Dwayne Wade ex-wife suing him for pressuring his son into changing gender for financial gain (Wants him to wait until he is adult to decide)

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Dude. I was having a specific conversation with @Fanservice that had nothing to do with whatever you turned the conversation into. He/she said “You can’t get surgery or the hormones until you’re an adult.” which he and I went back and for on. Then you interjected talking about the specifics of genital surgery, which wasn’t specifically what we were taking about. Then demanded attention for whatever you were talking about. WE were talking about surgery and hormones of any kind of teens with and without parent consent. Then YOU interjected and started talking about dikk surgeries screaming about proof. For what I was discussing, any surgery or hormone treatment being given to someone under 18 is my proof. Which we know occurs. You asked for proof and I gave one of someone who wasn’t 18 and also didn’t have parental consent. I don’t know if it’s dikk surgery or not. They said gender reassignment surgery so that was enough for my point.

All that other stuff about politics and daps and taking personal, I don’t have nothing to do with that. I don’t take anything personal because we don’t know people personally. You’re arguing something different than what was being spoken on. Not entirely different, but different from the conversation that was being had between me and Fanservice.


Gender reassignment = bottom surgery, in general, that's all I was ever arguing against. If you are in agreement with my stated position, then I misunderstood your original position and it was a fault that I can admit to, although there are people in this thread arguing about dikks being cut off, I can leave it to apply to that sentiment. The other procedures are reversible so I don't pay any mind to them, and it's most likely the reason why medical professionals are on board with it. But the first thing that needs to be agreed upon is that medical professionals are making the decisions, not the children, not the parents, unless they doctor fish, which unless outlawed, I can do nothing about it.


I see your current point though, it's reasonable. I assumed you were talking solely about the bottom surgery, and was attacking that point.


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Error on my part but I see the main issue, "gender reassignment" needs to be defined for the purposes of argumentation, because I can see how people are using that term as an umbrella to throw reversible treatments/procedures to muddy the waters, I see it as the basis for legal interpretation too, I see legally they are categorizing "gender reassignment" surgery to cover anything that could be considered "gender affirming care". Not saying you were intentionally muddying the waters, the context for your position was granted by the comment you were originally responding to.

But on the "personal" thing, I just say that because people think I'm attacking them, I really just attacking the position, I don't even care for the intelcour in the grand scheme of things.
 

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I don't care about a story. My position is simply 9/10 doctors aren't signing off on the surgery, you would have to fish for a doctor who is outside of the medical consensus. I'm saying the medical consensus is 18 years or older for bottom surgery. If you think the medical consensus allows for minors to have the surgery done, I wanted proof of that. But there is no proof of that, I already know that, I just know that people holding to the bottom surgery mania don't know that info, so I simply hound them publicly for proof, knowing they can't provide it, and it makes them look dumb and uninformed, which is always my intention when engaging in debate, to make the other side look dumb and uninformed, because that's much easier than educating that person on every single steps for the glimmer of hope that they change their position.

None of this is ever personal, I just hate when people spread misinformation. Notice there are daps everywhere but most are glossing over my comment asking for proof. It's because they can't outside of some conspiracy site, so they just ignore my comment and play into cognitive dissonance.

But we can drop this, it won't go anywhere but a back and forth of me asking for proof and you being unable to post it, because you can't, it doesn't exist.
Child getting puberty blockers at 12. hormones at 13.


Same child getting surgery at 16.
All paid for by Medicare.


Child is diagnosed autistic and the government paid to cut of his genitals at 16
 
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Child getting puberty blockers at 12. hormones at 13.


Same child getting surgery at 16.
All paid for by Medicare.


Child is diagnosed autistic and the government paid to cut of his genitals at 16

You read my comment and responded with this?


Can you give this a try and report back with the results:

 

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fukk this woman. First off, how dare she undermine her daughter's transition and insinuate that this visceral time in her [Zaya's] life as nothing more than exploitation for financial gain. How the fukk does she think this makes Zaya feel?! Secondly, and I know this is going to be difficult for you transphobes to understand, but, transgenderism doesn't "go against nature." Being trans, and transitioning are both healthy and natural manifestations of human diversity. Transindividuals are literally pushing us forward in terms of human evolution. Why the fukk would anyone want to undermine that?! I honestly don't know whether to cry or scream at this point. fukk this woman. Goddamn hellcat!! 🖕
 

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Gave all the settlement money to the cult and lost custody as a woman and here she is. Does she even have parental rights?
 

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Child getting puberty blockers at 12. hormones at 13.


Same child getting surgery at 16.
All paid for by Medicare.


Child is diagnosed autistic and the government paid to cut of his genitals at 16
Bet you that child lives on reddit.
 

paperbag

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You read my comment and responded with this?


Can you give this a try and report back with the results:




13 and 14 year Olds getting irreversible double mastectomy.

You said minors cannot get surgery. Will you admit you were wrong?
 
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