I'm an Eminem stan yet you're the one who has made the most positive posts about him since you started replying. Then again, you HAVE to make me out to be an Eminem stan to justify your argument, which you don't have. You're arguing at me instead of arguing your point which you've gone off on a tangent and made me the focus which is quite weird to be honest.
I didn't turn being Pro Black into a separate arguing. That wasn't my intention. Now I will admit, that is something that I'm very passionate about. I don't like when people throw that around in trivial matters. If we were discussing something like Eminem being racist, that's a different discussion because it's a deeper conversation beyond music. Using being Pro Black as a means to justify an argument about a song, nah. You crossed a line.
I didn't downplay the "Renegade" discussion. I said that it is relatively measly (in relation to a much deeper discussion on MLK, Malcolm X, and being Pro Black). Being Pro Black has nothing to do with calling out cacs. A lot of posters who use the term are cacs themselves which makes it even worse when posters like you try to associate being Pro Black with "calling out cacs".
I got at every user in those threads that I pointed out and I'm still here.
Nobody's trying to tell you to be docile and fall for the okey doke. You are the okey doke. I don't have to fit in. I don't need validation.
Jay did capitalize on "Takeover". He performed verses from it at Summer Jam and baited Nas. He put Prodigy on the Summer Jam screen. And yes "renegaded" is a part of the hip Hop lexicon. Whether people are saying "renegaded" or they are quoting the Nas line from "Ether" in regard to another MC having the better verse on a guest appearance.
If Royce isn't relevant, why are you arguing the point? Royce, like Camp Lo was underground too. Who is to say that Jay didn't like and respect Royce. It isn't the first song that Royce got removed from by a major rapper. RoyceI'm not even sure if "You Can't Touch Me" was out yet when Blueprint dropped.
I knew who Malcolm X was before I ever heard a Pac verse. All of my information about Malcolm X didn't come from a movie. It's obvious you know nothing about him though. Of course he had a past just like every one who ever lived. When he converted, he obviously didn't engage in those activities. And yes, I know that he pimped women, was a runner, smoked weed, drank and did all those things. Sadly you focus on his past before he converted and became Malcolm X just to win an argument.
Malcolm X doesn't fit your definition of militant because you bolded parts of the definition (and they still don't fit). Malcolm X advocated self-defense and if it meant taking the life of the oppressor then so be it. If it meant losing one's own life for it, then so be it. That's not being militant. That's called survival. Many people practice self-defense as a means to protect themselves and even learn kill moves in the event they have to use them. That doesn't make them militant. The Black Panthers were militant and justifiably so because violence was the only language racist officers understood.
Killing white people has nothing to do with being Pro Black. Pro Black is when Black people are comfortable in their own skin and proud of who they are. It has nothing to do with how white people perceive us as Black people or what we think of whites because it doesn't matter.
After a long vacation I decide to log onto the Coli and see an alert from your cac ass who I forgot even existed, like I said before you Em stans are relentless in your passionate defense of your idol from any and all slights. The fact you even engaged me in this argument when I was never talkin to you cause you got offended by what I said about your cac hero proves what a stan you are, and you acknowledge I've said positive things about him yet you still bytchin at me cause I won't say one thing about him that you want which further shows what a rabid ass stan you really are.
I've long justified my argument not that I ever needed to justify shyt to your worthless ass YOU'RE the one who hasn't justified your crybaby retorts and literally went off on tangents about everythin from Em's legend status to the Coli as a site to MLK and the Black Panthers
but you got the nerve to accuse me of goin on tangents, you made me the focus of your whinin the moment you replied to me cause your corny ass is emotional over me not puttin respeck on Feminem's name.
Shut your cac ass up bytch you ain't passionate about Pro Black you ain't even black to be passionate about ityou just another insecure cac overcompensatin for his paleness on here thinkin fakin the funk on the afro tip will make you look down, I brought up race cause yours plays a large part in your whole stannery of this guy and is why you so emotional over him you in e-blackface which is far from trivial its disgustin that you on a pro black site (thats right I said it!
) puttin on airs meanin YOU crossed a line and I called you out on it point blank period.
Bein pro black has to do wit callin out cacs who pretend to be black on a black website while spreadin cac propaganda, and you would know about posters usin the term cacs bein cacs themselves since that describes you which makes it even worse that you are tryna lecture me or any ACTUAL black man on what it means to be pro black.
You got ethered by every user in those threads which is why you still mad about it and randomly vented to me off topic on one of those tangents I mentioned, you the cac usin every single whitebread argument in the book to cape for Eminem of all people and parlay that into tellin blacks how to "properly" be pro black like not call out cacs or make whites feel uncomfortable which is the epitome of the okey doke.
You a double agent for white supremacy that makes YOU the literal okey doke, you need all the validation you can get cause your posts expose you for a subvertin cac who no one takes seriously explainin why you get labeled a cac all the time like you were cryin to me about before.
See you switchin up the definition of "capitalize" cause you were talkin bout singles before now you sayin he capitalized on Takeover by performin it live which obviously he's done for Renegade, no "Renegaded" is not part of the hip hop lexicon this is why cacs like you don't get to define whats hip hop cause you so out of touch you have no idea what you talkin bout. Some cacs/corny lames years ago said that shyt on a forum and you think its widespread like errbody says it the way they say "Ether"that Nas line has nothin to do wit the term "Renegaded" so quit tryna equate the 2 you rarely if ever hear nikkas say that shyt yet cats in all walks of life be sayin Ether pretendin like they the same further exemplifies how out of touch you are wit black culture.
YOU arguin the point you felt the need to bring Royce back up after I mentioned him earlier in the thread, if Jay liked and respected Royce so much he wouldn't have clapped his ass from the song and replaced his shyt wit his own verses idiot.:michaeljordanlaugh:
Methinks thou doth protest too much, just like your "I know enough about Malcolm/I know enough about MLK" lines you think cause you say that shyt it gives you credibility as if anyone is gonna believe your cac ass. FOH I know more about him than you ever could cause I'm actually black, the fact you even mentionin knowin X from Pac verses and movies shows thats exactly where you know him from and are tryna project your square pale upbringin onto me. You claim you know his background yet neglected to acknowledge it until I brought it up:mmmhmmiseeyou:and like it or not (I know you cacs hate it) that part of his past was a big part of the man he eventually became and in true sissfied cac fashion you cry about me mentionin it claimin I'm doin it "to win an argument" cause you mad you can't refute the point I make so you gotta try to discredit my reason for bringin it up like a typical cac.
X does fit my definition of militant the parts I bolded are the parts he fit dikkhead, murkin a cac for the cause is the definition of militant playin semantics callin it survival is YOU tryna win an argument usin cac tactics like that overly technical wordplay.The Black Panthers were doin what they did for survival too cac it wasn't just war on crackas for the hell of it they were bein murdered like animals look at how your people did Fred Hampton blacks were gettin gunned up like that on the regular of course they were militant to fight fire wit fire but it was no different than what X advocated you thinkin they was on some other shyt further highlights how misinformed you are cac.
Killin white people is sometimes what bein pro black isthats what you tryna downplay you want to dress it up and convince brothas they don't gotta get violent wit you cacs knowin yall never hesitate to use violence against us, this that subversion I was talkin bout your "comfortable in your own skin" definition is more docile okey doke shyt tellin us to just "be" and not be ready to throw down when the time comes thats why its even more of a joke for you to say "our" "us" and "we" cause your thought process alone shows you nothin like our people so stop fakin cac bytch.
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Yes I'm serious I didn't make up shyt I hadn't been on this site since June 6 when I went on vacation just cause you a loser that stays on here arguin wit people all day doesn't mean I don't get out and get fresh air, you prolly just mad cause you thought you "won" by havin the last word when I was just off in another country chillin and never even saw your latest whiny post til now.Are you really serious? You come on here and make up a story about being on a long vacation, yet you're still typing lengthy responses to a post from weeks ago (and you're calling me out for engaging in said argument nonetheless).
The only one in denial about who they are in this thread is you. Individuals who think they are Pro Black just because they can talk tough behind a computer. It's equivalent to e-thuggin' except it's far worse because you're making a mockery of something very real.
What's funny is I never even made this about Eminem. My initial comments were questioning your reasoning behind Jay Z's motives for putting Eminem on "Renegade". In fact, your posts did more to propel Eminem to legendary status than mine did.
Log off and do something constructive, like you know, bettering yourself. You're not Pro Black. You hate yourself too much to even utter the term. You've borderline admitted as much by even typing that I'm using "overly technical wordplay".
For the record, I never got ethered in a thread for calling The Coli on it's BS.
Yes I'm serious I didn't make up shyt I hadn't been on this site since June 6 when I went on vacation just cause you a loser that stays on here arguin wit people all day doesn't mean I don't get out and get fresh air, you prolly just mad cause you thought you "won" by havin the last word when I was just off in another country chillin and never even saw your latest whiny post til now.You started this argument so of course I'm gonna call you out for cryin to me about this pointless bullshyt, you still in your feelins over what I said about Eminem back in May to another poster.:iversondisgusted:
You still pretendin you black when its clear as day you a cac so obviously you the one in denial about your real identity, the fact you fakin bein black shows you makin a mockery of the entire black race while puttin out false definitions of pro black which no one is buyin so give it up cac.
You rushed in to throw a fit about my assessment of Jay's reason for puttin Renegade on the album cause you were offended I said Jay didn't do it cause Em was some legend he did it to capitalize on his success, I've shat on Em in every post yet you claim I'm propellin him to legendary status and not you who is hypin him up as bein so loved by Hov that he just had to put him on his album for his supposed greatness alone.
Take your own advice fakkit log off and be the bytchmade white man you are instead of pretendin to be a black male who's pro black online:cacjordan:I've used the term pro black in every post wit you so you sound retarded sayin I hate myself too much to utter the termI was pointin out your cacish typin style by sayin you're usin "overly technical wordplay" which was another way of sayin you playin semantics in an attempt to win an argument.
Either everyone ignored you cause you a corny cac or you're flat out lyin (most likely the latter) cause if a clear cac started bytchin at black folks about the definition of pro black he'd get roasted on here especially if he's also insultin the site for bein pro black cause it doesn't fit his cac definition, I can tell at this point you're postin nonsense just to post cause you desperately want the last word like most fags I make mad on here.![]()
I mentioned my vacation cause I hadn't been on here in a month and the second I log on I see your alert rememberin how mad you still are over this bullshyt, it was an offhanded remark I made that you caught feelins over for some reason and had to cry about it for the last 2 posts.Again, more posturing. What relevance does your vacation have to the discussion? Seriously, someone who just came off vacation wouldn't be as in their feelings as you are over words on a screen especially weeks later. You're still typing walls of text. For what? To prove you're something that you're obviously not. Admit you hid because again, posters were talking about these walls of texts. You never left The Coli because your aliases are still posting.
Why would I fake being Black? See this is the type of delusion I'm talking about. You never had a legitimate response to begin with, so you started arguing with me because you couldn't substantiate why Jay Z would use "Renegade" to capitalize on Eminem's fan base vs. him just liking the song or artist. The craziest and most irrational part about it is that you're in here claiming that I'm a white, autistic, Eminem stan all because you lack the intelligence to back up what you were claiming. You only make yourself look bad. And yes, I took offense to you claiming you're Pro Black because it had absolutely nothing to do with anything. You're not out here advancing us a people. Nothing you've said in here even speaks to you taking pride in who you are. All you've done is hurl insults, and attempted to justify it by saying you're militant like Malcolm X and then claimed that this is a Pro Black site, which is why you responded why you responded. On top of it, you keep bringing up Black icons further proving that you aren't Pro Black and care nothing about Black people in general and just use it to further your agenda.
You did not use Pro Black in every response to my posts.
And let's talk about how corny you are. You're in here talking about cacish typing. What exactly is that? "Overly technical wordplay". Is that the best you can do to say you have issues with me actually knowing the meaning of words vs. just making up meanings to go along with whatever BS I'm spewing (this is you). Your posts read like Eminem lyrics to his early lead singles: no substance, gimmicky, loaded with insults and obscenities, cartoonish, and an overall parody.
I care nothing about the last word. Desperately itching to get the last word is someone supposedly coming off of vacation and rushing to post on a message board to a post that's a month old.
I mentioned my vacation cause I hadn't been on here in a month and the second I log on I see your alert rememberin how mad you still are over this bullshyt, it was an offhanded remark I made that you caught feelins over for some reason and had to cry about it for the last 2 posts.I told you from the beginnin that if someone quotes me tryna argue nonsense I'm always gonna respond you just tight that when I logged back on I responded to your now old post instead of allowin you to have that last word you so desperately want
I didn't hide from shyt you were the only one in here wit me dumbass wasn't no other posters talkin bout my posts the few that did talk about them did so weeks before I left and you've been makin walls of texts yourself so don't front like you don't care about this especially when you started this back and forth when I was never talkin to you so you had no legit reason to jump in bytchin at me.
The only one tryna prove he's somethin that he's not is you and you can't stand that I'm callin you out for bein a perpetratin cac, I have no aliases you idiot but its hilarious that while I was in the islands enjoyin life you were runnin round this forum the last month stalkin other posters thinkin they my alias:michaeljordanlaugh:which just shows how obsessed you are wit me and how furious you are about this whole argument.
Pale faced posters fake bein black all the time online and especially on here who knows why yall do it (usually its out of insecurity about bein white and havin a need to be down wit the brothas) but it definitely happens so claimin I'm delusional for pointin it out when you are a white boy in blackface that seems to really believe you black is the definition of irony cause you clearly delusional yourself maybe its caused by your obvious autism.I literally gave you several legit reasons why I said Jay put Em on Renegade to capitalize on his fame at the time pointin out he was at his biggest then and included other examples of him doin that which rappers/haters have criticized him for you just didn't like it and couldn't refute what I said so you deflected wit all this bullshyt about the definition of pro black and Malcolm X bein militant, you arguin that hard when your whole point was destroyed in like 2 posts let me know you were a Em stan in your feelins and the majority of them are cacs so I concluded you a cac too.
You catchin feelins over THAT too and tryna cry about how its not appropriate to bring up race in a discussion that's not important (yet it was important enough for you to argue about it for months when I was talkin to someone else) was another example of you deflectin and makin ramblin arguments in order to keep postin about this instead of lettin it go. And you got the audacity to say I'M the one fixated on this cause I responded after my vacation, you even tryna make up lies and conspiracy theories about me bein here the whole time in order to fit your weak narrative cause your assumption that I didn't go on vacation is paper thin wit no logic behind it.:stephenasmithsleep:
I've mentioned the words pro black in just about every post wit you cause you made that part of the argument, I've even mentioned those words in these last 2 posts which destroys your crazy argument that I'm too scared to say the words "pro black" or whatever the fukk you were tryna claim before. :ifukkedup:And I'm pretty sure you were the one who originally brought up MLK and X but me mentionin black icons would actually prove I am pro black if I hated the black race I would never mention the greatest black men to ever live so thats ANOTHER dumbass argument you're makin, you literally are just sayin random shyt that makes absolutely no sense in true autistic fashion which is why I say you arguin just to argue cause you want the last word and are hopin I read your dumb illogical ramblins give up and leave causin in your retard mind you to "win" by gettin the last word.:mmmhmmiseeyou:
Cacish typin is tellin a black man that bein pro black is simply about bein happy wit yourself and insultin whites or havin an aggressive attitude towards whites and callin them cacs is not pro black:cacjordan: "overly technical wordplay" (the meanin of which I already explained to your white ass in my last post) like you playin semantics by callin what X stood for "survival" and not bein "militant" when in the black community the only way to survive against cacs like you is by bein militant (if you were really black you'd know that already) so you actin like those words are different when they mean the same shyt in this case is the kind of arguin tactics cacs use when they have no real argument they'll just get similar words out the dictionary and claim its that instead of what you said.
If you cared nothin about the last word you wouldn't STILL be replyin to me wit new made up arguments like tryna have a debate on my vacation habits you would have stopped the second I explained to you what I meant about Jay capitalizin on Em and if not then definitely when I showed I wasn't some Em hater by givin him props, but you still butthurt I won't say what YOU want me to say that Jay put Em on cause he had such respect for himthats the root of the reason you keep whinin to me wit these bytchass posts. Your obsession wit my vacation must be jealousy that you stuck in whatever squalor you livin in gettin upset daily on the coli while I can log off and forget the site exists and leave the country
but just cause I go away doesn't mean when I come back I won't respond to whatever bullshyt some fakkit cac like you says while I'm gone especially when you quote me while sayin it.
All I did was respond when I finally saw it like I always do I didn't "rush" to post I was back for the last 2 weeks and just never came to the Coli cause unlike you I have a life outside this site and was doin other things but when I did check in I gave you that work
like I said before you just mad cause you thought you had the last word and I "let you win" but now that you realize I was just gone you gettin all emotional again and are lashin out cryin about my absence from here basically sayin "WAAHHHH!!! WHY DID YOU COME BACK AND REPLY?! YOU COULD'VE JUST LET ME HAVE THE LAST WORD IT WAS A MONTH OLD POST!!!!! WAAAHHHHH!!!!:triplehusad:" ol hoe ass cac.
Not sayin it worked but Jay stays gettin the latest popular artists on his albums.
Yeah which further shows Jay puttin it on his album was an attempt at gettin that fanbase to cop it, everyone always mentions how that song don't fit wit the rest of the album and thats the reason why.
Ladies and gentlemen, the above post is the prime example of a gimmick poster. When they take issue with your disagreeing with them, they go from this:
All of the angst in these walls of texts came stemmed from me disagreeing with something this poster posted.
To sum it all up, what we have here is a case of a gimmick poster who doesn't know how to properly articulate his points, so he resorts to insults. Then he hides behind being a fake militant and faking being Pro Black to try to save face.
The gimmick poster is you cac you rushed in to cape for your fellow white boy and have bytched at me for 2 months all because I made that short 2 line post you just quoted, YOU took issue wit me disgreein wit you I was talkin to someone else and you caught feelins and stepped in to whine about it.
Every post you made to me in here is filled wit angst yet once again you projectin your behavior onto me cause you desperately want whoever reads this to think you "won" after you so badly lostand I thoroughly broke down each of your bullshyt posts to show how dumb your arguments were thats why my posts were so long but since you can't refute what I've said or properly articulate YOUR points you resort to deflectin onto my post length tryna say I'M the one upset just cause my posts were longer than yours in your pathetic attempt to save face.
To sum it all up you got in your feelins over what I said about the white rapper passionately defended him and got upset when I wouldn't co-sign your stan worship of him so I pointed out you seem like a textbook Eminem stan and since most of his stans are white you prolly a cacyou became even more enraged over me hittin that nail on the head and decided to complain about me mentionin race and when I said your blackface was offensive to us blacks and pro blacks on here would roast your ass you threw another hissy fit about what it means to be pro black (as if you'd know:cacjordan: ) while tryna push a cac narrative of pro black equalin bein docile and non threatenin to your cac brethren. Once I pointed out that just further confirmed you a cac and took issue wit your fake ass bein on a pro black site you attempted to discredit the pro blackness of this site while also cryin about how we use the term cac claimin real pro blacks wouldn't say that
then you tried to say everyone from us to Malcolm fukkin X are not militant even tho our actions fit the true definition perfect.
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