ESPN 30 For 30: Celtics/Lakers: Best of Enemies 6/13-14

[Danie84]

Lowkey, ML Carr was the original Coli poster

...Zeke took all the heat for that Roidman stray

A 84 Baby recalls how my older brotha went HAM to Magic/Bird championhip showdowns, tho

 

[Derekjackson2]

What people didn't realize was Bird grew up playing with mostly black players so he really hated that white/black talk. What also is interesting is Bird attended Indiana to play for Bobby Knight before transferring. Imagine Magic & Bird rivalry in the big 10.

 

[NYK Loyalist]

I dont know how old you are
But remember when he first started doing the NBA on NBC i think it was?

Wed come into school with stupid Walton quotables be driving the teacher CRAZY!!
i think he was doing Kings games a few years ago too. Just all out fukkery!

I remember he was doing a Knicks game and he says something like "this is unacceptable Kurt Thomas has to do a better job on the boards" and Snapper said "Thomas isn't in the game Bill"

 

[BXKingPin82]

I remember he was doing a Knicks game and he says something like "this is unacceptable Kurt Thomas has to do a better job on the boards" and Snapper said "Thomas isn't in the game Bill"

 

[mastermind]

Up to Mid 90s yes....or at least neck and neck.....up to about 96ish.

it wasnt.

The Knicks and Cavs played garbage basketball.

So to did the Hawks, but not as bad.

There were a lot of one secondary star teams as well. Knicks fans will hate this, but the 90s NBA fell off when the Knicks became a title contender.

 

[mastermind]

this is why I hate the Banana Boat era, yall have no idea what it was like. Them games was the Best ever and we not just saying that cause we older. That competition to lay it all down on the line with your brehs was some of realist ish we've seen

we saw it in last year's playoffs.

Last year's postseason was one of the best ever.

 

[NYC Rebel]

More physical play led to the great rivalries we had back then, as opposed to the "banana boat" culture we have in the NBA today

That physical play only came out when those two teams played. It didn't represent the typical run of the mill 80s brand of ball.

 

[mastermind]

Speaking of the Bucks, Sidney Moncrief is one of the most underrated players of the 80s. They acting like the Bucks were garbage.

In the weeks leading up to the 1979 NBA Draft, the Lakers -- owners of the first pick -- were more torn than, in the ensuing decades, they've ever let on. There were two magnificent college players on their board; players with myriad skills, loaded resumes and franchise-changing potential. One was a high-flying 6-foot-4 guard out of the University of Arkansas named Sidney Moncrief. The other was a transformative 6-9 guard out of Michigan State named Earvin Johnson. People called him "Magic."

Moncrief was everything a pro team would want in a player. He was polished beyond polished; lightning-quick, a dead-eye shooter with a Walt Frazier-esque first step and an eagerness to play tenacious defense. The Los Angeles Times' Ted Green compared him -- rightly -- to David Thompson. "He was a terrific basketball player," says Paul Westhead, who would eventually coach the Lakers that season "You could watch Sidney Moncrief play and know he had a lot of tools."

And yet ... Johnson was the first of his kind -- a power forward-sized point guard who could dribble, pass and rebound with aplomb. Why, there was only one question about the kid -- though, admittedly, a big one: Could he shoot?

As the draft drew closer, Lakers general manager Jerry West debated Johnson-Moncrief with anyone within sight. Though he has been reticent to admit it, West leaned toward the gunner from Arkansas. The Lakers already had Norm Nixon, a top-shelf point guard who had just averaged 17.1 points and nine assists in his second NBA season. The idea of two stars playing the same position made little sense.

So, Moncrief it would be.

Jeff Pearlman: How one draft decision changed fortunes of two NBA franchises

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

Speaking of the Bucks, Sidney Moncrief is one of the most underrated players of the 80s. They acting like the Bucks were garbage.

That Bucks team is hella good in NBA 2k17. Straight up beat me 3 times when I played historic domination. Terry Cummings splashing post fadeaways on me like it's nothing.

I was holding the controller like

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Born in Detroit, lived till teenage years, then moved to Indiana later to live. Still in Indiana, Bird is revered by all here brehs. Even my dad still talks highly of him. Bird is that dude.

 

[Selfish]

Anyone got links for the whole thang?

 

[NYC Rebel]

That Bucks team is hella good in NBA 2k17. Straight up beat me 3 times when I played historic domination. Terry Cummings splashing post fadeaways on me like it's nothing.

I was holding the controller like

Their problem was that they were good enough to remain in the middle of the pack but could never get a draft pick good enough to take them over the top.

 

[pete clemenza]

I didn't know Riley was commentating before coaching.

Damn I never knew Pat Riley's origin story

Adds even more to his legend..Dude is like a boss in the movie Casino or Goodfellas just like Dion Waiters said lol

Weird how some of the best coaches come up out of nowhere, Riley was doing commentary and Spoelstra was just a dude cutting up film for Riley when he was in Miami

Pat Riley played for Kentucky and was All-SEC and he played for the Lakers and the Suns before doing play by play and coaching

 

[pete clemenza]

So back in the day when you got the #1 pick you just traded it to Boston or LA?

Basically


Also on another note. Why in the fukk did the Milwaukee Bucks trade Kareem/Lew Alcindor to the Lakers When did the owner, GM, and coach come to the conclusion that, "We don't him".

 

[TheEgyptianConniption]

Basically


Also on another note. Why in the fukk did the Milwaukee Bucks trade Kareem/Lew Alcindor to the Lakers When did the owner, GM, and coach come to the conclusion that, "We don't him".

Kareem demanded a trade. I remember him talking about it on the Jump I believe.