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One pet peeve of mine is not looking deeper in the numbers when people throw out how Jokic’s advance stats make him MVP. There are two things I hate about the advanced stats. One is that it definitely favors playmakers on teams lacking other playmakers. I used to say the same about Lebron based teams. So much of the offense is based around them that when they sit, if you don't have another great individual playmaker that can run an the offense dies which does wonders for the on court/off court splits which are the foundation for a lot of these advanced stats that are thrown out there. The second point ties into that in that if you have a shytty backup again it makes sense that when a player of much lesser quality replaces the star the team doesn't look near as good. Embiid had Drummond backing him up which hurts him in a lot of advanced stats because while there is a fall off there wasn't nearly as dramatic of a fall off compared to what Jokic and Giannis had backing them up most of the season.
With that said Jokic's efficiency stats can't be denied. While PER is a flawed stat IMO what Jokic is doing compared to league history can't be ignored. What he's doing from the center position is unprecedented from a playmaking perspective. He's carrying the offense on his back and has won the Nuggets a lot of games down the stretch of games. That can't be denied. So I'm basically at the point of not caring who wins as they all have been beasts this year.
You seem to have a habit of doing this, and yet whenever you're contested over it, you never seem to have an answer.
Why is it a "pet peeve" of yours that folks use advanced stats without looking deeper into the numbers, particularly in the context of the awarding of MVP, when advanced stats have only been used in recent years in MVP campaigns, whereas box score numbers have been used in every single MVP campaign since the award existed, yet you don't have the same energy with folks using box score stats without looking deeper into them? Why is it suddenly a problem with advanced stats and not box score stats? Why is it suddenly a problem advanced stats aren't looked into deeper when MVP has never been about looking deeper into the numbers? MVP has never been about looking deeper into anything, it's only ever been about looking at players' performance on the surface; it's only ever been about generic narratives that play off sensationalism, and not an objective detailed examination. Furthermore, you bring up PER not realising that PER is essentially a box-score-stats-in-one metric, so if that's flawed, than so are box score stats, and yet again, you still don't have the same energy when every MVP ever has been awarded on the basis of those
flawed stats.
Oh, don't worry, I don't expect you to reply to this, I just wanted to point out the absurdity of your logic, for about the 1000th time. We all know, well, I know why you have a problem with advanced stats, and trying to cover up with guise of context isn't fooling anyone, well, it's not fooling me.
You can fool the rest of the world long as New York know. Word to Cameron Ezike Giles.
