things from 3 years ago.

Players make drastic improvements in years. Anyone who judges players currently by what they did 3 years ago is crazy.

His handles still aren't that good compared to other perimeter scorers , I'm not comparing him to other 7 footers .. We know KD is special and not to many 7 footers can dribble like him but I'm comparing him to other elite perimeter scorers

 

[CHICAGO]

He plays on the fukking Warriors.

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH KD LOCKING HIM UP
WITH NO HELP?





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[Malta]

Giannis is a bit faster in the open court with longer strides than KD and has a lower body fat %, that's it.

He ain't more athletic than KD; he's not nearly as coordinated with his movements, doesn't have even 1/10th the hand eye coordination as far as shooting goes, and he isn't as stronger either; KD has been a legit 240 lbs for the past 4+ years while Giannis isn't even 225 lbs. People mistake his low body fat and defined build as "strength" when he's probably one of the weakest guys in the league for his size next to his teammate Thon; notice how all of the guys he's bullying in the paint this season are all guards and small wings? Notice how he has almost nothing resembling a post game; especially against legit frontcourt players? That's his lack of strength showing. Durant has one of the most expansive and diverse games in NBA history so his athletic gifts aren't shown off as much; a 7 footer who can pull up for a high % transition 3 (this is also an example of athleticism if you didn't know) doesn't need to barrel to the rim every play out of necessity like Giannis is doing this season.

KD better than Giannis and better than Bron. He gonna finish much higher in DPOY rankings and in first team all-defense over both of em for forwards too with Kawhi injured for such a large portion of the season. He been an underrated if not elite defender since 2014 if we're being honest; no one scored less on ISOs when guarded by any other player in the league than KD that season if I'm not mistaken.

Giannis listed weight is from years ago, and saying he's one of the weakest guys for his size is ridiculous, also how can you say he doesn't have a post game when he's starting most of his offense there on the season? He leads wing players by a wide margin on post touches, that's like a staple of his offense to get the ball on the wing and start a backdown. How is it possible for a guy that you say is one of the weakest in the league for his size to lead the league in points in the paint, especially when @CHICAGO said he bullies his way into the lane ala Bron.

For all the things you all say Giannis doesn't do, or doesn't have, it's amazing he's even able to play in the NBA.