"Eminem has experienced more racism than 99% of black Americans"

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Cac suspicions confirmed. :francis:

Once again, The concept of "white privilege" ASSUMES racism without evidence

1. You're wrong
2. Create a coherent response and stop parroting buzz words . . because facts don't care about your feelings or your identity issue
 
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"White privilege" is a buzz word

It's reverse racism in the highest order. To accuse someone without any evidence of wrongdoing outside of the color of their skin. That's racism.

What is white privilege? The color of band-aids matching their skin tone instead of ours?

Furthermore. We are all against racism and most white people are against it to but if you fail to point out a specific incidence of racism than you are serving no purpose. You need to highlight a specific incident, otherwise you're just talking. Statistical disparity doesn't always indicate racism. Example. A majority of the NBA is black.. There's very few 5 foot 9 jews in the NBA, that doesn't mean the NBA has systematically prevented jews from playing in the league, it's not some anti-semitic conspiracy. In a free market meritocracy often rules . . specific instances of nepotism are easy to point out but well within people's rights

Despite the fact that NO STUDY shows that there is discrimination in the way that banks give out loans there is a widespread perception to the contrary and this led the federal government to create a subprime lending program specifically designated to give people with minority status and bad credit into houses they couldn't afford , this extended to low income individuals

So . . so far. "White privilege" means that if you're not in the white privilege class you have a BETTER chance of getting a loan

If you can prove discrimination you can sue banks for enough money to never work again

Discrimination in job performance? There's laws on the books that bar discrimination in hiring. There's a federal equal employment opportunity program. It has a program called ERACE - the Eradicating Racism and Colorism in Employment

How about college acceptance? Because of affirmative action an asian person has to score 230+ points over a black person on the SATs to get into the same college. Which means being black essentially gives you a head start in this capacity. You are not required to excel at the same level to get the same opportunity. These are affirmative action programs are specifically created to get ethnic minority students with lower scoring SAT scores into the building to create a mandated diversified environment

If a white kid scores 200 less than me but he grew up poor and I didn't there's no bonus points for him, so where's the privilege there?

How about police brutality? More white people die from police encounters than black people
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How about "Driving while black". More likely to be pulled over? The department of justice and the New Jersey attorney general did a study of how everyone drives. Blacks were 25% of all people speeding and 23% of all the people getting speeding tickets in New Jersey

In 1994 the Justice Department in many urban areas there's lower felony prosecution rates for blacks than for whites

If you do these three things you won't be permanently poor in the United States

1. Finish high school
2. Get a job
3. Don't get pregnant before you get married

Why is there more poverty in the black community? Single mother rate in the black community in 1960 was 20% and TODAY it is 70% - did racism triple in since the time where we made our greatest strides in civil rights?

This is true for everyone. White people who didn't finish high school , don't have a job and are pregnant out of wedlock are also more likely to be poor.

The fact that single motherhood is disproportionate in the black community doesn't mean whites are racist. It means something needs to change in our community. It starts with taking personal responsibility

The concept of "white privilege" ASSUMES racism without evidence

Nothing I'm saying is to contradict the obvious fact that racism has taken place in the history of this country but the notion that this is an ongoing issue effecting all aspects of life today and that we are somehow under the boot of white establishment doesn't serve us any good. This concept that we are somehow handicapped or at a disadvantage is only meant to further hold us back

Affirmative Action is a privilege . . the color of anyone's skin is not a privilege. The only privilege is for those select few elites invested in central banks

Facts don't care about your feelings. Take PERSONAL responsibility and stop being sheep





 

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You're right. There's no such thing as reverse racism. Racism is just racism, pure and simple

@DarianaGrande make a perfect example of this. I'm not white but by simply assuming that I'm white he doesn't have to respond to me . . because creating a coherent response without parroting buzz words would have him questioning a victim hood identity that's been instilled in him. How long has he been a member? I guarantee you if you go back to his 2013 posts he's not talking about "white privilege"
 

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Once again, The concept of "white privilege" ASSUMES racism without evidence

1. You're wrong
2. Create a coherent response and stop parroting buzz words . . because facts don't care about your feelings or your identity issue
reverse racism
Accuse me of parroting buzz words while using the most parroted buzz words cacs use Brehs
 

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Accuse me of parroting buzz words while using the most parroted buzz words cacs use Brehs

Great retort. It reminded me of this time I called someone an idiot in preschool and they said "I know you are but what am I" . . anyway

Cool, I'm glad we agree on the ground rules of our conversation. We will use no regurgitated phrases


It's interested you are so reluctant to back up "your" point of view *cough* sheep *cough* . . how many posts without a single instance cited?
 

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"White privilege" is a buzz word

It's reverse racism in the highest order. To accuse someone without any evidence of wrongdoing outside of the color of their skin. That's racism.

What is white privilege? The color of band-aids matching their skin tone instead of ours?

Furthermore. We are all against racism and most white people are against it to but if you fail to point out a specific incidence of racism than you are serving no purpose. You need to highlight a specific incident, otherwise you're just talking. Statistical disparity doesn't always indicate racism. Example. A majority of the NBA is black.. There's very few 5 foot 9 jews in the NBA, that doesn't mean the NBA has systematically prevented jews from playing in the league, it's not some anti-semitic conspiracy. In a free market meritocracy often rules . . specific instances of nepotism are easy to point out but well within people's rights

Despite the fact that NO STUDY shows that there is discrimination in the way that banks give out loans there is a widespread perception to the contrary and this led the federal government to create a subprime lending program specifically designated to give people with minority status and bad credit into houses they couldn't afford , this extended to low income individuals

So . . so far. "White privilege" means that if you're not in the white privilege class you have a BETTER chance of getting a loan

If you can prove discrimination you can sue banks for enough money to never work again

Discrimination in job performance? There's laws on the books that bar discrimination in hiring. There's a federal equal employment opportunity program. It has a program called ERACE - the Eradicating Racism and Colorism in Employment

How about college acceptance? Because of affirmative action an asian person has to score 230+ points over a black person on the SATs to get into the same college. Which means being black essentially gives you a head start in this capacity. You are not required to excel at the same level to get the same opportunity. These are affirmative action programs are specifically created to get ethnic minority students with lower scoring SAT scores into the building to create a mandated diversified environment

If a white kid scores 200 less than me but he grew up poor and I didn't there's no bonus points for him, so where's the privilege there?

How about police brutality? More white people die from police encounters than black people

police_shooting_by_race.0.png





How about "Driving while black". More likely to be pulled over? The department of justice and the New Jersey attorney general did a study of how everyone drives. Blacks were 25% of all people speeding and 23% of all the people getting speeding tickets in New Jersey

In 1994 the Justice Department in many urban areas there's lower felony prosecution rates for blacks than for whites

If you do these three things you won't be permanently poor in the United States

1. Finish high school
2. Get a job
3. Don't get pregnant before you get married

Why is there more poverty in the black community? Single mother rate in the black community in 1960 was 20% and TODAY it is 70% - did racism triple in since the time where we made our greatest strides in civil rights?

This is true for everyone. White people who didn't finish high school , don't have a job and are pregnant out of wedlock are also more likely to be poor.

The fact that single motherhood is disproportionate in the black community doesn't mean whites are racist. It means something needs to change in our community. It starts with taking personal responsibility

The concept of "white privilege" ASSUMES racism without evidence

Nothing I'm saying is to contradict the obvious fact that racism has taken place in the history of this country but the notion that this is an ongoing issue effecting all aspects of life today and that we are somehow under the boot of white establishment doesn't serve us any good. This concept that we are somehow handicapped or at a disadvantage is only meant to further hold us back

Affirmative Action is a privilege . . the color of anyone's skin is not a privilege. The only privilege is for those select few elites invested in central banks

Facts don't care about your feelings. Take PERSONAL responsibility and stop being sheep

go back to st0rmfr0nt :camby:
 

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go back to st0rmfr0nt :camby:
:rudy: you know who you're talking to? :stopitslime:

how about a coherent rebuttal. I gave you a lot to respond to and yet there isn't a SINGLE instance cited from you to point out this institutionalized "white privilege"
 

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:mjlol: eminem only made it because he's white. He hasn't experienced shyt in comparison to black Americans.

Cacs are the funniest :mjlol:
 

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White privilege is existing in a system that was built for your benefit since day 1. White privilege is when the worst oppression you face is other people telling you that you're benefiting from systems of oppression. It's not some magic that stops white individuals from bad experiences, but when was the last time being white hurt someone in a courtroom?
 

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"White privilege" is a buzz word

It's reverse racism in the highest order. To accuse someone without any evidence of wrongdoing outside of the color of their skin. That's racism.

Like I said, going on the defense automatically cuts you off from any understanding you could gleam from this conversation so please, lower your defenses for a second and listen.

Let's chill with the diagrams and scale the conversation back, since you're probably white and trying to defend your identity we can even remove the "white" and examine privilege on it's own and FIRST and foremost establish that acknowledging privilege whether it be your own or someone else's is NOT accusatory nor does having it mean that you did anything wrong.

Using myself as an example as a man, I have the privilege to be far less likely to be a victim of rape and sexual assault than any woman on this planet. It's just something that I don't have to worry about in my day to day life, it's a privilege....not a prize that removes any other hardships that I face, just something I don't have to deal with that other people do.

Did I do anything wrong? NO

Am I a bad guy because I unconsciously walk around not even considering the fact that I DON'T have to deal with this? NO

But when I take a step back, I can acknowledge that
I am privy to a life experience without the looming threat of someone twice my size and strength possibly trying to take advantage of me sexually. Same way I acknowledge that I don't have to worry about wheel chairs. I acknowledge that being of normal height allows me to not even think about the every day problems of people under 4 feet until I take a step outside of my personal experience. Well white people in this country are privy to a life experience of not having to be black.

Having that privilege doesn't make you a bad person or indicate any wrongdoing...the wrongdoing comes in when people who don't have said privileges are silenced when they try to express themselves just to protect a false sense of self that this system that we all grew up in has concocted for us.

You dig? It would be cool if you did but probably not...
 
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Like I said, going on the defense automatically cuts you off from any understanding you could gleam from this conversation so please, lower your defenses for a second and listen.

Let's chill with the diagrams and scale the conversation back, since you're probably white and trying to defend your identity we can even remove the "white" and examine privilege on it's own and FIRST and foremost establish that acknowledging privilege whether it be your own or someone else's is NOT accusatory nor does having it mean that you did anything wrong. The fact that you think that's what it means shows you that the conversation has started on the wrong foot.

Using myself as an example as a man, I have the privilege to be far less likely to be a victim of rape and sexual assault than any woman on this planet. And even if it were to happen (no homo) statistics show that men that do get raped are usually raped by another man rather than a woman. It's just something that I don't have to worry about in my day to day life, it's a privilege....not a prize that removes any other hardships that I face, just something I don't have to deal with that other people do.

Did I do any thing wrong? NO

Am I a bad guy because I unconsciously walk around not even considering the fact that I DON'T have to deal with this? NO

But when I take a step back, I can acknowledge that
I am privy to a life experience without the looming threat of someone twice my size and strength possibly trying to take advantage of me sexually. Same way I acknowledge that I don't have to worry about wheel chairs. I acknowledge that being of normal height allows me to not even think about the every day problems of people under 4 feet until I take a step outside of my personal experience. Well white people in this country are privy to a life experience of not having to be black.

Having that privilege doesn't make you a bad person or indicate any wrongdoing...the wrongdoing comes in when people who don't have said privileges are silenced when they try to express themselves just to protect a false sense of self that this system that we all grew up in has concocted for us.

You dig? It would be cool if you did but probably not...
No, I'm not white so you're starting this conversation on a false basis. I'm also not an Uncle Tom just because I don't share your creed.

Another instance of you being wrong, however I don't fault you because I would assume the same thing if assumptions could take the place of facts - more men are raped in America than woman.

More men are raped in the U.S. than woman, according to figures that include sexual abuse in prisons.

And as for only men being the perpetrators of rape. Another lie that we would assume to be true if we believe everything we're told


A telephone survey conducted in 2010 for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that 43.8% of lesbians reported having been raped, physically abused or stalked at some point by an intimate partner; of these, 67.4% reported the perpetrator or perpetrators as being exclusively female.


Nor did I say that "privileges" doesn't exist, but what I am questioning here is what do they amount to - and in this question I have found a reluctance from anyone here to provide a specific instance and it's very telling that you have to use a whole different subject to create an example of what privilege is.

My problem with the concept is that it instills in us that we are somehow handicapped or at a disadvantage, because of that, it is as a concept is only serving the purpose of holding us back

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Nor did I say that "privileges" doesn't exist, but what I am questioning here is what do they amount to - and in this question I have found a reluctance from anyone here to provide a specific instance and it's very telling that you have to use a whole different subject to create an example of what privilege is.

My problem with the concept is that it instills in us that we are somehow handicapped or at a disadvantage, because of that, it is as a concept is only serving the purpose of holding us back


I had to create an example of what privilege is because you said:

"White privilege" is a buzz word
It's reverse racism in the highest order. To accuse someone without any evidence of wrongdoing outside of the color of their skin. That's racism.

That's what you said verbatim homeboy.

None of the statistics you're posting mean shyt if you think that acknowledging white privilege is "reverse racism" (no such thing) of the highest order. Where did anybody flex racial superiority by acknowledging the fact that some people deal with issues that others don't have to think about?


You're providing charts and shyt in support for something you seemingly don't even understand. I figured maybe using examples that you might not identify with so closely would allow you to stop trying to defend your position and trying to win an argument.


And the privileges amount to in this instance...by Eminem's own admission being more marketable than other rappers of his ilk due to his skin color.
 
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I had to create an example of what privilege is because you said:



That's what you said verbatim homeboy.

None of the statistics you're posting mean shyt if you think that acknowledging white privilege is "reverse racism" (no such thing) of the highest order. Where did anybody flex racial superiority by acknowledging the fact that some people deal with issues that others don't have to think about?


You're providing charts and shyt in support for something you seemingly don't even understand. I figured maybe using examples that you might not identify with so closely would allow you to stop trying to defend your position and trying to win an argument.


And the privileges amount to in this instance...by Eminem's own admission being more marketable than other rappers of his ilk due to his skin color.
These character assessments you're making are off the mark, you're 0 for 3 right now. I don't identify with any of this . . I have a problem with YOU identifying with it. I have a problem with people perpetuating anything that fuels an inferiority complex. If you know anything about me you know that I'm the most impartial person there is, I can completely remove myself from a situation to give you an unobjectified point of view. With that said, I literally have you in my neg list from the last month because of a comment I made about Eminem being nothing more than a pop star,etc.

Back to the original subject . . yes, Eminem benefited from the color of his skin AFTER dealing with a whole bunch of adversity that most people will never understand unless they walk his path. Was he the only white rapper at the time? No.


Do marketing departments exist? Yes. Is that Eminem's fault? No. Once propelled into the mainstream by an investment from the top label in the world at the height of the music industry's reign, did he benefit from being white? Eminem being white helping him connect with the majority of the population of middle America is simply a matter of demographics. This only comes into play when a major label invested in him and marketed him toward those demographics. He wasn't the only white rapper

That's more of a "Major label push privilege" if you want to be accurate

but I'm not walking through life with one of these

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placing a sticker on everything to label what "privilege" someone has.


. . you know, there's privileges in all aspects of life, if you really want to look at it like that. I mean . .sure it's not like the great people of our civilization didn't come to prominence by overcoming adversity . . you know, rather than sitting around complaining about things

Just like I said earlier . . there's various segments of our culture that have their own cultural terms. These are subcultures. Hip-Hop is one of them. The only thing that can save Eminem from that is entering the mainstream realm and that happened when a multi-billion dollar conglomerate decided to invest in his brand

#WallyWisdom
 
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