Eboni K. Williams interviewed by The Breakfast Club defends her bus driver comments

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Y’all can apply for an FHA loan and buy a house. Now you just gave yourself & your children 200k-300K.

Or you buy one before marriage, then buy one after marriage.

Spending will decline.

A husband will put into place a budget, plan to save for things, make sure life insurance and retirements are in place.

I haven't met a woman who said that they had a life insurance policy or anybody that they are the owner of themselves, even their own kids.

I always ask, "how are you going to bury your parents" the answer they tell me never fails.

"oh, i think they have one, I don't know"

Lol smh.
 
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It depends on what you define as "winning". Marjorie is a trophy wife. Eboni is a lawyer and media personality. Nothing about Eboni seems that she is looking to be a trophy wife. She admits that she has masculine energy, that she's had to get it out the mud, and that she has very high standards. We don't know how deeply fulfilled any of them are, but both are on their own paths, which they are allowed to be.

Women, the same as men, are allowed to feel what they want. Yes, it's classist. But men talk shyt on women all day long and have made entire careers out of it. So, Eboni will be fine. People barely knew who she was last week. My bet is that she stays in this controversial lane because it's causing people to talk about her and will raise her profile. From everything I see about her, she will probably count this as a win. Every woman isn't looking to be saved.
I totally understand. And I agree that she seems like she probably isn’t looking to be a housewife per sè, but it does seem like she wants to be partnered with an equally as successful man. I think the disconnect is that highly successful or not, the attitude she is displaying isn’t necessarily attractive to men in general. Even men desiring to be in a power couple/not unite with a woman who is less successful seem to want a lady who doesn’t make it clear to the world his title/success is the MAIN characteristic that gets her attention.

And women are definitely allowed to feel how we want. I mentioned earlier that there are plenty of women with a similar profile who would never be with a bus driver, because a man with that profession couldn’t provide the lifestyle they want. But, part of being a woman, is understanding that we aren’t judged the same way as men when we express things.

Every answer given in the public eye doesn’t have to be completely honest or one the nose. This was one of those situations where you give some flowery response and pop up on the arm of some random millionaire the next time you attend an event. Especially when an older woman like Iyanla seems like she’s asking weird questions and trying to pin you in a corner.

The REAL point is how Iyanla came out looking like some sweet down to earth woman who has faded to the background in this situation and Eboni is in a position where she has to defend what she said.

Now, more publicity for her and her book- awesome look professionally.

But if a personal goal is to attract a man for a long-term relationship, the first thing he may be judging is how she comes across personality-wise, NOT her professional profile. Stuff like this interview may be a hindrance.

We can want what we want without literally telling the world exactly how we feel.
 

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It depends on what you define as "winning". Marjorie is a trophy wife. Eboni is a lawyer and media personality. Nothing about Eboni seems that she is looking to be a trophy wife. She admits that she has masculine energy, that she's had to get it out the mud, and that she has very high standards. We don't know how deeply fulfilled any of them are, but both are on their own paths, which they are allowed to be.

Women, the same as men, are allowed to feel what they want. Yes, it's classist. But men talk shyt on women all day long and have made entire careers out of it. So, Eboni will be fine. People barely knew who she was last week. My bet is that she stays in this controversial lane because it's causing people to talk about her and will raise her profile. From everything I see about her, she will probably count this as a win. Every woman isn't looking to be saved.
And I guess my real issue is that there are plenty of women of all races in the public eye who feel the way she does, but for some reason most of them seem to be self-aware and understand how society views a woman who literally says the quiet part out loud.

Iyanla knew she could trip Eboni up for the world to see and CORRECT her live on the internet. That is Iyanla’s BRAND and she basically gave her free promo.

Now ppl are digging up pics of her with white men while talking about betting on Black. Shyt just looks goofy.
 

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I didn't catch the clip they're referring too in this video, but I agree with her stance on this breakfast club interview. That my change if I ever come across the og video.
 

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I keep forgetting about this. That and I think her and her ex-husband were caught up in some scandal or some sort of fraud. I think there is a thread on it too. I'll see if I can find it.
Im pretty sure Eboni was never married
 

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And I guess my real issue is that there are plenty of women of all races in the public eye who feel the way she does, but for some reason most of them seem to be self-aware and understand how society views a woman who literally says the quiet part out loud.

Iyanla knew she could trip Eboni up for the world to see and CORRECT her live on the internet. That is Iyanla’s BRAND and she basically gave her free promo.

Now ppl are digging up pics of her with white men while talking about betting on Black. Shyt just looks goofy.
So if plenty of women feel this way why are they not saying it just to protect the feelings of ‘society’ (which really means men); when men are also going on every platform to scream about the type of women they find undesirable? It’s an all out protest about how they don’t want women with kids, over the age of 30, and over a size 6. So women should also be honest if this is the way they feel.

And yes she does come across as goofy, but she is crazy, arrogant, and classist. So I’m really not defending her per say, but more so calling out the hypocrisy of men who always want to finger point at women about what we should do to be more desirable (such as keep your mouth shut to be more feminine) while they are running around doing and saying whatever they want. Meanwhile marriage rates in the black community are the lowest they’ve ever been. So I would be careful about constantly consuming a narrative that men are a prize no matter what.

Which I think is the real reason men are so upset because she’s plainly stating the type of men she does not find valuable. However, when Kevin Samuel’s and others tell women they aren’t valuable due to x,y,z .. men are applauding women being put into their place. They should keep that same energy.
 

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So if plenty of women feel this way why are they not saying it just to protect the feelings of ‘society’ (which really means men); when men are also going on every platform to scream about the type of women they find undesirable? It’s an all out protest about how they don’t want women with kids, over the age of 30, and over a size 6. So women should also be honest if this is the way they feel.

And yes she does come across as goofy, but she is crazy, arrogant, and classist. So I’m really not defending her per say, but more so calling out the hypocrisy of men who always want to finger point at women about what we should do to be more desirable (such as keep your mouth shut to be more feminine) while they are running around doing and saying whatever they want. Meanwhile marriage rates in the black community are the lowest they’ve ever been. So I would be careful about constantly consuming a narrative that men are a prize no matter what.

Which I think is the real reason men are so upset because she’s plainly stating the type of men she does not find valuable. However, when Kevin Samuel’s and others tell women they aren’t valuable due to x,y,z .. men are applauding women being put into their place. They should keep that same energy.
I’d never say a man is the prize for simply being a man. I’m not that girl :skip:


What I’m ultimately stating is that a lot of women aren’t being strategic.

At the end of the day we don’t ask men out on dates.
We don’t propose to men.
We don’t knock men up and leave them to knock up someone else.

Part of women operating from a place of power is understanding WHEN our mere existence is enough to make the right kinda guy move mountains, and understanding how to communicate what we want and/or move a certain way to attract who we want.

Women are the ones who attract when it comes to the dance between the sexes. You can present yourself a certain way and attract the kind of man you want without having to STATE what type of man you want.

The women who know how to do that have no issue with men.

Again, like I’ve said, the people who speak the loudest are usually the ones who actually have the issue.

Women of all races want the same thing but other groups don’t literally say it out loud at ~40 because their mothers taught them to get cute and get sit in front of the right type of guys when they were 23. That’s the conversation Black women need to have with their mothers. Most of the women I know who are married to successful brehs locked in in their teens and 20s.
OR, they are attractive and have good attitudes so they are still getting chosen by men in their 40s (I mentioned a high profile BW in her 50s who is dating a HIGHLY successful breh in my family who was interested in dating a successful woman in his age range).

I will totally admit that when I was just getting out of college no one gave a damn about what I studied, where I went, if I had money, my pedigree. Because that’s the power of being young and attractive. And that’s when we’re supposed to make the most demands. But you don’t know that when you’re 22 in college. That’s what your mom and dad are supposed to teach you. All the 22YO guys around you know that, though. And they also know it when they turn 30 and can possibly chase the girls in their 20s who know the game. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Personally, I’m an advocate of dating a little older and working on the things that immediately catch a man’s attention- looks and attitude. It’s a formula that really can’t fail. And plenty of women less successful than Eboni have had no issue snagging those men by following that simple formula.

Shyt, a man in my family has his wife living in a damn near million dollar house and I can’t even tell if the chick finished HS she seems so dense. But she knew enough to focus in on him and lock him down before he realized what he was dealing with 🤣

I’m not saying there shouldn’t be more successful brehs available. I’m saying that either paying attention to the ones with promise while we’re young or dating out while younger in pursuit of those types of guys is what should be the focus of BW.

The same way you see some brehs who switch it up and date Becky when they get on is the same way young beautiful Black women can keep their mouths closed and open their serious dating options to the most successful men who approach them. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Actions speak louder than words.

All Eboni had to do was pop up with a successful man of whatever race and keep it pushing.
Hell, that’s what Tamron Hall did 🤷🏾‍♀️. And brehs couldn’t say anything because she didn’t say anything about the available men. She just popped up married and pregnant 🤣
 

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So if plenty of women feel this way why are they not saying it just to protect the feelings of ‘society’ (which really means men); when men are also going on every platform to scream about the type of women they find undesirable? It’s an all out protest about how they don’t want women with kids, over the age of 30, and over a size 6. So women should also be honest if this is the way they feel.

And yes she does come across as goofy, but she is crazy, arrogant, and classist. So I’m really not defending her per say, but more so calling out the hypocrisy of men who always want to finger point at women about what we should do to be more desirable (such as keep your mouth shut to be more feminine) while they are running around doing and saying whatever they want. Meanwhile marriage rates in the black community are the lowest they’ve ever been. So I would be careful about constantly consuming a narrative that men are a prize no matter what.

Which I think is the real reason men are so upset because she’s plainly stating the type of men she does not find valuable. However, when Kevin Samuel’s and others tell women they aren’t valuable due to x,y,z .. men are applauding women being put into their place. They should keep that same energy.
You’re absolutely right.

Here’s the deal though. The man yelling about not wanting a woman over a certain age, baby momma, etc- if he’s got his $ right he can approach a bunch of women and still have ladies who want to be with him.

A woman who might not have as much of what men find appealing (youth and beauty) can state everything she has a problem with. But unless she wants to stop dating men altogether, the point is she’s still going to want men to approach her.
You catch more flies with honey. And we are the ones who are supposed to attract the opposites sex, so it isn’t strategic to lay it all out like a man would.

That’s all. You can say all this and the man with money who was interested in you could be like “eh, forget” and now you aren’t getting the approaches from the men you want. When you could’ve been strategic and no men- rich or not- would know what was floating in your head.

It’s just game 🤷🏾‍♀️
 

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I thinkt that convo needs to be talked about. These teachers, lab nurses, nurses assistants, under 45k-50k job salaries is not going to build wealth, especially if you have kids.
2 incomes combined with a husband or wife may get you to a comfortable place than one
They not trying to hear that.:francis:

Bus drivers in the DMV out here with $50-100k salaries but they called broke bums.

Meanwhile the joints saying this are topped out GS-7/9 IRS admin assistants and the like.
 
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