Durant will retire w more points and rings than bron

[homiedontplaydat]

Nah, for at least a generation everyone is going to remember that LeBron had 4 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs, and a 17-4 record over Durant AFTER Durant joined the league until KD latched onto a 73-win team.

They're also going to watch a billion LeBron highlights for every one KD highlight.

I don't see how Durant overcomes that. People like Oscar or Wilt who get overrated in retrospect due to stats have some sort of overwhelming accomplishment, KD has never had that. And the rings aren't going to be seen as any bigger than Havlicek's rings - no one goes off about Havlicek being better than Jerry West and he has WAY more rings, but everyone and their mama knows West was way better when they were actually playing.


Here's another way to look at it. MVP votes since Durant came into the league.

2008: LeBron 4th, Durant no votes
2009: LeBron 1st, Durant no votes
2010: LeBron 1st, Durant 2nd
2011: LeBron 3rd, Durant 5th
2012: LeBron 1st, Durant 2nd
2013: LeBron 1st, Durant 2nd
2014: Durant 1st, LeBron 2nd
2015: LeBron 3rd, Durant no votes
2016: LeBron 3rd, Durant 5th
2017: LeBron 4th, Durant 9th
2018: LeBron 2nd, Durant 7th

Who is going to rank Durant higher than LeBron in history when everyone ranked LeBron above Durant damn near EVERY season they ever played?

It wouldn't matter how many rings Havlicek won no one would give a fukk about him any way, hell no one would care about Jerry West ass if he wasn't the logo and a good exec

Durant is an all time great talent who is currently stacking rings and finals MVPs in his prime. If KD gets to 5 or 6 rings, 4-5 finals MVPs, and possibly a defensive player of the year or another MVP it's not gonna be so easy to put Bron over him.

Bron needs more hardware. Whether that's an MVP or a ring, him just Stat padding for the rest of his career ain't gonna be enough to DEFINITIVELY put him over KD to a non stan.

It's not impossible for KD to be considered the greatest small forward of all time once ALL THE DUST SETTLES. That's why KD would be a fool to even think about joining Bron in LA. Bron ain't winning shyt for the rest of his career, KD is in a situation where could realistically get to 6 rings and become a top 5 all time scorer.

Its gonna be hard to call someone the GOAT when there was another player in the same generation playing THE SAME POSITION that's possibly better than them and has more rings

 

[MJ Truth]

Im sure at this rate Durant will get more rings and more points but he will never be considered a better player.

I'm not sure the math y'all are doing where Durant is going to end up with more points all-time than Bron.

 

[GPBear]

People try and discount KD’s rings but still count Lebrons rings in Miami

They just have this weird agenda, sensationalist hype beast social media makes them want to say Lebrun is the goat but it’s just not true

At least when KD formed his super team he didn’t lose to dirk nowitski

 

[IllmaticDelta]

It wouldn't matter how many rings Havlicek won no one would give a fukk about him any way, hell no one would care about Jerry West ass if he wasn't the logo and a good exec

Durant is an all time great talent who is currently stacking rings and finals MVPs in his prime. If KD gets to 5 or 6 rings, 4-5 finals MVPs, and possibly a defensive player of the year or another MVP it's not gonna be so easy to put Bron over him.

Bron needs more hardware. Whether that's an MVP or a ring, him just Stat padding for the rest of his career ain't gonna be enough to DEFINITIVELY put him over KD to a non stan.

It's not impossible for KD to be considered the greatest small forward of all time once ALL THE DUST SETTLES. That's why KD would be a fool to even think about joining Bron in LA. Bron ain't winning shyt for the rest of his career, KD is in a situation where could realistically get to 6 rings and become a top 5 all time scorer.

Its gonna be hard to call someone the GOAT when there was another player in the same generation playing THE SAME POSITION that's possibly better than them and has more rings

noone is going to forget what KD did

 

[Columbo]

If that was the case he could've stayed with that alpha Russ since leadership is so important.

Curry is a smarter, more efficient alpha. Durant couldve stayed with the Thunder, him and Russ wouldve had several more chances but he took the easy way out. I have to agree with the breh that said Durants rings have an asterisk

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Nah, for at least a generation everyone is going to remember that LeBron had 4 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs, and a 17-4 record over Durant AFTER Durant joined the league until KD latched onto a 73-win team.

They're also going to watch a billion LeBron highlights for every one KD highlight.

I don't see how Durant overcomes that. People like Oscar or Wilt who get overrated in retrospect due to stats have some sort of overwhelming accomplishment, KD has never had that. And the rings aren't going to be seen as any bigger than Havlicek's rings - no one goes off about Havlicek being better than Jerry West and he has WAY more rings, but everyone and their mama knows West was way better when they were actually playing.


Here's another way to look at it. MVP votes since Durant came into the league.

2008: LeBron 4th, Durant no votes
2009: LeBron 1st, Durant no votes
2010: LeBron 1st, Durant 2nd
2011: LeBron 3rd, Durant 5th
2012: LeBron 1st, Durant 2nd
2013: LeBron 1st, Durant 2nd
2014: Durant 1st, LeBron 2nd
2015: LeBron 3rd, Durant no votes
2016: LeBron 3rd, Durant 5th
2017: LeBron 4th, Durant 9th
2018: LeBron 2nd, Durant 7th

Who is going to rank Durant higher than LeBron in history when everyone ranked LeBron above Durant damn near EVERY season they ever played?

exactly

 

[Wiirdo]

For the first time in history nikkas are devaluing rings and dismissing them as asterisk rings smh.

'99 Spurs and '12 Heat.

 

[Dwolf]

Who was that tall lanky nikka who played with Steph and Klay?

Draymond?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Its gonna be hard to call someone the GOAT when there was another player in the same generation playing THE SAME POSITION that's possibly better than them and has more rings

Did you miss the part where LeBron finished ahead of KD in damn near EVERY MVP vote of their entire careers?

Beat him in damn near EVERY head-to-head game they played?

Was in the Finals picture damn near EVERY single year?

LeBron was 1st-team NBA in every single one of KD's first 11 seasons. KD has only been 1st-team NBA in 6.

LeBron has 6 All-Defensive selections and two DPOY runner-up finishes. KD has zero All-Defensive selections and has never received even a single DPOY first-place vote.

KD's greatest accomplishments until joining a 73-win team were losing to LeBron in the Finals and losing a 3-1 lead to the same team LeBron beat.

More NBA GMs say they would start a franchise with LeBron than start a franchise with KD right now. Not in their primes, even NOW they'd rather build around LeBron than around KD. NBA GM's say that LeBron is the best small forward in the league right now, the most versatile player, the best passer, the best leader, has the highest bball IQ, and forces opposing coaches to make the most adjustments. That's NOW, and LeBron is nearly 34 while Durant is 30 and in his prime. And yet GMs agree across the board that LeBron still better.

Hell, LeBron is "The King" while KD is "The Servant."

How many different ways can I break this down for you? NO ONE will ever say that KD was better than LeBron when they were both playing. LeBron dominated him in every way.

Durant is an all time great talent who is currently stacking rings and finals MVPs in his prime. If KD gets to 5 or 6 rings, 4-5 finals MVPs, and possibly a defensive player of the year or another MVP it's not gonna be so easy to put Bron over him.

So KD stans are now gonna give him a potential DPOY award when he hasn't even gotten a single 1st-place DPOY vote in his entire career, hasn't gotten a single all-defensive team selection in his entire career, and isn't even a top-3 defender on his own team?

Just because KD told them he deserves it.

Talk about another MVP when it's been like five years since his last top-5 MVP vote finish.

He's gonna get the same credit for his rings that Sam Jones does, that Havlicek does, that Pippen does, that Kobe does. It's a great argument for stans, but no one else will care.

KD ain't even the focus of his own team's offense, that's Curry. He ain't even the 2nd-best shooter on the team, that's Klay. He ain't the most important distributor or even second-best, that's Steph and Draymond. He ain't the focus of the team's defense, that's Draymond, and he ain't second best either, Klay and Iggy both ahead of him. He damn near seven feet tall and he ain't even the best rebounder, Dray and Zaza and every other big man was better than him there.

KD has lucked into a couple of Finals MVPs because the defenses have completely focused on Curry and he's gotten to feast on single coverage and broken plays. He's been able to have the easiest job ever on defense because Draymond and Klay and Iggy do all the heavy lifting there. But everyone knows this ain't his team and has never been his team. He's just an elite cog in a machine that was already elite without him.

KD is a fantastically skilled all-around player. It's amazing that he is nearly seven feet tall and shoots as well as he does.

But 20 years from now people will still be watching ESPN classic and talking about LeBron scoring the final 25 points in Game 5 against Detroit in 2007, dueling for 45 points in game 7 against Boston in 2008, putting up 49-5-6 trying to beat Orlando 1-on-5 in 2009, shutting down MVP D-Rose on both ends of the court in 2011, putting up the 40-18-9 game when Bosh went out and they went down 2-1 to the Pacers in 2012, putting up the 45-15-5 game when they went down 3-2 to the Celtics in 2012, putting up the 37-12-5 game in Game 7 against the Spurs in 2013, going super-saiyon averaging 41 points/game with Love/Kyrie out against the Warriros in 2015, scoring ridiculous 41-16-7, 41-8-11, and then 27-11-11 with the biggest block in history to come back from 3-1 down in the 2016 Finals, and then dragging a horrible Cavs team to the Finals in 2018 with 46-12-5, 44-10-8, 45-8-7, 43-8-14, 42-10-12, 44-5-3, 46-11-9, and 51-8-8 games, all in must-win situations.

Meanwhile, they'll remember that KD....hit a few threes? And not even the biggest ones, as LeBron's got way more game-winners and buzzer-beaters than KD too.

KD will go down as the best beta in NBA history. That doesn't get you tagged as the best SF of all time.

 

[Left.A1]

Lebron mIgor be on that play into my 40’s shyt so idk about the points lead

 

[Cadillac]

yes he joined the exact same team that won 43 games

bron fans rewriting history so much that they done erased Bosh out of the picture

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

KD could have more rings but he still won’t be a better player than LeBron

If T-Mac had more rings than Kobe you'd say he was better.

 

[letti cook]

People try and discount KD’s rings but still count Lebrons rings in Miami

They just have this weird agenda, sensationalist hype beast social media makes them want to say Lebrun is the goat but it’s just not true

At least when KD formed his super team he didn’t lose to dirk nowitski

hey really acting like people didnt talk this same "stain on his legacy/asterisk his rings" shyt when Bron went to Miami..

if KD keeps winning rings in the fashion he's doing it, the tide will turn..i keep saying, the hatred for him is jumping the shark and its gone turn the other way cause people gone keep hating to the point he becomes underrated

nikkas HATED Kobe in real time..HATED...now he can do no wrong after the fact...KD will get his mythology too...especially if he winds up winning rings somewhere else

 

[CSquare43]

Ya'll argue about the most inane things....

 

[Auger]

KD is a better individual player than Steph.

But...Curry has more rings though