Elle magazine did an article on the black manosphere

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so no one is pointing out the fact that it's not white women's place to critique black males dating practices? :mjgrin:

as a matter of fact, in the article, there's a person who actually commented "i'm glad a non black woman is speaking on this", and "im glad a mainstream publication is speaking on this,"....if these are the kinds of people on this website, why is that shyt being posted here? :picard: lol

there are a lot of corny, goofy gameless nikkas listening to the manosphere. there are other cats who aren't as goofy, as with anything you have your good and your bad.

the issue seems to be women's ability to endlessly crusade and critique whilst dodging any sort of accoutnability, for being dishonest and raising the kinds of dudes who use terms like "high value male" "pair bonding" and "hypergamy".

this is a direct result of feminism and the rise of gynocentrism. bytches made their beds, now it's time to lay in them. :yeshrug:
 

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Solid critiques of the extreme aspects of the Black manosphere. I still think they have a right to voice their opinions and critiques of the Black community, Black women, and society as a whole. Black women and women in general have been offered that privilege for quite a while so of course someone like Kevin Samuels would be created out of it.
Many black manosphere content creators have content that doesn't just point the finger at black women.

Unfortunately, it's not about creating constructive dialogue. It's about views. Once they realized "Black women ain't shyt" videos is what gets views, they continued to make content that generates income.

Both men and women have sections of the internet carved out as "dating advice", "self-improvement", or "life coaches" that are really nothing more than echo chambers that ironically enough cause even more damage to both genders.
 

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No dudes frown on a woman who pretends to like him for a free meal, money, attention, etc

Pretty much this.

I personally no longer take a woman out to eat on a first date. I want to see her energy and attitude when we do activities that require little to no money. But still allow us to get to know one another and see if we get along.

There were a lot of chicks out here letting men take them to dinner knowing full well they weren’t feeling them like that, and then giving them the no spark speech when they got home with there belly full.

Now this doesn’t excuse men who think taking a woman out to dinner means they should get something in return. Thats just as lame. But covid got a lot of these cats thinking why they used to do certain things. When chicks were happy with meeting up and going for a walk or having a picnic at the park when everything was closed.
 

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so no one is pointing out the fact that it's not white women's place to critique black males dating practices? :mjgrin:

as a matter of fact, in the article, there's a person who actually commented "i'm glad a non black woman is speaking on this", and "im glad a mainstream publication is speaking on this,"....if these are the kinds of people on this website, why is that shyt being posted here? :picard: lol

there are a lot of corny, goofy gameless nikkas listening to the manosphere. there are other cats who aren't as goofy, as with anything you have your good and your bad.

the issue seems to be women's ability to endlessly crusade and critique whilst dodging any sort of accoutnability, for being dishonest and raising the kinds of dudes who use terms like "high value male" "pair bonding" and "hypergamy".

this is a direct result of feminism and the rise of gynocentrism. bytches made their beds, now it's time to lay in them. :yeshrug:

The author is black
 

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regardless, the spirit of what i said still stands.

if anything it's worse, because there's a multigenerational trend of black females going to white spaces to air out black men, and it's not called out.

it's inherently benedict arnoldish behavior.
 
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No dudes frown on a woman who pretends to like him for a free meal, money, attention, etc
True. There’s a lot I can unpack here but women ain’t the only ones using deception to get what they want. Let’s be real there. But I think if dating was more organic and online wasn’t a factor there would be less issues. People wouldn’t be as petty when it comes to ghosting because you actually had to physically holla at folks… not get on a app and swipe
 

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Read the whole thing, pretty reasonable article all in all. A lot of these black manosphere cats are c00ns.

If you have to use white supremacist tropes to attack the woman you were birthed out of, you are a c00n. Plain and simple

Say it again for the c00ns in the back.
 

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O great. Cacs chiming in on black spaces

The writer is actually a black woman.

Can still be a cac

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I wonder if this dude is responsible for some of the c00ns on here???
That eugenics “we need to breed out” rhetoric was something preached in the black womansphere by Krystalyn Karazin(or however you spell her name) long before the black manosphere took off. She and others were talking about aborting black male babies. People like FnF and Tommy S, maybe be disgusting c00n weirdos. But they didn’t start the fire. And that’s something that will be lost in this thread and in that Elle article. Black female “divestment” has always been the more acceptable and politically correct and accepted form of IR dating and marriage. Just because these weirdo Manosphere dudes are picking up steam, doesn’t mean that there wasn’t something that came before them. In the form of black women telling other black women that the key to black female survival is to seek non black partners.

:hubie:
 

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Yep

I almost fell into this trap back in HS, despite me pulling more than a few women (unintentionally). It takes more than a few (legit) books like The Book of Pook to pull yourself out that mindstate.

Same. I had plenty of girlfriends, plenty of long-term relationships. But I almost fell down the rabbit hole too, letting a few bad breakups and rejections almost turn me into one of these bitter jaded nikkas. I had to be real with myself. I have mostly a good dating history. I have nothing to really complain about. The few bad experiences I had....in truth, I fukked over just as many women over the years and that was just my karma :francis: there's probably a couple girls out there still holding onto to some bitterness from what I did to them. Once I realized that and how most of this Red Pill stuff was toxic poisonous nonsense (plus it being a gateway to white supremacist content), I got over it and got back to normal. There's still some value in not letting women get over on you and not being a simp but, the objective here is to never get to the point where you hate women.
 

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Read the whole thing, pretty reasonable article all in all. A lot of these black manosphere cats are c00ns.

If you have to use white supremacist tropes to attack the woman you were birthed out of, you are a c00n. Plain and simple
The point many in here are making, is that we already know those dudes are c00n weirdos. This isn’t lost on anyone who’s listened to 3 seconds or Fresh N Fit. But what many of us are saying is, the same c00n rhetoric that we see in the Manosphere, has been preached in these internet womanspheres for more than a decade before Kevin Samuels popped up on the scene. The only reason why these battle of the sexes “spheres” are gaining any steam in magazines like Elle, is because of their fear of wayward black male ideology negatively influencing young men. In which this general concern is understandable. But it’s hardly one sided, and the other side of it has never been discussed at length, because there’s always a “viable” excuse given for Black female anger towards black men, black male dating, and marriage to black men. There’s been books written about it, movies written about it, magazine articles, etc. Black American men are examined with a fine tooth comb. And the same negative statistics that are parroted about relationships with black men in these womansphere blogs, ABC news segments, and women’s magazine articles, come from the same government stats that the Manosphere uses against black women. Basically half truths and confirmation bias goggles. But only one side is given legitimacy.

:hubie:
 

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Same. I had plenty of girlfriends, plenty of long-term relationships. But I almost fell down the rabbit hole too, letting a few bad breakups and rejections almost turn me into one of these bitter jaded nikkas. I had to be real with myself. I have mostly a good dating history. I have nothing to really complain about. The few bad experiences I had....in truth, I fukked over just as many women over the years and that was just my karma :francis: there's probably a couple girls out there still holding onto to some bitterness from what I did to them. Once I realized that and how most of this Red Pill stuff was toxic poisonous nonsense (plus it being a gateway to white supremacist content), I got over it and got back to normal. There's still some value in not letting women get over on you and not being a simp but, the objective here is to never get to the point where you hate women.

I only seek info that talks about body language, specific words, and tone of voice when it comes to RAW ATTRACTION to a woman. As in, solutions to get women successfully. The Red Pill, outside of historic content, is worthless and not seek solutions to solve current problems. No other generation before us had to deal with the monster of social media and parody-like images of (black) masculinity, so it was a lot harder to navigate.
 
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