Eli manning hall of fame

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So you just gonna ignore his career basically looking like Joe Flacco?

We good.
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I don’t understand your argument. You mention the defense carrying him to a super bowl twice. I ask you to look up the teams defensive ranking for his second super bowl season and you give me a a lazy response.

How about this, how many top 10 defenses has he had?

He’s top 10/20 in EVERY major regular season and playoff statistical category. He has 2 Super Bowl wins. Most playoff yards in a single postseason. I could go on and on about how his numbers match up with others. He doesn’t play in a dome/play in sunny weather. I’ve seen him play with guys literally off the street. Guys messing up routes. Guys being injured. I just don’t see how he’s not. And if you only watch highlights, it’s difficult to have a conversation with you.


Is Ben a hall of famer to you? I believe he had one of the worst super bowl performances for a winning QB. I just don’t get the Eli hate.
 

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eli was playing with Rashad Jennings,Andre Williams and Orleans Darkwa:russ:.

horrible offensive lines (comedic level). Shurmur is a horrible coach. I can go on and on but why bother if you don’t watch the games?
 

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I don’t understand your argument. You mention the defense carrying him to a super bowl twice. I ask you to look up the teams defensive ranking for his second super bowl season and you give me a a lazy response.

How about this, how many top 10 defenses has he had?

He’s top 10/20 in EVERY major regular season and playoff statistical category. He has 2 Super Bowl wins. Most playoff yards in a single postseason. I could go on and on about how his numbers match up with others. He doesn’t play in a dome/play in sunny weather. I’ve seen him play with guys literally off the street. Guys messing up routes. Guys being injured. I just don’t see how he’s not. And if you only watch highlights, it’s difficult to have a conversation with you.


Is Ben a hall of famer to you? I believe he had one of the worst super bowl performances for a winning QB. I just don’t get the Eli hate.
Ok let's try to be reasonable here.

Let's start with the fact that yearly defensive ranking has no bearing on a defense getting hot for 3 games.

So taking the context of his entire career...because sample size is everything...when was Eli ever elite among his own contemporaries?

He never was.
 

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Ok let's try to be reasonable here.

Let's start with the fact that yearly defensive ranking has no bearing on a defense getting hot for 3 games.

So taking the context of his entire career...because sample size is everything...when was Eli ever elite among his own contemporaries?

He never was.

His second super bowl is what lead to him being the current record holder for (single) post season passing yards:heh:.

He’s the reason they won.

Every QB that you can mention had a better supporting cast than him (or played in a dome).
He’s been pretty unlucky tbh. And you’re comparing him to guys that will go down as THE GREATEST. Any guy you bring up is considered top 5 QB ever. Speaking of Flacco, let’s look at the defenses he’s had. 7 top ten defense (pts) in 11 seasons. Manning has had 2 in 14. Eli is a unique QB and I think he should be judged a bit differently than most.

Don’t even let me bring up the Steelers and their supporting casts.
 

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Then got to nerve to bring up Evan engram when he’s being used as an in-line blocker:russ: (and can’t stay healthy)

Odell who couldn’t stay healthy:russ:

Barkley who was running behind zombies :russ:
 
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