Eastern Conference Exec: "Kobe having only 1 MVP is a disgrace. It makes no sense...

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Honestly the fact that Shaq & Kobe only have 2 MVPs between them is a disgrace

They dominated the game for a good 15 years yet the great white hype Steve Nash has as many as both of them combined?? Really ? 2 of the top 5 players to ever breathe are on the same level as Steve fukkin Nash??:what:
 

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that second Nash mvp was a team that lost joe Johnson to Atlanta and amare for virtually the whole year and still won 50+ games. It wasn't exact a stacked team exactly. Not to say Kobe was a legitimate candidate.

Shaq having just one looks funny on paper as well.
 

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Kobe is a great player but his best years his teams sucked. That's the thing about Kobe, the more he gets off the worst his team does. That's not an MVP IMO. If anything, that's MDP (most detrimental player).

Why should he have more MVP's? His best statistical years his teams weren't doing shyt because he's not a good team player. How valuable can you be going for delf, putting up big numbers for yourself but your team is getting bounced in the first or missing the playoffs altogether?

If anything, maybe he should have 2 but IDK what year the 2nd one would have came in. Can't argue with Nash getting it over him when Nash's team put Kobe's out in the first fukking round. If he was truly the most valuable player he would have taken his team further.
 

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It's also wild that he also only has 2 scoring titles...he's arguably the greatest scorer ever.
 

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Kobe is a great player but his best years his teams sucked. That's the thing about Kobe, the more he gets off the worst his team does. That's not an MVP IMO. If anything, that's MDP (most detrimental player).

Why should he have more MVP's? His best statistical years his teams weren't doing shyt because he's not a good team player. How valuable can you be going for delf, putting up big numbers for yourself but your team is getting bounced in the first or missing the playoffs altogether?

If anything, maybe he should have 2 but IDK what year the 2nd one would have came in. Can't argue with Nash getting it over him when Nash's team put Kobe's out in the first fukking round. If he was truly the most valuable player he would have taken his team further.

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Kobe is a great player but his best years his teams sucked. That's the thing about Kobe, the more he gets off the worst his team does. That's not an MVP IMO. If anything, that's MDP (most detrimental player).

Why should he have more MVP's? His best statistical years his teams weren't doing shyt because he's not a good team player. How valuable can you be going for delf, putting up big numbers for yourself but your team is getting bounced in the first or missing the playoffs altogether?

If anything, maybe he should have 2 but IDK what year the 2nd one would have came in. Can't argue with Nash getting it over him when Nash's team put Kobe's out in the first fukking round. If he was truly the most valuable player he would have taken his team further.

The way I see it Bean is even lucky he has one. The one he got in'07 was on some pity, lifetime achievement shyt
 

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The MVP is more of a team accomplishment than anything else.

You can be the best player in the NBA and dominate every single night like no other player, but if your teammates suck you aren't winning it. That's why the award is a joke.
 

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MVP's a popularity contest. Who has the best story. Point blank. Nash wasn't the best player in 2006, Kobe was. Kobe was putting up 35ppg, outscoring entire teams at will. Nash's team didn't have the best record that year either, Detroit did. You could make the argument that Chauncey Billups should've got the MVP instead because he had similar numbers to Nash & 10 more wins (and the #1 record) to go along with it.


Detroit, 64-18 (2005-06 season)
18ppg, 8ast, 3rbs, 2tos (C. Billups)

Phoenix, 54-28 (2005-06 season)
18ppg, 10ast, 4rbs, 3.5tos (S. Nash)



shyt's a popularity contest. Nash was this scruffy white guy running an exciting offense and doing it without Amare, so people ate the story up. As if he was playing with bums out there. As if Shawn Marion wasn't a problem, and as if that offense wasn't sculpted to suit Nash's skillset & trackstars like Barbosa, Bell & Diaw. Nash wasn't putting up 11, 12 assists a game before he played for PHX and he not doing it now in LA. He flourished in that offense. Also, Duncan had a good year in 06 (SAS was one game behind Detroit) and Wade & the Heat obviously had a good year & the 2nd spot in the East.


If you wanna say Kobe aint deserve it in 2006, that's fine. Your point is valid.....but, I can give you several reasons why Nash aint deserve it either :manny:
 

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The way I see it Bean is even lucky he has one. The one he got in'07 was on some pity, lifetime achievement shyt

A lot of people felt young Chris Paul should have won it that year. Not saying Kobe wasn't in the discussion but yeah I think "pity" definitely played a part in it.
 

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You could make a stronger arument that Kobe didn't deserve the 1 mvp that he has won. Lebron was more valuable that year, so was Chris Paul.
 

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if we gonna discredit nash because he played in a system. let's take away jordans mvps since he played in the triangle. or karl malones since he was in a strictly pick n roll system. im curious though. why haven't more point guards won this award? you could make an argument for jason kidd nets, cp3 hornets, heck even tony parker is an mvp candidate this year. but probably wont win it.
 
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