Eminem still hasn't said anything about Nipsey Hussle's death

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Yawn

 

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I think many many dead celebrities get a lot of fans suddenly after they die. Game wasn't repping him this hard. Murda would have never said what he did on that rap up if he was still here. Tip would have never called him a legend. Etc

At least with Biggie and Pac those 2 were undoubtedly the biggest rappers when they died.

I'm so used to this process being common that I think it's silly to make issue of it though.

"At least with Biggie and Pac those 2 were undoubtedly the biggest rappers when they died"

Wait whut? It didn't seem like that at all.
Fugees were running the game then.

How old are you?

 

[Rosecrans]

fukk Feminem

 

[Sinister]

"At least with Biggie and Pac those 2 were undoubtedly the biggest rappers when they died"

Wait whut? It didn't seem like that at all.
Fugees were running the game then.

How old are you?

31

Maybe it's a regional thing

 

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31

Maybe it's a regional thing

You were 7. Are you sure you're not remembering 98, 99?

Can someone comment on Big and Pac's impact while alive?

To me it seemed like their popularity went up 75% after they died.

They weren't played a tonne on radio in Toronto. Biggie's juicy did and Big Papa. Not so much Pac till after.

I didn't feel like they were platinum when they were on.

Then there's a tonne of revisionist history.

What's the truth where you were from?

I was 16 at the time.

 

[Sinister]

You were 7. Are you sure you're not remembering 98, 99?

Can someone comment on Big and Pac's impact while alive?

To me it seemed like their popularity went up 75% after they died.

They weren't played a tonne on radio in Toronto. Biggie's juicy did and Big Papa. Not so much Pac till after.

I didn't feel like they were platinum when they were on.

Then there's a tonne of revisionist history.

What's the truth where you were from?

I was 16 at the time.

I'm from Carson California.

The 2 prominent radio stations over here at that time were 92.3 the beat and Power 106. EVERYTHING from the west coast was big over here that I remember. Domino, Cube, Snoop, even the likes of Kam, Quik, even bangin on wax

Biggest non east coast acts I remember were BTNH, Wu (with a heavy emphasis on Meth), and Biggie. I do remember listening to early Outkast but they weren't the megastars they later became.

The radio was my primary outlet pre internet. MTV and BET was my secondary.

 

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I'm from Carson California.

The 2 prominent radio stations over here at that time were 92.3 the beat and Power 106. EVERYTHING from the west coast was big over here that I remember. Domino, Cube, Snoop, even the likes of Kam, Quik, even bangin on wax

Biggest non east coast acts I remember were BTNH, Wu (with a heavy emphasis on Meth), and Biggie. I do remember listening to early Outkast but they weren't the megastars they later became.

The radio was my primary outlet pre internet. MTV and BET was my secondary.

No doubt. I respect you. My bad if I came off as disrespectful in anyway. I just don't remember Pac and Big being as big as say Outkast's Hey Ya, Snoop what's my name or Coolio's Gangsta Paradise. Of course Pac's ain't mad at Cha, and changes were big post death.

You remember Paperboy - Ditty? I loved that joint back then!

 

[Jahbarri]

You were 7. Are you sure you're not remembering 98, 99?

Can someone comment on Big and Pac's impact while alive?

To me it seemed like their popularity went up 75% after they died.

They weren't played a tonne on radio in Toronto. Biggie's juicy did and Big Papa. Not so much Pac till after.

I didn't feel like they were platinum when they were on.

Then there's a tonne of revisionist history.

What's the truth where you were from?

I was 16 at the time.

Tupac sold 5 million right outta jail with AEOM

 

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Tupac sold 5 million right outta jail with AEOM

That's great if true.

What was facts was this
"He found that the rapper, who died at 25, had barely anything to show for his chart-topping career. No mutual funds. No IRA. No real estate. Tupac didn’t even own his Woodland Hills, Calif., home. There was only a five-figure life insurance policy (the beneficiary was his half sister, Sekyiwa), two cars, and a single checking account that contained less than $105,000. Court fees and taxes would consume that quickly. The situation was so bad that when a young woman named Jacquelyn McNealey, paralyzed by a stray bullet during a Tupac concert in Arkansas, sued Tupac and asked for $16.6 million in damages, no one showed up in court to defend the estate."

ew.com/article/1997/07/25/tupacs-missing-millions/amp/

 

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"At least with Biggie and Pac those 2 were undoubtedly the biggest rappers when they died"

Wait whut? It didn't seem like that at all.
Fugees were running the game then.

How old are you?

You were 7. Are you sure you're not remembering 98, 99?

Can someone comment on Big and Pac's impact while alive?

To me it seemed like their popularity went up 75% after they died.

They weren't played a tonne on radio in Toronto. Biggie's juicy did and Big Papa. Not so much Pac till after.

I didn't feel like they were platinum when they were on.

Then there's a tonne of revisionist history.

What's the truth where you were from?

I was 16 at the time.

No doubt. I respect you. My bad if I came off as disrespectful in anyway. I just don't remember Pac and Big being as big as say Outkast's Hey Ya, Snoop what's my name or Coolio's Gangsta Paradise. Of course Pac's ain't mad at Cha, and changes were big post death.

You remember Paperboy - Ditty? I loved that joint back then!

I was 20 in 1996.

BIG went 4x plat with "Ready To Die".

Pac went gold with his debut, 1x plat with "Strictly For My N*ggaz", 2x plat with "Me Against The World"....went gold and plat with singles like "I Get Around", "Keep Ya Head Up" and "Dear Mama"....and "All Eyez On Me" went 5x plat before he died.

As far as Fugees....they were an anomaly. "The Score" is their only successful album, which went 6x plat. And they had songs like "Killing Me Softly" and "No Woman No Cry" that weren't even rap.
To put it into perspective, Pac and BIG were doing 4-5x plat alone. With just hip-hop.

As far as "Gangsta's Paradise"....it was the lead single to a hit movie.

As far as "Hey Ya"....that's not even rap man.

As far as Snoop, "Doggystyle" went 4x plat. So BIG was just as popular as Snoop....but without Dre.

As far as the radio, nobody gave a fukk about what was on the radio back then man. I was in the hood for 20+ years, what the radio was playing was a complete non-factor to us. Wu-Tang was going 4x plat with no radio singles, for example. Outkast, before they crossed over, were going 2x plat too. With no mainstream radio singles.

BIG and Pac were super stars man.

That's great if true.

What was facts was this
"He found that the rapper, who died at 25, had barely anything to show for his chart-topping career. No mutual funds. No IRA. No real estate. Tupac didn’t even own his Woodland Hills, Calif., home. There was only a five-figure life insurance policy (the beneficiary was his half sister, Sekyiwa), two cars, and a single checking account that contained less than $105,000. Court fees and taxes would consume that quickly. The situation was so bad that when a young woman named Jacquelyn McNealey, paralyzed by a stray bullet during a Tupac concert in Arkansas, sued Tupac and asked for $16.6 million in damages, no one showed up in court to defend the estate."

ew.com/article/1997/07/25/tupacs-missing-millions/amp/

It is what it is. Both Puff and Suge are shady businessmen and BIG and Pac obviously wasn't being paid what they deserved, given their success. It's a story as old as time itself.

Not to mention both of those guys died young. The average person in their 20's, with that level of fame, success, women, popularity, etc. wouldn't have their finances in order either, because it's not as if they are expecting to die any time soon.

Fred.

 

[The_Sheff]

That's great if true.

What was facts was this
"He found that the rapper, who died at 25, had barely anything to show for his chart-topping career. No mutual funds. No IRA. No real estate. Tupac didn’t even own his Woodland Hills, Calif., home. There was only a five-figure life insurance policy (the beneficiary was his half sister, Sekyiwa), two cars, and a single checking account that contained less than $105,000. Court fees and taxes would consume that quickly. The situation was so bad that when a young woman named Jacquelyn McNealey, paralyzed by a stray bullet during a Tupac concert in Arkansas, sued Tupac and asked for $16.6 million in damages, no one showed up in court to defend the estate."

ew.com/article/1997/07/25/tupacs-missing-millions/amp/

The guy you quoted was speaking on selling records and popularity then you come back with finances. What does that have to do with anything?

 

[iseetrolledpeople]

How do you go from

Wait whut? It didn't seem like that at all.
Fugees were running the game then.

to

Can someone comment on Big and Pac's impact while alive?

In a matter of 1 post?

1996 Romania, only 6 years after the fall of communism was mourning Pac. I wouldn't expect you to know what I'm talking about but let's just say that the meee fact that we knew back then who he was it speaks HEAVY about Pac's power.

It's the 2nd post of yours that I can take it as trolling, and if that's not trolling you are seriously lackin' and masking as a motherf.

If you are looking for attention you're getting the bad one for sure.

 

[BK The Great]

Eminem doesn’t even claim to be from the hood or even support it he’s said it in his music. I still don’t get why people would even expect him to do something about this situation.


“How you gonna go and diss Michael
You should get your ghetto pass revoked
I never had no ghetto pass, you a$$hole
You really wanna know, when I did live in the ghetto
I kept a trespassing charge up at the railroad tracks
So I suggest you get your facts straight before you go
This assuming to know
I ain't grow up in no trailer park just cause I was poor”

 

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I was 20 in 1996.

BIG went 4x plat with "Ready To Die".

Pac went gold with his debut, 1x plat with "Strictly For My N*ggaz", 2x plat with "Me Against The World"....went gold and plat with singles like "I Get Around", "Keep Ya Head Up" and "Dear Mama"....and "All Eyez On Me" went 5x plat before he died.

As far as Fugees....they were an anomaly. "The Score" is their only successful album, which went 6x plat. And they had songs like "Killing Me Softly" and "No Woman No Cry" that weren't even rap.
To put it into perspective, Pac and BIG were doing 4-5x plat alone. With just hip-hop.

As far as "Gangsta's Paradise"....it was the lead single to a hit movie.

As far as "Hey Ya"....that's not even rap man.

As far as Snoop, "Doggystyle" went 4x plat. So BIG was just as popular as Snoop....but without Dre.

As far as the radio, nobody gave a fukk about what was on the radio back then man. I was in the hood for 20+ years, what the radio was playing was a complete non-factor to us. Wu-Tang was going 4x plat with no radio singles, for example. Outkast, before they crossed over, were going 2x plat too. With no mainstream radio singles.

BIG and Pac were super stars man.



It is what it is. Both Puff and Suge are shady businessmen and BIG and Pac obviously wasn't being paid what they deserved, given their success. It's a story as old as time itself.

Not to mention both of those guys died young. The average person in their 20's, with that level of fame, success, women, popularity, etc. wouldn't have their finances in order either, because it's not as if they are expecting to die any time soon.

Fred.

Very well said and thanks for your insight.
I just felt that Pac and Big didn't do those numbers while alive.

 

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The guy you quoted was speaking on selling records and popularity then you come back with finances. What does that have to do with anything?

Because selling records and popularity have everything to do with finances.
Money made, put back into marketing.
Attractive, lavish lifestyles etc