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Drake has a lifetime rating of 76 on MC
Death Grips also has a 76
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stop with the apologies for marshall. he has enough backing already friends.
Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
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Drake has a lifetime rating of 76 on MC
Death Grips also has a 76
sooooo ???
stop with the apologies for marshall. he has enough backing already friends.
These are some of the worth hooks I've heard in life. holy fukk.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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the hooks are trash for the most part but both "Normal" and "Not Alike" are parodies. It is what it is. There was a clear choice there with both tracks
explain nice guy. that shyt was top 5 worst song I've heard this year.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Nobody can tell you what you think, they can give you a picture of what the general public of people who know music and are not stans are saying. And they can also help you filter out wackness and recommend dope shyt.
As I said there’s too much music and too little time, so I don’t know your beef with getting recommendations from the music nerd community. This might be a problem to if you only listen to one genre and only the commercial pop stars of it. But try 10 genres and mostly indie, it gets pretty hard very quick.
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Rayzah
I'm Everywhere you ain't never there
It’s eminem we talking about not some Indy talent. You know what you are going to get from him. That’s was why I said that. I don’t need anyone to tell me about a jay z or nas or kanye album I been listening to them for 20 years they deserve my 45-60 minuets to check out their album. But whatever
ArchStanton
All Star
at this review
Kamikaze is a tantrum disguised as a course correction. More depressingly, it’s a 45-year-old multi-millionaire screaming into the void hoping someone, anyone is listening.
On Eminem’s surprise tenth studio album, a long-simmering frustration finally boils over. From a purely technical standpoint, it’s breathtaking to behold the renewed MC rapping with tightened flows over crisp production, weaving in and out of pockets with near the same dexterity as he did nearly two decades ago. Unfortunately, the fabled technician fails to cure the malignant disease that’s been eating away at his career for almost a decade.
Kamikaze’s meta-experiment marvels at its self-awareness, but never takes a moment to reckon with the criticisms that birthed it into existence. Eminem lays so much of the blame of his artistic decline at the feet of his various critics -- the media, rappers, time -- he fails to realize his tactics have turned him into hip-hop’s Trump, a man preaching the “Make Rap Great Again” ideals of a past that never really existed.
The narrative of Eminem’s tenth studio album is an antagonistic rebuke of the media and their response to Revival. The argument could be made that if Em’s last project received favorable reviews, there would be no need for Kamikaze’s reactive existence. On album opener, “The Ringer,” Mathers spends the bulk of his time complaining about how “a journalist/ can get a mouthful of flesh/ and yes, I mean eating a penis/ 'Cause they been pannin' my album to death.” In short, Eminem yells “fake news” for almost six-minutes at anyone who dares to critique him, almost like the President he’s aptly named “Agent Orange.”
What makes Eminem’s takedown of the press in 2018 so much worse is that he’s done it with far more nuance in the past. Seventeen years ago, during his scene-stealing turn on JAY-Z's “Renegade," lyrics like “we as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is/ Or is he the latter, a gateway to escape?/ Media scapegoat who they can be mad at today” showed a level of self-awareness that he’s lost in 2018. Devoting an entire skit to one criticism from one review seems like a weird way for one of the best lyricists of his generation to spend his time.
At Eminem’s peak, he could lord his vision of “true hip-hop” -- lyrical precision, vivid storytelling, and blind loyalty to the genre’s past -- upon the masses. But as his dominance waned, so did the restrictive stylistic boundaries of the '90s and early 2000s that he cherished. The genre mutated past his singular vision and, throughout Kamikaze, he sounds like a man lost and bewildered in time. Marshall wags his hands like an old man griping at the kids from his metaphorical porch as he screams at and about Lil Yachty, lean, Lil Pump, AutoTune, Lil Xan, Drake, ghostwriters, and face tats.
The most telling part of Kamikaze is how Eminem deals with potential criticism from his peers like Tyler, the Creator and Joe Budden. In one of the album’s most offensive moments, Eminem falls back into his homophobic tendencies rapping, “Tyler create nothin', I see why you called yourself a f****t, bytch.” Next, he takes his Shady Records signee to task, spitting, “Somebody tell Budden before I snap, he better fasten it / Or have his body bag get zipped / The closest thing he's had to hits is smackin' bytches.” Never mind the fact that the hypocritical Mathers alludes to a past of domestic violence and raps about busting “her jaw with a Louisville Slugger” on the cringe-inducing “Normal.” So why this much vitriol for Joe Budden?
On a December episode of Everyday Struggle, Budden encapsulated the problem with Revival -- in particular, the topical advance track "Untouchable," and the album's cover image, which featured the rapper looking ashamed behind an American flag. “This seems disingenuous,” Budden said. “It doesn’t seem sincere. It seems like a ploy and a fukking gimmick to sell records, which I don’t think that you need... It seems like you are taking the very common water-cooler conversation today of racism.”
Budden’s words make songs like “The Ringer” that much harder to swallow when Em laments he’s watching his “fanbase shrink to thirds” as a result of him criticizing Trump. When Eminem finally admits he wishes he could “reword” some of his rhymes about the president and “say I empathize with the people this evil serpent/ sold the dream to that he's deserted,” it sounds like a mogul upset that his “message” messed with the profit margins.
The insidiousness of the white male ego is that it disguises its fixation on unchecked ownership behind a veneer of nostalgia. Eminem was once a titan of hip-hop, but he never owned it. AutoTune, non-sequiturs, and freewheeling flows are now all big parts of the language of modern rap -- which doesn't need to adhere to Em’s myopic view of the genre.
Kamikaze soars when Em forgoes shaming the present and decides to reckon with his past. “Stepping Stone” sees him shedding the facades of Eminem and Slim Shady and instead come to terms with the sins of Marshall Mathers. When Em raps, “One minute you're bodyin' shyt, but then your audience splits/ You can already sense the climate is startin' to shift / To these kids you no longer exist,” it’s a rare and needed moment of vulnerability. The world and rap might not need Eminem or Slim Shady anymore, but it could do with a little more Marshall.
This review has some interesting points, but seems to miss that the skits were making fun of himself. Yes, he devoted a skit to one review--that was the joke! It sailed right over this person's head.
I think there's a lot more nuance in The Ringer than what this review claims as well--only the tail end of it covered the media, not the bulk of the song.
It wasn't really to back Em though. This album deserves a 75 MC imo. More of a general critique on how critics tend to favor certain styles (genre mashing and high-art sensibilities) when it comes to rap
Maybe 2 or 3 Jay albums out of how many? Beyonce the rapper? Other examples??But when Jay drops something dope it’s 80+ , Drake is close to 80 as well. Beyoncé too, and any major I can think of
If I underestimated the scores (Drake) I can admit that, but the point still stands. Rap critics are not aligned with the general consumer. If Drake music is the soundtrack of a generation, then why is it lucky to break 75 on MC?
Because they know exactly what they're doing. These sites operate on ad revenue, what gets more clicks... Agendas...
An honest fair review of the first decent Eminem album in 10 years? Or a hit-piece that personally attacks the artist and omits most of the content to focus on an SJW hot button topic (calling Tyler a fakkit) or him dissing his critics (which apparently doesn't work both ways)?
Its being shared on here, mission accomplished
Jordan>>LeFrozen
It was written in the Bible
Same thing I was reading. It’s 2018, not 2000. Eminem and that shock value Homophobia won’t work well in this era
Rayzah
I'm Everywhere you ain't never there
I think these people honestly don’t know anything about hip hop, I think the clowns on here don’t either. Because the stuff that is being said to discredit this album is ridiculous.. People are clowning him for being who he always was but last album were clowning him for trying to grow up and talk about social issues. CTG said he hated woke em, Joe shyt on him for trying to speak on those things. So which is it, he needs to grow up or he needs to be slim shady?
Joe said he ain’t been talking about nothing but shyt on him for trying to talk about something just last year, but NOONE calls him out they just run with like sheep
Since 2000 Jays album with 80+ are Blueprint, TBA, AG and 4:44, the others do not deserve high scores imo. Drake has 3 albums around 80, Take Care, NWTS and If you’re reading this. Imo the others do not deserve dope ratings.
So your example is irrelevant for me, you might think Views, BP2 and Magna Carta are classics, that’s cool cause it’s your personal taste in hiphop. And I also get that you’d rather attack the system than just be comfortable with your opinion diverging I used to do that when I was a kid.
And personally I check after a few sites that I respect. In general it’s Pitchfork, Spin, Fantano and those. “New school” I might specifically check complex and those, bars, I’ll go to DEHH and HHDX(they tend to grossly overestimate all albums nowadays though, scale is between 4 and 5), indie rock and pop Gorilla vs Bear and on. Metacritic I use to find reviews and get early indications of what the word is. All in order to filter out mediocre shyt and find good shyt.
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