Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP turns 16 this weekend

[JustCKing]

It is pro black you're a mockery of blacks period cause its clear as day you a cac in blackface on here, but a pro black site wouldn't foster a cac like you claimin if you say negative things about whites you're not pro black which is why I said you should get banned. Funny you bringin those things up when the shyt you sayin is just as obnoxious, you literally pushin an agenda that racist whites say yet wonder why I'm callin you a cac and sayin you have no credibility on what pro black means.

You been rantin this whole time about me callin you a cac and are still doin it in this very post, the reason you even talkin about the definition of pro black is cause I said no black man would cape for Em the way you are I didn't even bring up the words "pro black" you did when respondin to that statement. :whythefukkyoulyin:You obviously took offense to what I said before otherwise you wouldn't have even responded to me initially since I wasn't talkin to you, the fact you rushed in to take up the other side of the discussion I was havin and have been aggressively objectin to my posts for 2 weeks shows you offended so quit lyin. @ sayin if this site was pro black what I'M sayin would be worthy of a ban, no if the mods enforced pro blackness on here YOU would be IP banned for the cac shyt you been sayin while pretendin to be black. I brought up Malcolm X cause you claimed true pro blacks don't put whites down when Malcolm X insulted whites alot, you're tryna act outraged over my X mention in a desperate attempt to look black yet are further exposin the fact you not black by bein ignorant of Malcolm's history.

I never said puttin Em on Renegade DID capitalize on Em's fanbase I just said Jay was tryna capitalize on Em's fanbase by puttin him on, you don't know what capitalize means since you think he had to make a video and promote the song but just by havin the song on there in the first place it was an attempt at capitalizin you just sayin "he didn't make a video so it wasn't capitalizing" and talkin bout stickers when everyone already knew about the song it was one of the most talked about tracks on the album dikkhead.

Where did imply that if you say negative things about whites then you're not Pro Black? I said that a person being proud of being Black doesn't predicate that pride on putting others down.

You indeed brought up Pro Black when you said:

this site is filled wit pro blacks

I don't need to attempt to be Black. I am Black. You're the one that's creating walls of texts in a weak attempt to prove something. That's possibly why you introduced race into this first place. Again, your posts wreak of insecurity. Pathetic. Can't even let the writing speak for itself. You got a 100 smilies to attempt to hide the anger. All of this simply because I disagreed with you.

Malcolm X wasn't insulting whites. He was telling the truth. He wasn't out here calling other Black people whites because he was discussing music with them and they disagreed. That's why it's an insult to his name and legacy that you'd even bring up his name in a discussion on Eminem. That's the type of garbage that I'm talking about.

Capitalizing means making the most of something. How do you attempt to make the most or capitalize on someone's fanbase if you're not actively letting them know it exists?

 

[Stack Money]

Where did imply that if you say negative things about whites then you're not Pro Black? I said that a person being proud of being Black doesn't predicate that pride on putting others down.

You indeed brought up Pro Black when you said:


I don't need to attempt to be Black. I am Black. You're the one that's creating walls of texts in a weak attempt to prove something. That's possibly why you introduced race into this first place. Again, your posts wreak of insecurity. Pathetic. Can't even let the writing speak for itself. You got a 100 smilies to attempt to hide the anger. All of this simply because I disagreed with you.

Malcolm X wasn't insulting whites. He was telling the truth. He wasn't out here calling other Black people whites because he was discussing music with them and they disagreed. That's why it's an insult to his name and legacy that you'd even bring up his name in a discussion on Eminem. That's the type of garbage that I'm talking about.

Capitalizing means making the most of something. How do you attempt to make the most or capitalize on someone's fanbase if you're not actively letting them know it exists?

By sayin pro blacks don't put others down you're blatantly claimin pro blacks don't say negative things about whites, don't try to play semantics now cac. I mentioned this site bein filled wit pro blacks in response to you whinin about posters in the Booth judgin people's blackness, and I said a bunch of things in that post yet you singled out those 7 words to whine about for the last couple days cause you couldn't refute anythin else so you had to deflect by rantin about the definition of pro black while simultaneously cryin over the pro blacks on here who made you mad. You're not black you're clearly white and are tryna pretend to be black cause I called you out on it, you know me highlightin your race further discredits your argument so you're attemptin to convince me and anyone readin that you're black. I typed alot cause I was dissectin your nonsense like I'm doin right now you don't have comebacks for what I'm sayin so you're once again tryna deflect and focus on the length of my text instead of the actual argument, I pointed out the majority of Em stans are white and by goin so hard for him you look white and you got in your feelins and threw a hissy fit which shows YOU wreak of insecurity. You like every person I make catch feelins project alot which is why you're accusin me of doin what you've been doin its a age old tactic, and I said before I always type like this and use alot of smilies anyone who knows me and my history on this site as well as on the IC knows thats just my postin style it has nothin to do wit anger. You're tryna accuse me of bein angry in an attempt to hide YOUR anger, all of this simply cause I said somethin about Em that hurt your little sissified stan feelins.

Malcolm X literally called whites names before and promoted militant ideology (the same militancy that me and most on this site believe in and you've been whinin about:michaeljordanlaugh: ) which is why whites hate him and prop up MLK as an alternative for blacks to look up to cause he preached passiveness which is the exact tactic Khalid Muhammad mentioned that I posted earlier you not realizin that lets me further know you a cac wit no knowledge on the things he said, I didn't call black people white I called out a white person pretendin to be white showin you're just like the other white fans of that music.:cacjordan: You're downtalkin pro blacks and rantin on militant thinkin cause I made a post insultin Eminem which is somethin blacks would never do, you love to take things I say out of context as if I randomly said it without mentionin the nonsense you said that I was respondin to which is a weak debate tactic.

Everyone knew the song existed quit playin dumb and actin like you don't know that Renegade was a stand out track from the album that got publicity by itself, Jay and Em were the biggest rappers in the world on a track together you actin as if it was a song by a C list rapper that no one ever heard of.

 

[Redwing80]

Only Eminem album I enjoyed, even though I haven't listened to it in years.

Classic album

 

[JustCKing]

By sayin pro blacks don't put others down you're blatantly claimin pro blacks don't say negative things about whites, don't try to play semantics now cac. I mentioned this site bein filled wit pro blacks in response to you whinin about posters in the Booth judgin people's blackness, and I said a bunch of things in that post yet you singled out those 7 words to whine about for the last couple days cause you couldn't refute anythin else so you had to deflect by rantin about the definition of pro black while simultaneously cryin over the pro blacks on here who made you mad. You're not black you're clearly white and are tryna pretend to be black cause I called you out on it, you know me highlightin your race further discredits your argument so you're attemptin to convince me and anyone readin that you're black. I typed alot cause I was dissectin your nonsense like I'm doin right now you don't have comebacks for what I'm sayin so you're once again tryna deflect and focus on the length of my text instead of the actual argument, I pointed out the majority of Em stans are white and by goin so hard for him you look white and you got in your feelins and threw a hissy fit which shows YOU wreak of insecurity. You like every person I make catch feelins project alot which is why you're accusin me of doin what you've been doin its a age old tactic, and I said before I always type like this and use alot of smilies anyone who knows me and my history on this site as well as on the IC knows thats just my postin style it has nothin to do wit anger. You're tryna accuse me of bein angry in an attempt to hide YOUR anger, all of this simply cause I said somethin about Em that hurt your little sissified stan feelins.

Malcolm X literally called whites names before and promoted militant ideology (the same militancy that me and most on this site believe in and you've been whinin about:michaeljordanlaugh: ) which is why whites hate him and prop up MLK as an alternative for blacks to look up to cause he preached passiveness which is the exact tactic Khalid Muhammad mentioned that I posted earlier you not realizin that lets me further know you a cac wit no knowledge on the things he said, I didn't call black people white I called out a white person pretendin to be white showin you're just like the other white fans of that music.:cacjordan: You're downtalkin pro blacks and rantin on militant thinkin cause I made a post insultin Eminem which is somethin blacks would never do, you love to take things I say out of context as if I randomly said it without mentionin the nonsense you said that I was respondin to which is a weak debate tactic.

Everyone knew the song existed quit playin dumb and actin like you don't know that Renegade was a stand out track from the album that got publicity by itself, Jay and Em were the biggest rappers in the world on a track together you actin as if it was a song by a C list rapper that no one ever heard of.

How am I deflecting, when you're the one who introduced race and being Pro Black into the discussion? I really don't care what you call me. I know it's not true. People will see your posts and be able to see you for who you really are.

It's really entertaining to see someone's posts filled with expletives, insults, and smilies and then claim they aren't mad or emotional.

You don't always type with smilies. Your first responses to my posts contained no smilies that I can recall.

Militancy is actually a term that was used to demonize what Malcolm X stood for. Malcolm X was not a Muslim. Just because he advocated self-defense, it was white people who were afraid of him that labeled him a militant because labeling him as such made him look like a threat so they could justify taking him out. It just goes to show how out of your league you are. The Black Panthers actually were militants, but it was for our protection against the police. You and these arm chair faux Pro Black posters on The Coli are not militants. You're an insult to Black people and Black culture in general. It also goes to show how limited your knowledge of MLK is. There's a portion of MLK that is canonized by white America. If you're familiar with the entirety of the "I Have A Dream" speech (the portion that speaks about what would happen if America didn't make good on it's Promissary Note), then you'd know MLK wasn't all passive.

I'm not downtalking Pro Blacks. I'm downtalking fake Pro Black posters like yourself who do a disservice to Black people by trivializing what it actually means to be Pro Black.

Everyone didn't know the song existed. If you have fans that don't follow Hip Hop, they don't know about no "Renegade". In fact, Nas drew more attention to the song than it initially received.

 

[Stack Money]

How am I deflecting, when you're the one who introduced race and being Pro Black into the discussion? I really don't care what you call me. I know it's not true. People will see your posts and be able to see you for who you really are.

It's really entertaining to see someone's posts filled with expletives, insults, and smilies and then claim they aren't mad or emotional.

You don't always type with smilies. Your first responses to my posts contained no smilies that I can recall.

Militancy is actually a term that was used to demonize what Malcolm X stood for. Malcolm X was not a Muslim. Just because he advocated self-defense, it was white people who were afraid of him that labeled him a militant because labeling him as such made him look like a threat so they could justify taking him out. It just goes to show how out of your league you are. The Black Panthers actually were militants, but it was for our protection against the police. You and these arm chair faux Pro Black posters on The Coli are not militants. You're an insult to Black people and Black culture in general. It also goes to show how limited your knowledge of MLK is. There's a portion of MLK that is canonized by white America. If you're familiar with the entirety of the "I Have A Dream" speech (the portion that speaks about what would happen if America didn't make good on it's Promissary Note), then you'd know MLK wasn't all passive.

I'm not downtalking Pro Blacks. I'm downtalking fake Pro Black posters like yourself who do a disservice to Black people by trivializing what it actually means to be Pro Black.

Everyone didn't know the song existed. If you have fans that don't follow Hip Hop, they don't know about no "Renegade". In fact, Nas drew more attention to the song than it initially received.

You're spinnin actin as if I randomly mentioned race when I brought it up cause your posts came off as real white, clearly you do care what I call you otherwise you wouldn't have thrown those temper tantrums claimin I'm "disgracin blacks by bringin up race in an Eminem discussion" ragin as if I called every black the N word and made fun of slavery. People already see your posts and see who you really are which is why you've been whinin about people callin you a cac on hereyou went on a tangent cryin over this board's thoughts on race cause I called you a cac so obviously I hit a nerve you real sensitive to that accusation I wonder why.

Like I said before I always post like that I talk in real life the same way you're just a sissy thinkin if someone cusses they're mad, I'm a grown ass man I don't censor my language and I use smilies all the time you keep pretendin I haven't explained this to you in an attempt to project your emotional state onto me.:mmmhmmiseeyou:

Yes I do always type wit smilies look thru my post history dikkhead better yet I'll show you this old post of me blatantly clownin while usin a ton of smilies way more than I've used in here -

@ Nikki sayin she thought about cheerin on Brie's kiss wit AJbut didn't cause it was incest

Brie went out of her way to tell Nikki it would've been okay to enjoy the kissand said it would only be incest if they kissed each other


How could he be gay wit twin sisters that fine and a MILF mother? I'm surprised he not fukkin his hot slutty sisters, then again maybe he is.

His wife looks really similar to Brie in her Instagram/Twitter pics he prolly fantasizes she's his sister when fukkin her and maybe even has her roleplay as Brie.


He did it on purpose, JJ wanted his sisters to see him naked hopin they'd like what they saw and send nudes of themselves back to him then eventually let him smash.

Nikki said it was "kinda amazin" couldn't stop lookin at it and was excitedly showin it off to everyoneshe didn't want to delete it and probably still has it on thereBrie was starin at it for a pretty long time herself and was smilin when Bryan said "you looked at your brother's penis"she prolly got it saved tooeven her brother pointed out "you're pretty descriptive of it right now so obviously you took a good look at it"She admitted she "felt alot of emotions" when she saw itthats why she had him come to her house the next day to "nail some things to the wall"and told him "I had you come over cause you're a man, cause I thought you could get this done"sayin things like "you don't think I could screw it in?"later in the episode when he got upset they laughed at the pic she smiled at him and said "we didn't laugh because like...(it wasn't small)" and he said "well I know that" she was droppin hints that she wanted the D all over the place you know he fukked at her house when the cameras cut off and fukked again at his house after Nikki lefthe also brought up Nikki havin her t*ts hangin out all the time and she pulled her hair back and shoved her t*ts out more showin them off to himBrie was checkin those t*ts out tooGOAT episode

even that dude mrken12 who you tried to use as a reference to support your argument told you I always post like that and he hates me, just cause I don't do it in every post doesn't mean I only did it cause of somethin you said you're not special bytch.

You literally playin semantics again his personality and rhetoric was militant everyone knows this and blacks stay describin him as militant it ain't a diss just a fact, I never even said he was a Muslim I don't know where you got that from but thats an example of you randomly respondin wit bullshyt straw men to fill in the gaps of your posts that are left from you not havin retorts to most of my points. :michaeljordanlaugh:@ Out of my league you not even usin that term in the right context but you the one who doesn't know shyt about what he's sayin, you don't have to kill people or get physically violent to be militant thats what I mean by your autistic ass takin words too literally either out of stupidity or in an attempt to spin things to give yourself an argument (prolly a little bit of both). The word militant is used all the time to mean aggressive or in your face no nonsense type of behavior even the actual definition isn't what you're sayin "combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause, and typically favoring extreme, violent, or confrontational methods"its about bein really assertive not necessarily violent. So by definition we are militant cause we are aggressive and unapologetic not givin a fukk about makin you cacs mad, you the insult to blacks not only for promotin c00n behavior but lyin about bein black to make your argument sound better which is exactly what racist cacs on Youtube do all the time like "I'm black and even I think Trayvon Martin was a thug". Your knowledge on MLK is non existent besides what other whites told you, dude was non violent and held peaceful marches he was relatively docile by comparison which like Khalid Muhammad said is what whites like you want from us you're literally in here sayin we should be like that towards you instead of callin you a cac and insultin whites which accordin to your white ass isn't pro blackeven tho the words pro black are self explanatory meanin "for blacks" and by bein against whites simultaneously that actually makes us even more pro black by definition.:triplehcoffee: Smarten up.

You are downtalkin pro blacks by sayin they not actually pro black and misrepresentin what the term means and what true pro blacks stand for, YOU trivializin what it means to be black period by fakin the funk ol "I wanna be down" ass cac.

Everyone did know the song existed you didn't even have to be a hip hop fan The Blueprint was a huge album plenty non heads knew of it and that track was arguably the biggest one on the album, and Em stans (don't forget those are the people I'm talkin bout here) especially knew about the song since it was one of Em's own songs and had some of the best verses of his career many of yall consider that to be one of his best songs every stan was hype about the track when the album dropped. You delusional thinkin Nas brought more attention to it not only is Nas not as big as Jay and Em but Ether wasn't nearly as big of a song as Renegade and Blueprint was more commercially successful than Stillmatic, you did have to follow hip hop to know about Ether.

 

[Formerly known as...]

After Slim Shady LP I honestly didn't think he would come back so aggressive and vulgar again...I thought he would soften up but as soon as 'Kill you' kicked in I was like

 

[JustCKing]

You're spinnin actin as if I randomly mentioned race when I brought it up cause your posts came off as real white, clearly you do care what I call you otherwise you wouldn't have thrown those temper tantrums claimin I'm "disgracin blacks by bringin up race in an Eminem discussion" ragin as if I called every black the N word and made fun of slavery. People already see your posts and see who you really are which is why you've been whinin about people callin you a cac on hereyou went on a tangent cryin over this board's thoughts on race cause I called you a cac so obviously I hit a nerve you real sensitive to that accusation I wonder why.

Like I said before I always post like that I talk in real life the same way you're just a sissy thinkin if someone cusses they're mad, I'm a grown ass man I don't censor my language and I use smilies all the time you keep pretendin I haven't explained this to you in an attempt to project your emotional state onto me.:mmmhmmiseeyou:

Yes I do always type wit smilies look thru my post history dikkhead better yet I'll show you this old post of me blatantly clownin while usin a ton of smilies way more than I've used in here -



even that dude mrken12 who you tried to use as a reference to support your argument told you I always post like that and he hates me, just cause I don't do it in every post doesn't mean I only did it cause of somethin you said you're not special bytch.

You literally playin semantics again his personality and rhetoric was militant everyone knows this and blacks stay describin him as militant it ain't a diss just a fact, I never even said he was a Muslim I don't know where you got that from but thats an example of you randomly respondin wit bullshyt straw men to fill in the gaps of your posts that are left from you not havin retorts to most of my points. :michaeljordanlaugh:@ Out of my league you not even usin that term in the right context but you the one who doesn't know shyt about what he's sayin, you don't have to kill people or get physically violent to be militant thats what I mean by your autistic ass takin words too literally either out of stupidity or in an attempt to spin things to give yourself an argument (prolly a little bit of both). The word militant is used all the time to mean aggressive or in your face no nonsense type of behavior even the actual definition isn't what you're sayin "combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause, and typically favoring extreme, violent, or confrontational methods"its about bein really assertive not necessarily violent. So by definition we are militant cause we are aggressive and unapologetic not givin a fukk about makin you cacs mad, you the insult to blacks not only for promotin c00n behavior but lyin about bein black to make your argument sound better which is exactly what racist cacs on Youtube do all the time like "I'm black and even I think Trayvon Martin was a thug". Your knowledge on MLK is non existent besides what other whites told you, dude was non violent and held peaceful marches he was relatively docile by comparison which like Khalid Muhammad said is what whites like you want from us you're literally in here sayin we should be like that towards you instead of callin you a cac and insultin whites which accordin to your white ass isn't pro blackeven tho the words pro black are self explanatory meanin "for blacks" and by bein against whites simultaneously that actually makes us even more pro black by definition.:triplehcoffee: Smarten up.

You are downtalkin pro blacks by sayin they not actually pro black and misrepresentin what the term means and what true pro blacks stand for, YOU trivializin what it means to be black period by fakin the funk ol "I wanna be down" ass cac.

Everyone did know the song existed you didn't even have to be a hip hop fan The Blueprint was a huge album plenty non heads knew of it and that track was arguably the biggest one on the album, and Em stans (don't forget those are the people I'm talkin bout here) especially knew about the song since it was one of Em's own songs and had some of the best verses of his career many of yall consider that to be one of his best songs every stan was hype about the track when the album dropped. You delusional thinkin Nas brought more attention to it not only is Nas not as big as Jay and Em but Ether wasn't nearly as big of a song as Renegade and Blueprint was more commercially successful than Stillmatic, you did have to follow hip hop to know about Ether.

I don't care about what you call me. I do care when people attempt to trivialize being Pro Black to push an agenda and specifically to bring it into a discussion that doesn't warrant it. You and other posters like you might as well be calling Blacks the n word making fun of slavery because it's essentially the same thing. In fact that's what you do every time you mention anything that has to with Blackness.

I didn't go off on a tangent because I never once made this about race until you brought it up.

And again, there's proof in this thread that you don't always post like that. You only resorted to type when you caught a sissy fit over me disagreeing with your post.

You're obviously not grown because even children cuss. And if you were really a student of Malcolm X, you'd be able to express yourself without them.

And yes, you're out of your league. Where did I say you had to kill people or be physically violent to be militant? Being militant goes beyond being assertive. A person can be assertive without ever crossing the line of being militant. By definition, you're not militant.

Malcolm X also wanted peace. It's something Muslims actually advocate and if you really knew what you were talking about, you would know that MLK and Malcolm X weren't that philosophically different. They both had shifts in their approaches and there's interviews from both men that back up what I'm saying. Telling America that if it doesn't make good on it's promise or else there will be riots in the streets is hardly docile.

"Renegade" was not arguably the biggest song on the album. "Takeover" is the biggest song on the album. It's one of the reasons it's classic. There's other songs on the album that are bigger than "Renegade" was well.

The fact that "Renegade" was a Royce song wasn't revealed until after the fact.

Nas not being bigger than Jay or Eminem isn't the point. The song was blown up after Nas said Jay was murdered by Em. Even now, "renegaded" like "ethered' has become a part of the lexicon because of "Ether". And yeah, throw "stan" in there too as another term that became a part of the lexicon as a result of "Ether". "Ether" was bigger than "Renegade". "Ether" actually charted.

 

[Stack Money]

I don't care about what you call me. I do care when people attempt to trivialize being Pro Black to push an agenda and specifically to bring it into a discussion that doesn't warrant it. You and other posters like you might as well be calling Blacks the n word making fun of slavery because it's essentially the same thing. In fact that's what you do every time you mention anything that has to with Blackness.

I didn't go off on a tangent because I never once made this about race until you brought it up.

And again, there's proof in this thread that you don't always post like that. You only resorted to type when you caught a sissy fit over me disagreeing with your post.

You're obviously not grown because even children cuss. And if you were really a student of Malcolm X, you'd be able to express yourself without them.

And yes, you're out of your league. Where did I say you had to kill people or be physically violent to be militant? Being militant goes beyond being assertive. A person can be assertive without ever crossing the line of being militant. By definition, you're not militant.

Malcolm X also wanted peace. It's something Muslims actually advocate and if you really knew what you were talking about, you would know that MLK and Malcolm X weren't that philosophically different. They both had shifts in their approaches and there's interviews from both men that back up what I'm saying. Telling America that if it doesn't make good on it's promise or else there will be riots in the streets is hardly docile.

"Renegade" was not arguably the biggest song on the album. "Takeover" is the biggest song on the album. It's one of the reasons it's classic. There's other songs on the album that are bigger than "Renegade" was well.

The fact that "Renegade" was a Royce song wasn't revealed until after the fact.

Nas not being bigger than Jay or Eminem isn't the point. The song was blown up after Nas said Jay was murdered by Em. Even now, "renegaded" like "ethered' has become a part of the lexicon because of "Ether". And yeah, throw "stan" in there too as another term that became a part of the lexicon as a result of "Ether". "Ether" was bigger than "Renegade". "Ether" actually charted.

:whythefukkyoulyin:You obviously care or you wouldn't be bytchin about me sayin it, that "trivializin pro black" bullshyt is just your excuse for all the feelins you catchin you clearly are sensitive when people call you out on bein a cac which is why you randomly threw a hissy fit about other posters on here sayin it to you. Not only are you a perpetratin cac but you keep makin these jackass arguments about blacknessyou whined about me mentionin your race in a discussion about Eminem yet have the audacity to compare me (and everyone on this site) bein pro black to callin blacks the N word and makin fun of slavery you should be banned for that bullshyt and I just reported you cac.

I pointed out the way you talked was cacish like people do on here all the time stop cryin like a little bytch and get over it fakkit (*waits for you to complain about me callin you a fakkit and say I'm mad for usin that word*:michaeljordanlaugh: ), you all homotional naggin me about that as if I'm gonna apologize to you when I'm just gonna clown you about it even more now that I know it makes you so butthurt.

You did go off on a tangent you mentioned race first and keep talkin about race in a transparent attempt to deflect from the original topic that I ethered you on, don't think I don't see what you're tryna do you're mad and just wanna argue but knew you had no good excuse to continue the Renegade topic after I pointed out how stupid it was for you to rant about it for this long so you're switchin to this new topic that you've been furious about for some time and are usin me as a stand in for the entire site to vent at and release your rage on cause you too much of a p*ssy to bring it up wit others knowin you'd get roasted have a neg train ran on you and probably be banned.:mmmhmmiseeyou:

I just gave you proof that I make posts like that all the time I've been doin it for years on multiple sites I can give you names of several other posters on here you can ask who will tell you the same thing one even told you this in this thread which you ignoredthat quote I posted wasn't even in a debate or argument I was crackin jokes about a TV show, just cause I have some posts in here that didn't use many smilies doesn't mean I never posted like this before you're once again takin words too literally like the autistic fukk you are fixatin on "all the time" actin like those earlier posts disproves what I'm sayin cause I don't literally do it "all the time". You just don't want to acknowledge that I regularly post this way cause it doesn't fit your narrative, thats one of your shytty debate tactics you did the same thing wit me supposedly bein a Em hater ignorin me sayin he talented since it destroyed your argument of me havin deep hatred for him. The irony of YOU accusin ME of throwin a sissy fit when you've been doin that since the moment you quoted me cause I made a post you didn't like, sissy is your "type" not mine but you're a cac and bein effeminate is in yall nature.

So because I cuss I'm not grown since children cuss toosounds like you're projectin again you complainin about me cussin like its such a big deal makes you seem like a kid, man up and stop gettin upset over everythin I say like a sensitive sissy. I didn't say I'm a "student" of Malcolm I just know about him like every other black man, you think X never cussedhe was a real BLACK man not a cac faq like you who gets squeamish over curse words like a female. I keep it real and talk like most nikkas from the hood, we cuss deal wit ityou bein so shocked by that and sayin that "Intelligent people can articulate themselves without cursin" shyt cacs usually say further proves you white and never even been around black folks.

Your usage of that "out of your league" sayin wasn't the right wordage that applies in that context (you can't talk properly and miss basic social cues cause of your autism explainin why you so confused over multiple things that I've said) but I'm in my league YOU'RE out of YOUR league bein a cac tryna speak on black issues, you brought up the Black Panthers sayin they were militant to show Malcolm X wasn't militant cause he didn't carry guns and shoot people like they did which implied thats a prerequisite for bein militant. I'm not talkin about just bein assertive I'm talkin about militancy bein abrasive and outspoken to the point of offendin some people which Malcolm was and we are on here, by actual definition I am militant I just gave you the dictionary definition of militant which describes the way I've been talkin to you denyin facts won't make it any less true you're still wrong no matter how much you say otherwise.

MLK and X weren't drastically different but their approaches weren't the same at all if YOU knew what you were talkin about you'd know that him tellin America about backlash wasn't him threatenin to do anythin it was just a warnin about the reality of the situation (implyin it was a threat is somethin a cac would do by the way:cacjordan: ), besides actions speak louder than words and Martin's actions were docile holdin hands and marchin isn't at all militant and I never said Malcolm didn't want peace that was the goal of every civil rights activist but his methods for achievin peace were militant.

Renegade is ARGUABLY the biggest song on the album meanin it can and has been argued, Takeover was big too and just like Renegade it wasn't a single but it didn't have the 2 biggest rappers in hip hop on it wit some of the best verses from Em. Renegade is also one of the reasons the album is a classic and there are no other songs bigger than it on the album only Takeover could be argued as bein bigger, you just sayin shyt to disagree wit everythin I say now wit nothin to back up your bs claims.:stephenasmithsleep:

Royce bein on Renegade originally has nothin to do wit anythin I said so I don't know why you even brought that up, the song was not blown up after Nas said Em murdered Jay that wasn't even the most talked about diss from Ether and NOBODY says Renegaded fukk outta here claimin thats a popular slang term like "Ethered" is. Only corny cac Em stans have ever said "Renegaded" you even bein around people who say that word enough for you to think its a common term lets us further know you a cac and Em stan so once again you exposin yourself cac.Stan became a term in hip hop from Em's song Stan dumbass it had nothin to do wit EtherNas sayin "You a fan a fake a phony a p*ssy a stan" wasn't even a quotable from Ether like that you blatantly makin up shyt to support another one of your weak arguments, Ether was not bigger than Renegade it was a diss that wasn't even a good song Renegade was a classic song from the 2 biggest rappers in the world who have legions of fans. And Ether didn't chart you not even tryin anymore tellin all these lies that are easily disproven, but you don't want to really debate you just want to bytch at me and say the opposite of whatever I say like a petty female.

 

[JustCKing]

:whythefukkyoulyin:You obviously care or you wouldn't be bytchin about me sayin it, that "trivializin pro black" bullshyt is just your excuse for all the feelins you catchin you clearly are sensitive when people call you out on bein a cac which is why you randomly threw a hissy fit about other posters on here sayin it to you. Not only are you a perpetratin cac but you keep makin these jackass arguments about blacknessyou whined about me mentionin your race in a discussion about Eminem yet have the audacity to compare me (and everyone on this site) bein pro black to callin blacks the N word and makin fun of slavery you should be banned for that bullshyt and I just reported you cac.

I pointed out the way you talked was cacish like people do on here all the time stop cryin like a little bytch and get over it fakkit (*waits for you to complain about me callin you a fakkit and say I'm mad for usin that word*), you all homotional naggin me about that as if I'm gonna apologize to you when I'm just gonna clown you about it even more now that I know it makes you so butthurt.

You did go off on a tangent you mentioned race first and keep talkin about race in a transparent attempt to deflect from the original topic that I ethered you on, don't think I don't see what you're tryna do you're mad and just wanna argue but knew you had no good excuse to continue the Renegade topic after I pointed out how stupid it was for you to rant about it for this long so you're switchin to this new topic that you've been furious about for some time and are usin me as a stand in for the entire site to vent at and release your rage on cause you too much of a p*ssy to bring it up wit others knowin you'd get roasted have a neg train ran on you and probably be banned.:mmmhmmiseeyou:

I just gave you proof that I make posts like that all the time I've been doin it for years on multiple sites I can give you names of several other posters on here you can ask who will tell you the same thing one even told you this in this thread which you ignoredthat quote I posted wasn't even in a debate or argument I was crackin jokes about a TV show, just cause I have some posts in here that didn't use many smilies doesn't mean I never posted like this before you're once again takin words too literally like the autistic fukk you are fixatin on "all the time" actin like those earlier posts disproves what I'm sayin cause I don't literally do it "all the time". You just don't want to acknowledge that I regularly post this way cause it doesn't fit your narrative, thats one of your shytty debate tactics you did the same thing wit me supposedly bein a Em hater ignorin me sayin he talented since it destroyed your argument of me havin deep hatred for him. The irony of YOU accusin ME of throwin a sissy fit when you've been doin that since the moment you quoted me cause I made a post you didn't like, sissy is your "type" not mine but you're a cac and bein effeminate is in yall nature.

So because I cuss I'm not grown since children cuss toosounds like you're projectin again you complainin about me cussin like its such a big deal makes you seem like a kid, man up and stop gettin upset over everythin I say like a sensitive sissy. I didn't say I'm a "student" of Malcolm I just know about him like every other black man, you think X never cussedhe was a real BLACK man not a faq like you who gets squeamish over curse words like a female. I keep it real and talk like most nikkas from the hood, we cuss deal wit ityou bein so shocked by that and sayin that "Intelligent people can articulate themselves without cursin" shyt cacs usually say further proves you white and never even been around black folks.

Your usage of that "out of your league" sayin wasn't the right wordage that applies in that context (you can't talk properly and miss basic social cues cause of your autism explainin why you so confused over multiple things that I've said) but I'm in my league YOU'RE out of YOUR league bein a cac tryna speak on black issues, you brought up the Black Panthers sayin they were militant to show Malcolm X wasn't militant cause he didn't carry guns and shoot people like they did which implied thats a prerequisite for bein militant. I'm not talkin about just bein assertive I'm talkin about militancy bein abrasive and outspoken to the point of offendin some people which Malcolm was and we are on here, by actual definition I am militant I just gave you the dictionary definition of militant which describes the way I've been talkin to you denyin facts won't make it any less true you're still wrong no matter how much you say otherwise.

MLK and X weren't drastically different but their approaches weren't the same at all if YOU knew what you were talkin about you'd know that him tellin America about backlash wasn't him threatenin to do anythin it was just a warnin about the reality of the situation (implyin it was a threat is somethin a cac would do by the way:cacjordan, besides actions speak louder than words and Martin's actions were docile holdin hands and marchin isn't at all militant and I never said Malcolm didn't want peace that was the goal of every civil rights activist but his methods for achievin peace were militant.

Renegade is ARGUABLY the biggest song on the album meanin it can and has been argued, Takeover was big too and just like Renegade it wasn't a single but it didn't have the 2 biggest rappers in hip hop on it wit some of the best verses from Em. Renegade is also one of the reasons the album is a classic and there are no other songs bigger than it on the album only Takeover could be argued as bein bigger, you just sayin shyt to disagree wit everythin I say now wit nothin to back up your bs claims.:stephenasmithsleep:

Royce bein on Renegade originally has nothin to do wit anythin I said so I don't know why you even brought that up, the song was not blown up after Nas said Em murdered Jay that wasn't even the most talked about diss from Ether and NOBODY says Renegaded fukk outta here claimin thats a popular slang term like "Ethered" is. Only corny cac Em stans have ever said "Renegaded" you even bein around people who say that word enough for you to think its a common term lets us further know you a cac and Em stan so once again you exposin yourself cac.Stan became a term in hip hop from Em's song Stan dumbass it had nothin to do wit EtherNas sayin "You a fan a fake a phony a p*ssy a stan" wasn't even a quotable from Ether like that you blatantly makin up shyt to support another one of your weak arguments, Ether was not bigger than Renegade it was a diss that wasn't even a good song Renegade was a classic song from the 2 biggest rappers in the world who have legions of fans. And Ether didn't chart you not even tryin anymore tellin all these lies that are easily disproven, but you don't want to really debate you just want to bytch at me and say the opposite of whatever I say like a petty female.

You are trivializing being Pro Black. You brought it into this discussion when it wasn't warranted. I went in on the subject because you brought it up in a discussion about whether Jay Z was capitalizing on Eminem's fan base by featuring him on "Renegade". Before you made the insane statement about this site being Pro Black, I never made reference to it until you decided to make a mockery of it by associating to The Coli and a discussion on Jay/Eminem. You're perpetrating. I've never before seen anyone on here to prove their Blackness in a discussion about a song. Using Pro Black in a discussion about something as relatively simple as a song is you calling every Black person an N word and making fun of slavery because you're mocking the essence of what it means to be Pro Black.

You didn't point out anything. If words on a screen seem cacish to you then maybe you've spent too much time posting on The Coli and not enough time in the real world around people. Just because I'm not using smilies, calling you names, or using expletives doesn't make me a cac. It's funny that you'd see my words and based off of them would assume that I'm a cac.

Now you're saying I'm autistic. The assumptions just keep coming.

I did not bring race into this. You clearly started along that path.

It's funny that you think I'm complaining about you cursing. Then on top of that claim that I'm a cac just because I said you should be able to express yourself without it. "
A man curses because he doesn't have the words to say what's on his mind.
". I never said Malcolm X didn't use profanity. I know enough about him that he was able to express himself even when he was adamant on his stance that he didn't have to.

What Martin Luther King was speaking of wasn't simply backlash. Riots are far more than backlash.

The Black Panthers were militant because they fit the FULL definition of what it means to be militant.

I can't acknowledge whether it's the normal way you post or not. You're not important enough for me to follow. I do now how you've responded in this thread and you only resorted to all of the smilies after you caught feelings.

Royce being on "Renegade" has everything to do with your statement about Eminem's ORIGINAL version. It was his and Royce's song initially.

You're really going to stand by nobody says "renegaded"? Do you even post on this site? In regard to "stan". Eminem gave it definition when he made the song "Stan". "Ether" popularized it.

"Ether" charted:

Nas - Chart history | Billboard

^^^ It was #46 on the R&B/Hip Hop charts and remained on the charts for 10 weeks.

 

[Stack Money]

You are trivializing being Pro Black. You brought it into this discussion when it wasn't warranted. I went in on the subject because you brought it up in a discussion about whether Jay Z was capitalizing on Eminem's fan base by featuring him on "Renegade". Before you made the insane statement about this site being Pro Black, I never made reference to it until you decided to make a mockery of it by associating to The Coli and a discussion on Jay/Eminem. You're perpetrating. I've never before seen anyone on here to prove their Blackness in a discussion about a song. Using Pro Black in a discussion about something as relatively simple as a song is you calling every Black person an N word and making fun of slavery because you're mocking the essence of what it means to be Pro Black.

You didn't point out anything. If words on a screen seem cacish to you then maybe you've spent too much time posting on The Coli and not enough time in the real world around people. Just because I'm not using smilies, calling you names, or using expletives doesn't make me a cac. It's funny that you'd see my words and based off of them would assume that I'm a cac.

Now you're saying I'm autistic. The assumptions just keep coming.

I did not bring race into this. You clearly started along that path.

It's funny that you think I'm complaining about you cursing. Then on top of that claim that I'm a cac just because I said you should be able to express yourself without it. "
A man curses because he doesn't have the words to say what's on his mind.
". I never said Malcolm X didn't use profanity. I know enough about him that he was able to express himself even when he was adamant on his stance that he didn't have to.

What Martin Luther King was speaking of wasn't simply backlash. Riots are far more than backlash.

The Black Panthers were militant because they fit the FULL definition of what it means to be militant.

I can't acknowledge whether it's the normal way you post or not. You're not important enough for me to follow. I do now how you've responded in this thread and you only resorted to all of the smilies after you caught feelings.

Royce being on "Renegade" has everything to do with your statement about Eminem's ORIGINAL version. It was his and Royce's song initially.

You're really going to stand by nobody says "renegaded"? Do you even post on this site? In regard to "stan". Eminem gave it definition when he made the song "Stan". "Ether" popularized it.

"Ether" charted:

Nas - Chart history | Billboard

^^^ It was #46 on the R&B/Hip Hop charts and remained on the charts for 10 weeks.

You're usin that "trivializin bein pro black" as an excuse to whine about me callin you a cac in a desperate attempt to get me to stop and its not gonna work cac so deal wit it, it was warranted you were capin for Em like a typical suburban cac and I simply pointed it out people always call out cacs like you for makin cac-like posts on here thats never gonna stop so again if you have such a problem wit it then just leave no one wants you on here anyway and you won't change the way this site is so you're wastin your time. So what if I brought it up to someone else I wasn't talkin to YOU so for you to go in about it shows you got butthurt over what I said and felt the need to bytch at me for over 2 weeks now, I made the logical statement about the Coli bein pro black (which everyone on here always says about this site yet you're not in all of those threads bytchin at them for sayin it cause you scared of the backlash:mmmhmmiseeyou: ) cause you a cac makin cac arguments claimin I was wrong for sayin a black man wouldn't cape for Em so hard and cryin over me "generalizin" black men to which I responded by pointin out everyone on this site says things like that BECAUSE this site is pro black then you veered off course and went on a rant about the definition of pro black and threw a hissy fit about this site supposedly not bein pro blackyou conveniently left all of that out (which you always do wit my posts) and acted as if I randomly mentioned the words pro black out of nowhere when I was respondin to your bullshyt about what blacks do. You're the one perpetratin you're clearly a cac pretendin to be black which is why I said you in blackface on here:cacjordan:you keep sayin the things I say about you back to me for no reason other than a petty tit for tat feminine thing cause you have no real retort for what I'm sayin. People get called out for not bein black in all kinds of discussions on here you just complained about some shyt like that happenin in a Future thread, if you in a discussion and make a argument that cacs generally use you're gonna get called out for bein a cac this ain't nothin new I did it to a couple other posters in this thread yet you the only one who caught feelins over it and been naggin me for several weeks about it gee I wonder why that is. fukk outta here wit that bullshyt comparison callin you a cac is not in any way like callin every black the N word or makin fun of slavery it shows how desperate you are to get me to stop callin you a cac that you would reach that far, if anythin YOU makin that comparison is mockin the essence of what it means to be black and black history as a whole YOU just trivialized racism and slavery by comparin those serious subjects to callin a white person a cac (which is a typical thing that a cac would do on some reverse racism bullshyt) people have literally been banned for less on here and once again I'm reportin you for that insultin cac ass shyt.

@ that "only on the Coli do people get called a cac" argument, in the real world people would see you're a cac so they wouldn't even have to say it and would ignore anythin you say off top. If you use words and arguments that only cacs use then they would seem cacish to anyone not just me, I wouldn't think you a cac if you didn't talk like a cac and make blatant arguments about race wit a cac slant on them.

You sure act like you're autistic the way you misinterpret things I say and awkwardly don't get behavioral cues like not bein able to see what ulterior motive Jay could have for biggin up Em in an interview or not makin a connection wit Jay puttin Em as the only feature on his album at the height of Em's fame usin one of Em's own songs to Jay possibly hopin it would make his album sell even more copies, the very fact you went full retard in here not only throwin a temper tantrum over Em but rantin about pro blackness and bein the only one on this site thinkin people on here aren't pro black makes you seem autistic.

No you brought race into this by comin off like a cac capin for the white boy on a pro black site which is why I mentioned it in the first place, I don't know why me sayin anythin about race bothers you so much anyway unless of course...:michaeljordanlaugh:

You don't think anythin I'm sayin is funny if you did you wouldn't be complainin to me about all of thisonly sissified whites get bothered by curse words and say passive aggressive condescendin shyt like "A man curses because he doesn't have the words to say what's on his mind" thats a textbook white statement and you had the audacity to bold and enlarge ityou just further proved you a suburban cac wit that bullshyt cause black men are used to grown men cussin nikkas in the hood talk like this all the time.

Of course Malcolm X didn't cuss alot when speakin to cacs cause they woulda tried to deflect from the point of what he was sayin by focussin on him cussin and claimed he wasn't intelligent cause he cussed the way you are doin wit me right nowthe fact you keep sayin "I know enough about Malcolm X" "I know enough about MLK" exposes that you don't know shyt about them and are tryna overcompensate for it by constantly sayin you know about them when your posts prove otherwise, people who do know don't have to keep sayin it to reinforce their knowledge that tactic reeks of insecurity about your lack of knowledge and is a blatant attempt at tryna convince people you black but we know better cac.

Riots are the epitome of backlash race riots always happen in response to some injustice that your cac brethren inflicted upon us and MLK was warnin yall about that, I just gave you the FULL definition of what it means to be militant its not always about physical force which is why the definition says "TYPICALLY favorin extreme violent or confrontational methods" not ALWAYS favorin those methods and X was militant cause his ideology and some of his tactics fit the "combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause" part of the definition while MLK didn't fit the definition especially when a big part of his legacy are his peaceful marches holdin hands while cacs were literally spittin on and shootin at him.

Funny you were claimin you know how I post before but now that I proved you wrong you backpedalin and tryna switch to that "you're not important enough for me to follow" bullshyt, evidently I'm important enough for you to bytch at in a back and forth for over 2 weeks tho:patriotscamumad:all because I said somethin about Em to someone else that made YOU catch feelins which you're tryna project onto me wit that "you weren't postin like this before" nonsense. Unlike you the other posters in here weren't makin paragraphs full of bullshyt so I didn't need to break down what they said wit these long posts but when idiots like you get mad at me I always clown wit smilies, thats why mrken12 is still followin me around these boards and at this rate you're well on your way to bein like him you already arguin wit me for weeks on end like he did I bet you'll be doin this for the next month like he did too.:iversondisgusted:

Royce has nothin to do wit my statement I already mentioned in this thread a few times that he was on Em's original version instead of Jay I don't know why you think thats so important to what I'm sayin right now, if anythin that further proves me right Jay took off Royce's verses and replaced them wit his own but left Em on who conveniently has a ton of fans while Royce doesn't so you bringin Royce up actually supports what I'm sayin about Jay's motives for usin that song wit Em. Smarten up.

Are YOU really gonna stand by that "Renegaded is a popular word in hip hop culture the way Stan is" statement? A few posters on the Coli sayin it once in a while in no way makes it the big hip hop term you claimin it is definitely nowhere near as big as "Stan" which is used outside of hip hop circles in mainstream culture, Stan popularized the word stan dumbass that was a huge Em song it was a hit wit a big production video one of his biggest singles and arguably his most critically acclaimed song Ether bein #46 on the Hip Hop/R&B charts just shows it wasn't the big song that Stan was which went to #51 on the Billboard Hot 100. Stop arguin bullshyt just to argue wit me cause I made you furious, better yet stop quotin me period cac cause I already "Ethered" you badly in here so you're dismissed.

 

[JustCKing]

You're usin that "trivializin bein pro black" as an excuse to whine about me callin you a cac in a desperate attempt to get me to stop and its not gonna work cac so deal wit it, it was warranted you were capin for Em like a typical suburban cac and I simply pointed it out people always call out cacs like you for makin cac-like posts on here thats never gonna stop so again if you have such a problem wit it then just leave no one wants you on here anyway and you won't change the way this site is so you're wastin your time. So what if I brought it up to someone else I wasn't talkin to YOU so for you to go in about it shows you got butthurt over what I said and felt the need to bytch at me for over 2 weeks now, I made the logical statement about the Coli bein pro black (which everyone on here always says about this site yet you're not in all of those threads bytchin at them for sayin it cause you scared of the backlash:mmmhmmiseeyou: ) cause you a cac makin cac arguments claimin I was wrong for sayin a black man wouldn't cape for Em so hard and cryin over me "generalizin" black men to which I responded by pointin out everyone on this site says things like that BECAUSE this site is pro black then you veered off course and went on a rant about the definition of pro black and threw a hissy fit about this site supposedly not bein pro blackyou conveniently left all of that out (which you always do wit my posts) and acted as if I randomly mentioned the words pro black out of nowhere when I was respondin to your bullshyt about what blacks do. You're the one perpetratin you're clearly a cac pretendin to be black which is why I said you in blackface on here:cacjordan:you keep sayin the things I say about you back to me for no reason other than a petty tit for tat feminine thing cause you have no real retort for what I'm sayin. People get called out for not bein black in all kinds of discussions on here you just complained about some shyt like that happenin in a Future thread, if you in a discussion and make a argument that cacs generally use you're gonna get called out for bein a cac this ain't nothin new I did it to a couple other posters in this thread yet you the only one who caught feelins over it and been naggin me for several weeks about it gee I wonder why that is. fukk outta here wit that bullshyt comparison callin you a cac is not in any way like callin every black the N word or makin fun of slavery it shows how desperate you are to get me to stop callin you a cac that you would reach that far, if anythin YOU makin that comparison is mockin the essence of what it means to be black and black history as a whole YOU just trivialized racism and slavery by comparin those serious subjects to callin a white person a cac (which is a typical thing that a cac would do on some reverse racism bullshyt) people have literally been banned for less on here and once again I'm reportin you for that insultin cac ass shyt.

@ that "only on the Coli do people get called a cac" argument, in the real world people would see you're a cac so they wouldn't even have to say it and would ignore anythin you say off top. If you use words and arguments that only cacs use then they would seem cacish to anyone not just me, I wouldn't think you a cac if you didn't talk like a cac and make blatant arguments about race wit a cac slant on them.

You sure act like you're autistic the way you misinterpret things I say and awkwardly don't get behavioral cues like not bein able to see what ulterior motive Jay could have for biggin up Em in an interview or not makin a connection wit Jay puttin Em as the only feature on his album at the height of Em's fame usin one of Em's own songs to Jay possibly hopin it would make his album sell even more copies, the very fact you went full retard in here not only throwin a temper tantrum over Em but rantin about pro blackness and bein the only one on this site thinkin people on here aren't pro black makes you seem autistic.

No you brought race into this by comin off like a cac capin for the white boy on a pro black site which is why I mentioned it in the first place, I don't know why me sayin anythin about race bothers you so much anyway unless of course...:michaeljordanlaugh:

You don't think anythin I'm sayin is funny if you did you wouldn't be complainin to me about all of thisonly sissified whites get bothered by curse words and say passive aggressive condescendin shyt like "A man curses because he doesn't have the words to say what's on his mind" thats a textbook white statement and you had the audacity to bold and enlarge ityou just further proved you a suburban cac wit that bullshyt cause black men are used to grown men cussin nikkas in the hood talk like this all the time.

Of course Malcolm X didn't cuss alot when speakin to cacs cause they woulda tried to deflect from the point of what he was sayin by focussin on him cussin and claimed he wasn't intelligent cause he cussed the way you are doin wit me right nowthe fact you keep sayin "I know enough about Malcolm X" "I know enough about MLK" exposes that you don't know shyt about them and are tryna overcompensate for it by constantly sayin you know about them when your posts prove otherwise, people who do know don't have to keep sayin it to reinforce their knowledge that tactic reeks of insecurity about your lack of knowledge and is a blatant attempt at tryna convince people you black but we know better cac.

Riots are the epitome of backlash race riots always happen in response to some injustice that your cac brethren inflicted upon us and MLK was warnin yall about that, I just gave you the FULL definition of what it means to be militant its not always about physical force which is why the definition says "TYPICALLY favorin extreme violent or confrontational methods" not ALWAYS favorin those methods and X was militant cause his ideology and some of his tactics fit the "combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause" part of the definition while MLK didn't fit the definition especially when a big part of his legacy are his peaceful marches holdin hands while cacs were literally spittin on and shootin at him.

Funny you were claimin you know how I post before but now that I proved you wrong you backpedalin and tryna switch to that "you're not important enough for me to follow" bullshyt, evidently I'm important enough for you to bytch at in a back and forth for over 2 weeks tho:patriotscamumad:all because I said somethin about Em to someone else that made YOU catch feelins which you're tryna project onto me wit that "you weren't postin like this before" nonsense. Unlike you the other posters in here weren't makin paragraphs full of bullshyt so I didn't need to break down what they said wit these long posts but when idiots like you get mad at me I always clown wit smilies, thats why mrken12 is still followin me around these boards and at this rate you're well on your way to bein like him you already arguin wit me for weeks on end like he did I bet you'll be doin this for the next month like he did too.:iversondisgusted:

Royce has nothin to do wit my statement I already mentioned in this thread a few times that he was on Em's original version instead of Jay I don't know why you think thats so important to what I'm sayin right now, if anythin that further proves me right Jay took off Royce's verses and replaced them wit his own but left Em on who conveniently has a ton of fans while Royce doesn't so you bringin Royce up actually supports what I'm sayin about Jay's motives for usin that song wit Em. Smarten up.

Are YOU really gonna stand by that "Renegaded is a popular word in hip hop culture the way Stan is" statement? A few posters on the Coli sayin it once in a while in no way makes it the big hip hop term you claimin it is definitely nowhere near as big as "Stan" which is used outside of hip hop circles in mainstream culture, Stan popularized the word stan dumbass that was a huge Em song it was a hit wit a big production video one of his biggest singles and arguably his most critically acclaimed song Ether bein #46 on the Hip Hop/R&B charts just shows it wasn't the big song that Stan was which went to #51 on the Billboard Hot 100. Stop arguin bullshyt just to argue wit me cause I made you furious, better yet stop quotin me period cac cause I already "Ethered" you badly in here so you're dismissed.

I am not using anything as an excuse. You're the one who introduced Pro Black into the discussion, then tried to say you didn't, which clearly you did. I'm pointing out that you trivialized being Pro Black by even using that in a relatively measly discussion about "Renegade". You're not Pro Black. You're not militant. The Coli isn't Pro Black nor is it militant. You're a gimmick poster and even more sickening is people who continue to push this myth that The Coli is Pro Black. You got posters on here who take Anthony Fontana's word as gospel when it's convenient. Posters who still use Complex and Noisey and the standard for music. Even worse posters complained about why this site was ranked so low on Complex. Why are you even looking to them if you purport yourself to be Pro Black?

You love to point out fallacies when your argument (really the lack thereof) is full of them. You've spent pages making erroneous assumptions, misdiagnosing me, making a mockery of what it means to be Pro Black, and disrespecting Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, all because you couldn't substantiate your claims. That's an all time low for any poster in the history of posting on an Internet forum. Just posts full of flaw and fraudulence displaying that you'll go to any length at an attempt to win an argument. Gimmick posting.

You claim to be Pro Black, but you're in this thread claiming that Black man is trying to capitalize off of the fan base of a white artist even when said Black artist was selling millions of records on his own. Put it this way, when Jay Z is capitalizing on an artist's fan base, he's milking it for everything it's worth. Case in point: "Part II" (his collabo with Beyoncé). They made a mini trailer for that one song and trolled many into believing a movie would follow. On top of it, they toured together. It's a Grammy nominated record that charted before they even officially released it as a single. When Jay Z did "Empire State of Mind" with Alicia Keys. It's a song they've performed together all over the world. Jay and Eminem didn't perform "Renegade" together until 10 years after the fact.

What are these words and arguments that only cacs use? What exactly is talking like a cac?

As far as cuss words, you don't even recognize a quote from the movie Malcolm X. Furthermore, Malcolm X abstained from fornication, cursing, and a host of other things once he became a Muslim.

Royce is relevant here because "Renegade" is a Bad Meets Evil (Royce and Eminem) song. Jay Z removed Royce for whatever reason. It's not the first time Jay Z took someone else's song. He took a Camp Lo record too.

I never said "Ether" was bigger than "Stan". I said "Ether" was bigger than "Renegade".
Where did I say that militants always favor those methods? Again, Malcolm X wasn't a militant. He's someone who spoke his mind and didn't care what people took from it.
You make up these assumptions because you couldn't back up your weak argument. You conclude that I have to be an Eminem stan because I disagreed with your statement. Then you continued to diagnose me with autism.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Classic whether you punk asses wanna admit it or not.

Anyway I'm a relative young'in on this site (23) so I really got into hip-hop around the early 2000s, and this was the second album I ever bought after Dre's '2001'.

Like all corny kids, this was the first rapper I really got into, but I can't say I listen to this anymore, or any of Em's music for that matter.

Still though, awesome album. Criminal is the track!

 

[Stack Money]

I am not using anything as an excuse. You're the one who introduced Pro Black into the discussion, then tried to say you didn't, which clearly you did. I'm pointing out that you trivialized being Pro Black by even using that in a relatively measly discussion about "Renegade". You're not Pro Black. You're not militant. The Coli isn't Pro Black nor is it militant. You're a gimmick poster and even more sickening is people who continue to push this myth that The Coli is Pro Black. You got posters on here who take Anthony Fontana's word as gospel when it's convenient. Posters who still use Complex and Noisey and the standard for music. Even worse posters complained about why this site was ranked so low on Complex. Why are you even looking to them if you purport yourself to be Pro Black?

You love to point out fallacies when your argument (really the lack thereof) is full of them. You've spent pages making erroneous assumptions, misdiagnosing me, making a mockery of what it means to be Pro Black, and disrespecting Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, all because you couldn't substantiate your claims. That's an all time low for any poster in the history of posting on an Internet forum. Just posts full of flaw and fraudulence displaying that you'll go to any length at an attempt to win an argument. Gimmick posting.

You claim to be Pro Black, but you're in this thread claiming that Black man is trying to capitalize off of the fan base of a white artist even when said Black artist was selling millions of records on his own. Put it this way, when Jay Z is capitalizing on an artist's fan base, he's milking it for everything it's worth. Case in point: "Part II" (his collabo with Beyoncé). They made a mini trailer for that one song and trolled many into believing a movie would follow. On top of it, they toured together. It's a Grammy nominated record that charted before they even officially released it as a single. When Jay Z did "Empire State of Mind" with Alicia Keys. It's a song they've performed together all over the world. Jay and Eminem didn't perform "Renegade" together until 10 years after the fact.

What are these words and arguments that only cacs use? What exactly is talking like a cac?

As far as cuss words, you don't even recognize a quote from the movie Malcolm X. Furthermore, Malcolm X abstained from fornication, cursing, and a host of other things once he became a Muslim.

Royce is relevant here because "Renegade" is a Bad Meets Evil (Royce and Eminem) song. Jay Z removed Royce for whatever reason. It's not the first time Jay Z took someone else's song. He took a Camp Lo record too.

I never said "Ether" was bigger than "Stan". I said "Ether" was bigger than "Renegade".
Where did I say that militants always favor those methods? Again, Malcolm X wasn't a militant. He's someone who spoke his mind and didn't care what people took from it.
You make up these assumptions because you couldn't back up your weak argument. You conclude that I have to be an Eminem stan because I disagreed with your statement. Then you continued to diagnose me with autism.

You still bytchin at me loser, I had a feelin you'd circle back around a couple days later while thinkin about this and gettin mad again. I forgot how rabid you Em stans are yall obsessive when someone insults your idol and will relentlessly bytch at them for months and even years on end, I've seen you stans on other sites act like this so you just further provin that you a cac Em stan refusin to let it go but nothin you say is gonna change anythin I'm never gonna co-sign your nonsense so you wastin your time.:stephenasmithsleep: You said somethin about blacks not all bein alike as a respnse to me pointin out you a cac and I said everyone on this site does that cause its a pro black site then YOU derailed the discussion by throwin a fit over the definition of pro black, I made one statement about pro black and you turned it into an entire separate argument so you clearly brought it into the discussion by makin it a discussion in the first place. You keep tryna downtalk the Renegade discussion now but if its so measly you wouldn't be whinin to me about it for almost 3 weeks instead of keepin it movin, you're only sayin the discussion was no big deal to support your new argument of it not bein necessary to mention the words pro black when as I told you everyone on this site calls out cacs like you when they make posts that show they're obviously cacs because the site is pro black (thats actually where I first used the term in reference to pointin out why everyone on here does it, you turned it into a big discussion on the definition of pro black in your ensuin butthurt rant about posters on the site callin you a cac all the time). Get the fukk outta here wit yet another rant about this site you keep sayin all these things to me about other threads that made you mad but STILL won't take those issues up wit all those posters cause you scared of gettin ethered and banned, I don't care what random post made you furious this week but for the last time if you hate this site so much then LEAVE cac we don't want you here anyway cause we are PRO BLACK no matter how much you try to deny it. You desperately tryna convince us that this site isn't pro black cause we don't act the way YOU want us to which is typical of an arrogant cac thinkin he can dictate to blacks on how to behave and define who we are, you keep exposin yourself as a cac attemptin to sabotage a pro black site wit your cac rhetoric thats why you refuse to simply leave the site you hopin to mislead blacks into bein c00ns like Khalid Muhammad said yall do. Callin us bein pro black a "myth" and sayin it's "sickenin" is exactly what a racist cac would say, its sickenin to you cause you like all your cac brethren hate pro blacks so you try to knock us off course and trick us by tellin us bein docile is pro black but we not fallin for the okey doke. The myth is this site NOT bein pro black which is only comin from a cac pretendin to be black, YOU'RE the gimmick poster the stereotypical "white guy playin black online to fit in while still spewin cac talkin points and attemptin to shut down the pro black mindset on here".:cacjordan:

My argument is solid I point out all your fallacies cause you have so many, you keep deflectin onto different arguments cause you didn't have enough ammo to properly continue the Em argument and caught feelins when I pointed out you a cac, we have a number of autistic posters on here and you act just like they do (obsessively fixate on certain topics not lettin them go get emotional easily are delusional have views that most disagree wit cause the autistic mind works differently than the mind of normal people) so I'm just callin it like I see it same wit the cac label if the shoe fitsyou real upset (as usual) about me sayin you autistic so I must've hit a nerve there too but once again nikkas point out autistic posters on here all the time. You not even usin words properly like "gimmick postin" further highlights your autism and projectin sayin those things about me when they apply to you is prolly another autistic trait since you not in touch wit reality, the only one who disrespected Malcolm X and MLK is you for not only pretendin to be black but for b*stardizin the definition of pro black and feignin outrage over the word in a pathetic attempt to distract from the original topic when you couldn't refute my statements or substantiate YOUR claims. Quit bein a drama queen like a homotional sissy nothin I'm sayin hasn't been said tons of times on this forum alone, what you doin wit the blackface and cac sabotage is an all time low in the history of forums you really should be banned for your anti-pro black rhetoric.

Here we go now you tryna connect your definition of pro black to the original discussion and claim bein pro black means co-signin your Em argumentshoulda known you'd try some bullshyt reach like that eventually. I never said Jay NEEDED Em's fans but Jay bein the businessman that he is will always strive to be more successful and puttin Em on was a way to make his album even bigger, put it THIS WAY those other examples don't mean that he only plays it that way everytime he capitalizes on somethin he capitalized on Takeover too but didn't put a single out either and both Takeover and Renegade are the biggest tracks from the album without bein singles showin he didn't have to do all that extra shyt to capitalize off it cause the hype was all the promotion needed. I mean you even tried to say Renegaded is a huge term in the hip hop lexiconwhich if that were true would prove my point that single's and videos weren't necessary for him to capitalize on it.

Don't play dumb you been sayin shyt all thru this thread that only cacs say, I never seen a black man cape for Em so hard over somethin so small or say blacks who put down another race aren't pro black by that cac logic the Black Panthers and Nat Turner weren't pro black cause they killed whitesno black man would say some stupid shyt like that and you best believe the Panthers and especially Nat Turner who was a slave gettin whipped by those crackas had a ton of disparagin things to say about white people way worse than what we say on here so by usin your dumb argument you're also sayin they weren't pro black. Cac shyt.

Typical cac in blackface watchin a movie about Malcolm X (where you no doubt got all your info from) thinkin that makes you knowledgeable on the brotha as a whole, you did your little homework by listenin to Pac and watchin X so now you think you fit in and are surprised that I still see thru your bullshyt. You ain't the first cac on here tryna fake the funk and won't be the last, real recognize real and you look mad unfamiliar to us blacks cac. If you really knew about X you'd know he was notorious for fukkin white bytches (pro blacks still give him a asterisk for that til this day) so if he was doin that he was definitely cussin around his boys at home.

That doesn't make Royce relevant I've said in every post it was an Em song gettin specific and sayin "Bad Meets Evil" doesn't add anythin new to this, @ "Jay removed Royce for whatever reason" I already pointed out the reason Royce ain't got no fans but Em has a legion of them Jay replacin Royce's verses wit his own just proves my point that Jay wanted Em's fanbase to buy it if Royce had a large fanbase best believe he woulda kept his shyt on there too.:mmmhmmiseeyou: Camp Lo were underground so you can infer that he did THAT cause he had respect for them and fukked wit their music, but when he does the same thing wit the biggest rapper in the world at the height of his fame while removin the rapper who has few fans and replaces that rapper's verse wit his own to remake a song which both that big rapper and his own army of fans bumped on the regular its pretty easy to see there was an ulterior motive besides "you got skills so I'm puttin you on as my only feature". Smarten up autistic cac.

You did say Ether was bigger than Stan by sayin Ether popularized the term stan even tho Stan was a hit song and introduced the term to the world, Ether is irrelevant to Renegade so I don't know why you'd even compare the 2 songs like that.

You said X wasn't militant cause he didn't favor those methods you keep double talkin when I catch you in another lie, X was militant cause he fit the definition I showed you. You're projectin again YOU can't back up your weak arguments so you deflect onto pro black and all of these side arguments hopin I forget what you originally said about Em, I called you a stan cause only a true Em stan would argue for almost 3 weeks over someone sayin to another person that Jay used him for sales. You real sensitive about me callin you autistic which lets me further know I was right, you claim you been on this site for awhile so you should know people always call out posters for exhibitin signs of autism cause this site unfortunately has more than a few members who are blatantly autistic.

 

[Pifford]

Jesus Christ, dudes writing novels in here

 

[JustCKing]

You still bytchin at me loser, I had a feelin you'd circle back around a couple days later while thinkin about this and gettin mad again. I forgot how rabid you Em stans are yall obsessive when someone insults your idol and will relentlessly bytch at them for months and even years on end, I've seen you stans on other sites act like this so you just further provin that you a cac Em stan refusin to let it go but nothin you say is gonna change anythin I'm never gonna co-sign your nonsense so you wastin your time.:stephenasmithsleep: You said somethin about blacks not all bein alike as a respnse to me pointin out you a cac and I said everyone on this site does that cause its a pro black site then YOU derailed the discussion by throwin a fit over the definition of pro black, I made one statement about pro black and you turned it into an entire separate argument so you clearly brought it into the discussion by makin it a discussion in the first place. You keep tryna downtalk the Renegade discussion now but if its so measly you wouldn't be whinin to me about it for almost 3 weeks instead of keepin it movin, you're only sayin the discussion was no big deal to support your new argument of it not bein necessary to mention the words pro black when as I told you everyone on this site calls out cacs like you when they make posts that show they're obviously cacs because the site is pro black (thats actually where I first used the term in reference to pointin out why everyone on here does it, you turned it into a big discussion on the definition of pro black in your ensuin butthurt rant about posters on the site callin you a cac all the time). Get the fukk outta here wit yet another rant about this site you keep sayin all these things to me about other threads that made you mad but STILL won't take those issues up wit all those posters cause you scared of gettin ethered and banned, I don't care what random post made you furious this week but for the last time if you hate this site so much then LEAVE cac we don't want you here anyway cause we are PRO BLACK no matter how much you try to deny it. You desperately tryna convince us that this site isn't pro black cause we don't act the way YOU want us to which is typical of an arrogant cac thinkin he can dictate to blacks on how to behave and define who we are, you keep exposin yourself as a cac attemptin to sabotage a pro black site wit your cac rhetoric thats why you refuse to simply leave the site you hopin to mislead blacks into bein c00ns like Khalid Muhammad said yall do. Callin us bein pro black a "myth" and sayin it's "sickenin" is exactly what a racist cac would say, its sickenin to you cause you like all your cac brethren hate pro blacks so you try to knock us off course and trick us by tellin us bein docile is pro black but we not fallin for the okey doke. The myth is this site NOT bein pro black which is only comin from a cac pretendin to be black, YOU'RE the gimmick poster the stereotypical "white guy playin black online to fit in while still spewin cac talkin points and attemptin to shut down the pro black mindset on here".:cacjordan:

My argument is solid I point out all your fallacies cause you have so many, you keep deflectin onto different arguments cause you didn't have enough ammo to properly continue the Em argument and caught feelins when I pointed out you a cac, we have a number of autistic posters on here and you act just like they do (obsessively fixate on certain topics not lettin them go get emotional easily are delusional have views that most disagree wit cause the autistic mind works differently than the mind of normal people) so I'm just callin it like I see it same wit the cac label if the shoe fitsyou real upset (as usual) about me sayin you autistic so I must've hit a nerve there too but once again nikkas point out autistic posters on here all the time. You not even usin words properly like "gimmick postin" further highlights your autism and projectin sayin those things about me when they apply to you is prolly another autistic trait since you not in touch wit reality, the only one who disrespected Malcolm X and MLK is you for not only pretendin to be black but for b*stardizin the definition of pro black and feignin outrage over the word in a pathetic attempt to distract from the original topic when you couldn't refute my statements or substantiate YOUR claims. Quit bein a drama queen like a homotional sissy nothin I'm sayin hasn't been said tons of times on this forum alone, what you doin wit the blackface and cac sabotage is an all time low in the history of forums you really should be banned for your anti-pro black rhetoric.

Here we go now you tryna connect your definition of pro black to the original discussion and claim bein pro black means co-signin your Em argumentshoulda known you'd try some bullshyt reach like that eventually. I never said Jay NEEDED Em's fans but Jay bein the businessman that he is will always strive to be more successful and puttin Em on was a way to make his album even bigger, put it THIS WAY those other examples don't mean that he only plays it that way everytime he capitalizes on somethin he capitalized on Takeover too but didn't put a single out either and both Takeover and Renegade are the biggest tracks from the album without bein singles showin he didn't have to do all that extra shyt to capitalize off it cause the hype was all the promotion needed. I mean you even tried to say Renegaded is a huge term in the hip hop lexiconwhich if that were true would prove my point that single's and videos weren't necessary for him to capitalize on it.

Don't play dumb you been sayin shyt all thru this thread that only cacs say, I never seen a black man cape for Em so hard over somethin so small or say blacks who put down another race aren't pro black by that cac logic the Black Panthers and Nat Turner weren't pro black cause they killed whitesno black man would say some stupid shyt like that and you best believe the Panthers and especially Nat Turner who was a slave gettin whipped by those crackas had a ton of disparagin things to say about white people way worse than what we say on here so by usin your dumb argument you're also sayin they weren't pro black. Cac shyt.

Typical cac in blackface watchin a movie about Malcolm X (where you no doubt got all your info from) thinkin that makes you knowledgeable on the brotha as a whole, you did your little homework by listenin to Pac and watchin X so now you think you fit in and are surprised that I still see thru your bullshyt. You ain't the first cac on here tryna fake the funk and won't be the last, real recognize real and you look mad unfamiliar to us blacks cac. If you really knew about X you'd know he was notorious for fukkin white bytches (pro blacks still give him a asterisk for that til this day) so if he was doin that he was definitely cussin around his boys at home.

That doesn't make Royce relevant I've said in every post it was an Em song gettin specific and sayin "Bad Meets Evil" doesn't add anythin new to this, @ "Jay removed Royce for whatever reason" I already pointed out the reason Royce ain't got no fans but Em has a legion of them Jay replacin Royce's verses wit his own just proves my point that Jay wanted Em's fanbase to buy it if Royce had a large fanbase best believe he woulda kept his shyt on there too.:mmmhmmiseeyou: Camp Lo were underground so you can infer that he did THAT cause he had respect for them and fukked wit their music, but when he does the same thing wit the biggest rapper in the world at the height of his fame while removin the rapper who has few fans and replaces that rapper's verse wit his own to remake a song which both that big rapper and his own army of fans bumped on the regular its pretty easy to see there was an ulterior motive besides "you got skills so I'm puttin you on as my only feature". Smarten up autistic cac.

You did say Ether was bigger than Stan by sayin Ether popularized the term stan even tho Stan was a hit song and introduced the term to the world, Ether is irrelevant to Renegade so I don't know why you'd even compare the 2 songs like that.

You said X wasn't militant cause he didn't favor those methods you keep double talkin when I catch you in another lie, X was militant cause he fit the definition I showed you. You're projectin again YOU can't back up your weak arguments so you deflect onto pro black and all of these side arguments hopin I forget what you originally said about Em, I called you a stan cause only a true Em stan would argue for almost 3 weeks over someone sayin to another person that Jay used him for sales. You real sensitive about me callin you autistic which lets me further know I was right, you claim you been on this site for awhile so you should know people always call out posters for exhibitin signs of autism cause this site unfortunately has more than a few members who are blatantly autistic.

I'm an Eminem stan yet you're the one who has made the most positive posts about him since you started replying. Then again, you HAVE to make me out to be an Eminem stan to justify your argument, which you don't have. You're arguing at me instead of arguing your point which you've gone off on a tangent and made me the focus which is quite weird to be honest.

I didn't turn being Pro Black into a separate arguing. That wasn't my intention. Now I will admit, that is something that I'm very passionate about. I don't like when people throw that around in trivial matters. If we were discussing something like Eminem being racist, that's a different discussion because it's a deeper conversation beyond music. Using being Pro Black as a means to justify an argument about a song, nah. You crossed a line.

I didn't downplay the "Renegade" discussion. I said that it is relatively measly (in relation to a much deeper discussion on MLK, Malcolm X, and being Pro Black). Being Pro Black has nothing to do with calling out cacs. A lot of posters who use the term are cacs themselves which makes it even worse when posters like you try to associate being Pro Black with "calling out cacs".

I got at every user in those threads that I pointed out and I'm still here.

Nobody's trying to tell you to be docile and fall for the okey doke. You are the okey doke. I don't have to fit in. I don't need validation.

Jay did capitalize on "Takeover". He performed verses from it at Summer Jam and baited Nas. He put Prodigy on the Summer Jam screen. And yes "renegaded" is a part of the hip Hop lexicon. Whether people are saying "renegaded" or they are quoting the Nas line from "Ether" in regard to another MC having the better verse on a guest appearance.

If Royce isn't relevant, why are you arguing the point? Royce, like Camp Lo was underground too. Who is to say that Jay didn't like and respect Royce. It isn't the first song that Royce got removed from by a major rapper. RoyceI'm not even sure if "You Can't Touch Me" was out yet when Blueprint dropped.


I knew who Malcolm X was before I ever heard a Pac verse. All of my information about Malcolm X didn't come from a movie. It's obvious you know nothing about him though. Of course he had a past just like every one who ever lived. When he converted, he obviously didn't engage in those activities. And yes, I know that he pimped women, was a runner, smoked weed, drank and did all those things. Sadly you focus on his past before he converted and became Malcolm X just to win an argument.

Malcolm X doesn't fit your definition of militant because you bolded parts of the definition (and they still don't fit). Malcolm X advocated self-defense and if it meant taking the life of the oppressor then so be it. If it meant losing one's own life for it, then so be it. That's not being militant. That's called survival. Many people practice self-defense as a means to protect themselves and even learn kill moves in the event they have to use them. That doesn't make them militant. The Black Panthers were militant and justifiably so because violence was the only language racist officers understood.

Killing white people has nothing to do with being Pro Black. Pro Black is when Black people are comfortable in their own skin and proud of who they are. It has nothing to do with how white people perceive us as Black people or what we think of whites because it doesn't matter.