Eboni K. Williams interviewed by The Breakfast Club defends her bus driver comments

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I didnt understand why this was such a big deal.. I didnt even know who this was and why what a washed chick want even matters..

Then I see the book on table and it all makes sense.. :salute: cant knock the hustle
Thats the point. She was never a practicing attorney she was a legal analyst. No one gives a fukk about her ooinion on the proud boys verdict or Clarence Thomas's gift scandal so shes delving into the easy lick talking about Black womens dating challenges.

If she said " I date out" she couldnt get a bag because the sheas would assume shes blissfully happy. She cant admit to failing over the fence hence the concern trolling.
 

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This Hoe is goofy. Men wit money get a trophy wife that don’t do shyt. Men wit money don’t give a fukk what a goofy bit beaked Hoe do for a living unless she bad af and he wanna fukk. This hoe average af prolly got no ass out here making demands. bytch also wanna be in comtrol I’m sure in her relationship so how u gonna be in control unless she get a “bus driver type nikka” because bytch a boss type nikka not gonna give a fukk about u, yo money or yo corny ass social status u goofy bytch. Like I said most rich mf got a stay at home trophy wife. Keep the wife at home doing the soccer mom shot while he handles his bizness and writes off prostitutes as bizness expenses. Didn’t this goofy Hoe watch wolf of walstreet???
Evny got more than twice her money easily and his wife does nothing but pop out kids for him
 

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She doesn't understand that not everybody wants to be an owner, entrepreneur, or 10 figure boss tyc00n. Somebody gotta be the worker bro and a lot of people are good with being the worker. She says she's not disrespecting people but what she's saying boils down to if you work the same job you've failed. You can't just be the bus driver, you have to be working towards owning the bus. That's not reality for the vast majority of people.

I think some black people have let the generational wealth conversation warp their brains into thinking anything less is a failure. In reality as long as you've taken care of your kids and put them in a position to go do their own thing you've done your job. People like Ebony don't see it that way. They think leaving your kid 80 rental properties or a business is the ONLY way to set your kids up for success. For all the talk about fighting white supremacy, all this talk about always moving up, not being satisfied working "mediocre"/"average" jobs is right out of the capitalism propaganda handbook and we know capitalism is a main root of white supremacy. :francis:
 

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same mediocre jobs that allowed these women to throw their cap in their air this upcoming weekend/month.

fukking pathetic lmaoooooo
This

My dad sells lumber and does it pretty well, he’s consistently the leading lumber salesman in his state.

My little sister is graduating her stem degree this month and often she seems to come off as kinda ungrateful and I’m usually playing mediator between him and all my siblings because they don’t see what I saw.

Or something they don’t understand yet.

As annoying as it can be sometimes, she wouldn’t have gotten as far as she has in the situations she grew up around if it wasn’t for him constantly being on her ass about school, hard work. and working the blue collared jobs he did to support her interests

He always worked.. most times dual jobs as he owned several side businesses in manual labor at one point.

This would be like her forgetting where she come from and shytting on the people (especially bm) who were in her corner because she got a degree and started making good money.

You don’t do that
 

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Women have collectivist tendencies, many studies show they have in group preference. Men dont operate like that so in these types of issues we will always come out on wrong side because you will have a group of men who will go against their own interest in hopes of getting on good terms with women. Even in our community, in THIS country, women think women first before even black, so they will collab with white women for their issues..
How come white women (or Asian or Hispanic) don’t collab with black women then.
 

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She doesn't understand that not everybody wants to be an owner, entrepreneur, or 10 figure boss tyc00n. Somebody gotta be the worker bro and a lot of people are good with being the worker. She says she's not disrespecting people but what she's saying boils down to if you work the same job you've failed. You can't just be the bus driver, you have to be working towards owning the bus. That's not reality for the vast majority of people.

I think some black people have let the generational wealth conversation warp their brains into thinking anything less is a failure. In reality as long as you've taken care of your kids and put them in a position to go do their own thing you've done your job. People like Ebony don't see it that way. They think leaving your kid 80 rental properties or a business is the ONLY way to set your kids up for success. For all the talk about fighting white supremacy, all this talk about always moving up, not being satisfied working "mediocre"/"average" jobs is right out of the capitalism propaganda handbook and we know capitalism is a main root of white supremacy. :francis:
Ironic that you mention this point in a breakfast club thread because I don't think people realize the impact that Dame Dash Breakfast Club interview had on black America

It's a classic interview and it's hilarious and informative and Dame was dropping a lot of gems, but that interview birthed the whole "If you ain't a boss you a bytch ass nikka" wave. That interview also birthed LLC Twitter and this wave of hip hop consultant gurus

Again that interview is great overall and black folks DO need to be more ownership/empowerment minded, but that interview threw gasoline on the "too many chiefs, not enough Indians" fire that's burning black folks today

That Dame interview is a prime example of the power of media and how drastically one man can change society with enough conviction and charismatic delivery
 

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Ironic that you mention this point in a breakfast club thread because I don't think people realize the impact that Dame Dash Breakfast Club interview had on black America

It's a classic interview and it's hilarious and informative and Dame was dropping a lot of gems, but that interview birthed the whole "If you ain't a boss you a bytch ass nikka" wave. That interview also birthed LLC Twitter and this wave of hip hop consultant gurus

Again that interview is great overall and black folks DO need to be more ownership/empowerment minded, but that interview threw gasoline on the "too many chiefs, not enough Indians" fire that's burning black folks today

That Dame interview is a prime example of the power of media and how drastically one man can change society with enough conviction and charismatic delivery
Mmhmm you’re right.
 

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Her preference is her preference
It's all the juelzing and pressed explanations after the original interview that got her looking crazy
This is a classic example of when "I said what I said" would be useful
Yeah.
Personally, I wouldn't date a woman who is a bus driver either. :yeshrug:
I'm not rich but I do make good money and would want someone who is making good money too
 

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Peep how she’s talking about “black Men” and what “black men offer” despite having relationships with cac men :mjlol:

I used to really dig her. Educated, smart, driven black woman. She really just an educated bird.

EDIT: Envy took her to court. Actually might be the most esteem I've had for Envy in his career.

Say nothing about her dating a white man, which I really don't care about if we being honest, but she herself tried to Juelz around the fact she wants a baller. Easily could've said I would date a bus driver who aspires to own the bus and there would be no conversation.

EDIT for my EDIT: Can't believe I listened to 40 minutes of this.

1 minute in - "We've got to have this conversation as black men and black women and the black family structure and black wealth building."

This is like Exhibit A where I say how I don't care who people date/marry just keep Black men/women out your mouth.

Her first husband was White and divorced her. She said in an interview she was so ashamed she kept it secret for a while. Her next White fiancee left her over whatever.

Why is she even giving relationship advice besides "don't do what I did"? I would argue even Black women dating White men shouldn't take advice from her.
 

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She doesn't understand that not everybody wants to be an owner, entrepreneur, or 10 figure boss tyc00n. Somebody gotta be the worker bro and a lot of people are good with being the worker. She says she's not disrespecting people but what she's saying boils down to if you work the same job you've failed. You can't just be the bus driver, you have to be working towards owning the bus. That's not reality for the vast majority of people.

I think some black people have let the generational wealth conversation warp their brains into thinking anything less is a failure. In reality as long as you've taken care of your kids and put them in a position to go do their own thing you've done your job. People like Ebony don't see it that way. They think leaving your kid 80 rental properties or a business is the ONLY way to set your kids up for success. For all the talk about fighting white supremacy, all this talk about always moving up, not being satisfied working "mediocre"/"average" jobs is right out of the capitalism propaganda handbook and we know capitalism is a main root of white supremacy. :francis:
This is 1000% facts.
Even before that, we had the "hustle and grind" "no days off" "no sleep" "paper chase" wave.
Young Black people were running around showing how much they were willing to torture and demean themselves for "success".
For example "Walk to Brooklyn and get me some cheesecake from Juniors. If you wanna be successful, you'll do whatever it takes".:takedat:
nikka, fukk you. How successful did they turn out to be?

It was the time where nikkas started putting CEO in their social media bio without a) being a CEO or b) knowing wtf a CEO was.
Human nature, economics and sociology all tell you that not everyone can be a captain of industry or even wants to be.
Not only that but if you're paying attention, you know that some of those high earning jobs a) follow you home and b) stress you out.
That's why the companies had to start selling "work/life balance" to prospective employees.

If we're all "CEOs" who's going to clean the toilet, who's gonna sweep the street, who's going to run the cash register?
And if nobody does, there's definitely a problem.
Often, you'll find that some of these blue collar service workers are fukking wizards at what they do.
On some "How did you do that?!?":gladbron: shyt

People like Eboni want to equate your title or occupation with your worth as a human being and life doesn't work that way.
It doesn't even work that way monetarily.
Some service workers will be sitting on a bundle of cash and you'd never know it.
I've seen it too many times. Even in my own family.
Like that old breh who was a parking lot attendant and was a millionaire on the low.
AND he didn't want to quit his job because HE LOVED HIS JOB.
 

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Yeah.
Personally, I wouldn't date a woman who is a bus driver either. :yeshrug:
I'm not rich but I do make good money and would want someone who is making good money too
Why not?
It's already been established that bus drivers are well paid with great benefit packages.
 
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This is like Exhibit A where I say how I don't care who people date/marry just keep Black men/women out your mouth.

Her first husband was White and divorced her. She said in an interview she was so ashamed she kept it secret for a while. Her next White fiancee left her over whatever.

Why is she even giving relationship advice besides "don't do what I did"? I would argue even Black women dating White men shouldn't take advice from her.
I'm not even of the mindset that you can't be problack and date interracially, there's plenty of historical figures who have. But she's coming at it entirely wrong, like black men are scrubs if they don't have x, y, and z...it's masked in fancier verbiage, but the optics come off like she's with white men because they own the proverbial "bus", and then has the nerve to say black people [men] are the lowest on the totem pole. With all her education, she doesn't realize that she's telegraphing why she chases after white men. Not just white men, but rich white men. Makes her look like the worst kind of goldigger.

She easily could have said, I "could" date someone who has "x" but has the ambition and drive to do "y". There would be no convo. I think this is why so many dudes are getting fed up with dating, because there's unrealistic barriers to entry for decent dudes, and all too often once you get on your track then people want to come along for the ride once you have everything. That brews resentment.
 
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This is very important why black people need to stop listening to these celebrities and actually look in the mirror

Not everyone is going to be the business owner, executive, supervisor of they own business or a company they working for..

Just sit back and u see online how people are selling cheap jewelry, trying to give advice and then go their social media page and now they all of a sudden business owners/consultants and also still work day to day jobs for a check like many of us… but at the same time they will tell u they are business owners because they sell cheap online jewelry or so called consultants because they have a YouTube page just giving advice..

Black people today are ashamed and even put down regular 9-5 folks making a decent living and is satisfied
 

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I'm not even of the mindset that you can't be problack and date interracially, there's plenty of historical figures who have.

I agree with this 100%. I know mixed couples that ride hard for us. I mean dating out and talking down on Black people. That is what I am against.
 
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