Eminem: Rap Star Or Pop Star?

[aRoMaN21]

"in his new song berzerk, that people are going berzerk about...."

Flawless execution.

ber·serk
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adjective
1.
violently or destructively frenzied; wild; crazed; deranged: He suddenly went berserk.
noun
2.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) Scandinavian Legend. . Also, ber·serk·er. an ancient Norse warrior who fought with frenzied rage in battle, possibly induced by eating hallucinogenic mushrooms.

 

[BrothaZay]

You're missing the point on some emotional shyt. I touched on this in another thread days ago. Eminem is a pop star, not a rap star. I know that this is a hard pill for a lot of melanin challenged folk to swallow, but black people don't feel Eminem's music like that. He simply doesn't get play on black radio, in black clubs, or in the street like that. Eminem's core audience has always been the pop crowd not the rap crowd and he's embraced that. That's why he and his team don't even send records to urban radio anymore. The rap crowd saw dude as a novelty and fell back over 10 years ago.

Now cats like Wayne, Drake, Kanye, ad Jay are pop stars too, but they're also still rap stars because their music still resonates with the rap/urban/black audiences. You can't be in a black(urban) hiphop environment where music is being played and not hear those guys.

black people dont feel Nas like that either

 

[MiC]

Rap star obviously. I have yet to hear a pop star release a track like welcome to Detroit or Go to sleep.

Even berzerk has nothing pop about it. You could make an argument for it being a rock/rap song but not pop

 

[Gravity]

@ don't quote me again, ridiculous. You make me wanna quote you for no reason, just so you can stop taking yourself so serious.

Pardon me, I figured that since you were such a fukking expert on RAP music it would be safe to assume that you'd know who the most successful independent artist is in the area of your expertise.

Either way, he's one of the top 3 touring artists coming in right behind cats like Jay and kayne as of recent without getting much play in clubs or on radio, urban or otherwise. Is he somehow not a rapper/ "rap star" because nobody is shaking their ass to his music at the juke joint?

Yea, try that and see how it works out for you. Obviously you have the option to quote me anytime you want, but if I think that you're just trying to be a dikk/troll then I'll just insult you like a dog until you get it. I'm not the one.

I never claimed to be an expert on rap you feminine fukk. I made an argument for why Eminem is a pop star as opposed to a rap star.

Good for him(and you too since you got his dikk in your mouth), but his overall success is irrelevant to my point. I didn't say that he wasn't a rapper, I'm saying that his core audience/fans aren't rap fans. Eminem's core audience are pop fans, and that's how it's always has been. Again, his music is sent straight to the pop stations, they don't even send dude's music to the rap/urban stations. He's pop star that raps, just like Maclemore.

 

[hiphopfanatic]

You're missing the point on some emotional shyt. I touched on this in another thread days ago. Eminem is a pop star, not a rap star. I know that this is a hard pill for a lot of melanin challenged folk to swallow, but black people don't feel Eminem's music like that. He simply doesn't get play on black radio, in black clubs, or in the street like that. Eminem's core audience has always been the pop crowd not the rap crowd and he's embraced that. That's why he and his team don't even send records to urban radio anymore. The rap crowd saw dude as a novelty and fell back over 10 years ago.

Now cats like Wayne, Drake, Kanye, ad Jay are pop stars too, but they're also still rap stars because their music still resonates with the rap/urban/black audiences. You can't be in a black(urban) hiphop environment where music is being played and not hear those guys.

 

[Gravity]

 

[bright black]

Rap star obviously. I have yet to hear a pop star release a track like welcome to Detroit or Go to sleep.

Even berzerk has nothing pop about it. You could make an argument for it being a rock/rap song but not pop

i thought pop meant popular...like if everybody listened to rap that would make rap popular music...it would still be hip hop and also pop...even if im wrong this is still pretty much what rap/hip hop artist have been pushing for since the '97 shiny suit era...it just so happens that eminem is the only that can really capitalize off it...

 

[WEKetchum]

You're missing the point on some emotional shyt. I touched on this in another thread days ago. Eminem is a pop star, not a rap star. I know that this is a hard pill for a lot of melanin challenged folk to swallow, but black people don't feel Eminem's music like that. He simply doesn't get play on black radio, in black clubs, or in the street like that. Eminem's core audience has always been the pop crowd not the rap crowd and he's embraced that. That's why he and his team don't even send records to urban radio anymore. The rap crowd saw dude as a novelty and fell back over 10 years ago.

Now cats like Wayne, Drake, Kanye, ad Jay are pop stars too, but they're also still rap stars because their music still resonates with the rap/urban/black audiences. You can't be in a black(urban) hiphop environment where music is being played and not hear those guys.

Eminem isn't a fixture on black radio/clubs because his singles are specifically marketed toward pop audiences. His albums have a much stronger balance between pop and rap. He's always been one of the most technically-skilled rappers out there, and that's why he gets so much respect from other rappers. He has a pretty wide fan base of different races/backgrounds; you don't become the best-selling artist of the decade with only white fans.

 

[FlyRy]

4 years? The real Em died in 2006

Encore was 04 and still had a couple good tracks. This past few years he's been a sellout making songs with the same pop artists he spent his whole career clowning

 

[Mike Statik]

both

 

[WEKetchum]

Encore was 04 and still had a couple good tracks. This past few years he's been a sellout making songs with the same pop artists he spent his whole career clowning

I can see you saying that about Recovery, since he had a song with Pink. But Relapse and Bad Meets Evil weren't sellout albums at all

 

[FlyRy]

I can see you saying that about Recovery, since he had a song with Pink. But Relapse and Bad Meets Evil weren't sellout albums at all

He has multiple songs with pink and riri and was on riris album. Not to mention all the Skylar Greg crap. Just seems hypocritical

 

[WEKetchum]

He has multiple songs with pink and riri and was on riris album. Not to mention all the Skylar Greg crap. Just seems hypocritical

Did he diss Rihanna though? He didn't diss ALL singers - just the poppy ones that he thought had corny dispositions. I don't think Skylar Grey counts, because she was actually put on by Em in a lot of ways, she's a labelmate who sings his hooks. That'd be like him dissing Dina Rae after she sang on his albums

 

[FlyRy]

Did he diss Rihanna though? He didn't diss ALL singers - just the poppy ones that he thought had corny dispositions. I don't think Skylar Grey counts, because she was actually put on by Em in a lot of ways, she's a labelmate who sings his hooks. That'd be like him dissing Dina Rae after she sang on his albums

That's my whole point. Hr spent years dissing pink and Noe has tracks with her. Eminem died in 03 to me

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

lol @ "I dreamed up an interview last night"

"rappers just fight one another in the streets like gangsters"