Elle magazine did an article on the black manosphere

[NZA]

I used to participate on Roosh’s site and Return of Kings before they went full alt-right, pro-Putin, then pro-Trump during the Obama era.

Amazing to see how far the manosphere stuff has come in terms of influencing real world politics. Putting a Black face on it is just modern grifting though. The white manosphere that this stuff trickles off of is geared towards young white men who view Black men in an extremely negative light.

reminds me of roissey's PUA blog. went from trying to get laid to full blown nazism

 

[beenz]

Pretty much this.

I personally no longer take a woman out to eat on a first date. I want to see her energy and attitude when we do activities that require little to no money. But still allow us to get to know one another and see if we get along.

There were a lot of chicks out here letting men take them to dinner knowing full well they weren’t feeling them like that, and then giving them the no spark speech when they got home with there belly full.

Now this doesn’t excuse men who think taking a woman out to dinner means they should get something in return. Thats just as lame. But covid got a lot of these cats thinking why they used to do certain things. When chicks were happy with meeting up and going for a walk or having a picnic at the park when everything was closed.

going out to a meal is a no-go these days. too many broads take advantage. and I've never had any black woman offer to pay or even go dutch. so it's simply me using my resources while they have no skin in the game.

 

[Scaaar]

It’s never been a better time to be a western woman tbh. I know Brehs think that the manosphere rhetoric makes us accountable and makes us step our game up but it really hasn’t accomplished that in the majority of women. I think it’s backfiring in that respect, but on the opposite end it is working in getting more men who do struggle with women invested in it, because they can vent and get together with other Brehs.

On a larger level I think both groups aren’t satisfied with dating dynamics but I do think women benefit more (in respect to dating) these days than men.

I do hope that one day both sexes can reach a point where both groups don’t feel threatened or extremely frustrated with each other.

Women have always had it slanted in their favor when it come to dating in my opinion but that's because you're typically being pursued. The real problem in my opinion is people are slowly losing social skills due to us being so connected. Some people just don't know how to interact with the same sex much less the opposite one. Also being so connected has everyone feeling that they have unlimited options because they see people they truly don't know on social media.

 

[BeeCityRoller]

The manosphere calls out the lame dudes that just hate women and don't have social skills.
Fresh and fit got called out for what they said about black women. It really comes down to a lot of women not wanting men to self improve because that means they have to self improve

The Black Manosphere August 2021: Goes after Myron Gaines because he tried to pressure Anna Quinn for sex in exchange for an interview
Black Manosphere haters: "Y'all only defended her because she was white"
The Black Manosphere January 2022: Goes after Fresh Fit for past comments regarding dating black women and colorism
Black Manosphere haters: ...

 

[Wiseborn]

100% correct

People don't really love being told about themselves, especially when it challenges their worldview. Articles like this are just a lazy attempt to demonize the other side so they can invalidate any and all rational points the other side is making and feel right. It's a hit piece basically.

Both men and women stand to learn something from actually listening to what each other are saying. The manosphere is the only semi-mainstream attempt for men to do so, but certain women and men really don't like to hear it

The only reason I listen to shea butta content is because it challenges my world view. If you can say something that makes me think about what I believe that's a good communicator.

I shyt on sheas but I understand their underlying point. If someone is oppressed then we all are oppressed. In theory that's right but in reality everyone has a spectrum of priveliege and negatives.

For example that nikka Rolling Ray is a gay Black dude in a wheelchair but he's clouted and he lives in the "greatest" country in the world be a gay disabled minority in Russia and see how that works out for you.

I want freedom, I don't understand how a nikka like that can dress as a woman but not be trans but someone else can be trans and not even attempt to present as the gender that they claim to be, fukk I don't understand gay shyt in totality but a nikka should be allowed to do what they want in the comfort of their own home and community.

Where they lose me is when they tell me I gotta accept someone's delusions or get "canceled". They have the freedom to live their lives and I have the freedom to live mines.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Black male positivity been hijacked by red pillers, MGTOW, and incels years ago though. To not know that or not admit that is intellectually dishonest.

 

[Wiseborn]

I skimmed the article. my only question is what is the purpose of a zoom date?

that's no different that a facetime call.

exactly it wasn't a "date" at all.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

People are social media introverted now a days.

About 6 mths ago I was in the airport with my lady and kids prior to her flight out of town. The misses noticed this girl was on grinning ear to ear while texting and said "why don't they just call each other". So we saw her take a selfie...and the texting continued.

About 20min later this Bruh walked up to her smiling and said her name. Apparently it was the guy she was texting. He had just got off a flight and when she sent the selfie he realized he had just walked by that spot so he doubled back.

She legit had a stank face when he rolled up and spoke. He picked up on it quickly and was like "when I said I wish we could talk face to face and you agreed I realized I just walked by you. I figured we could enjoy each other's company until you boarded your flight. " She continued to be standoffish so he left.

She turned to my lady and was like "who does that...we just texting right now...we in a texting phase....that was stalkerish". My lady nodded and just smiled and we started talking with the kids.

I told my girl " I bet you he won't respond to her text anymore. " Her and that girl ended up in the security line together and she said the girl said "now he in his feelings and not responding... he's weak for that".

My girl was like " what went wrong with dating that a man wanting to see you face to face was frowned on. You know she got right on Tinder after that. I don't get it...she said the guy was well dressed, polite and handsome but that was inconsiderate for him to approach her before they went on a date."

shyt like that let me know I am no longer built for this current dating style. It made me step my shyt up more with my lady...fukk them streets

Wow
If handsome gang get done like that
Struggling nikkas stand no chance

Sounds like mental illness

 

[Chip Skylark]

Tbh it is a very real thing and I’ve been noticing all that white boy incel shyt penetrating black community too


3 years ago I promise I never heard a black man (outside the coli ) say any of that Xpill or alpha male shyt

Bro this is true. All these men and women who have sexual pinned up frustration who aren’t dating the men and women they think they deserve are really extreme mental cases in my opinion.

reading some of the things I’ve seen thanks to this site has been crazy

 

[Crayola Coyote]

Problem is, the OGs need to humble themselves and teach game to black men again without charging them money. Thats the only way to effectively end the simping epidemic.

“The game is to be sold not told.” No they don’t need to humble themselves, They are doing just fine. Average dudes don’t want to learn anything just short cuts and cheat codes that’s why they get caught up

 

[Crayola Coyote]

Wow
If handsome gang get done like that
Struggling nikkas stand no chance

Sounds like mental illness

nah that bytch just wanted to use him for attention. Her dumbass is gonna be on tinder for a long ass time. I been around women like that that tell you “you shouldn’t do XYZ with a woman like that” I tell them to shut up they absolutely do not know how to deal with women and ghost.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

Damn. Article more or less summed up what many of us already think and know about the men who take part in the manosphere. A lot of them Brehs with those type of platforms are average/invisible to women or ugly gang. Yeah I said it. You won’t see a handsome Breh that gets women invested in this shyt. It just is what it is.


What is a bit embarrassing about this being exposed in a mainstream magazine, is then seeing that long ass Kevin Samuels thread on this site full of the very Brehs the article is talking about. Some of y’all going out sad.

People underestimate a good personality too carmel

Alot of them dudes even with better looks would struggle wit women with no personality

Women look at personality as part of looks

There been men on this site women thought was attractive that had a low body count cause they didnt kno how to talk to women


I seen too many avg or below avg dudes with good looking women for that reason

Its more women who are less shallow than manosphere think

Some women will always be looks first but its alot who dont care as much about that as long as u vibe with them

 

[InkosiYe]

The only reason I listen to shea butta content is because it challenges my world view. If you can say something that makes me think about what I believe that's a good communicator.

I shyt on sheas but I understand their underlying point. If someone is oppressed then we all are oppressed. In theory that's right but in reality everyone has a spectrum of priveliege and negatives.

Agreed 100%, this is how I try to live life. A lot of people like being stuck in their echo chambers whether it's feminism, black feminism, red pill, blue pill, mgtow, shea butter, conservative, liberal, lgbt etc.

It doesn't always feel great to find out that you're completely wrong about something, but you can choose to learn and become a better person because of it. Most people aren't on that wave though.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

That's good and all but again it's not our place to tell them to grow up.

When a significant amount of women are acting like children, it affects society. We tell men that act childish to grow up all the time. Women are adults, they get the same treatment.

If they're childish and immature then they're not suitable dating candidate. Just bush and keep it pushing.

I agree with this. However, we men should tell them this. We have to call out their BS. Not for a woman's sake but for our own sake.

Once we stop giving them any attention at all they'll adjust to what's necessary to get the attention back. It's in their nature to do so.

Women also adjust to criticism as well. I'm seeing this with my own eyes.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

It’s never been a better time to be a western woman tbh.

Of course, it is to a certain extent. Today's western woman is an entitled brat, spouting off: "Body Positivity", "Street Harassment", "Patriarchy", "Slut Shaming", "Me Too" etc. First world problem if I've ever heard them.

I know Brehs think that the manosphere rhetoric makes us accountable and makes us step our game up but it really hasn’t accomplished that in the majority of women.

Oh, it's working to a certain extent. That Elle magazine article is nothing more than a hit dog hollering. Look at how the complaints about how woke culture has infested the entertainment medium (Hollywood, Comic Books etc) and now more people aren't consuming entertainment media. One of the first steps in solving a problem is actually acknowledging (saying) that there's a problem.

I think it’s backfiring in that respect, but on the opposite end it is working in getting more men who do struggle with women invested in it, because they can vent and get together with other Brehs.

On a larger level I think both groups aren’t satisfied with dating dynamics but I do think women benefit more (in respect to dating) these days than men.

Women have always benefited when it comes to dating.

I do hope that one day both sexes can reach a point where both groups don’t feel threatened or extremely frustrated with each other.

Believe it or not, me too