ESPN "30 for 30: The U Part 2" official thread

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But people forget about this.

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Face it, PI or Not, Ohio State wanted it more.
 

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:whoo: Jameis needs to come back for his junior year.

Jameis is incredible. I think the best QB in the country.

But the truth is....

If Jimbo was narrow minded and told Clint Trickett he was starting no matter what last year...

and then this was Jameis 1st year starting.

It would be hard to believe him going pro as a RS SO after the season he's had. All those turnovers arent his fault. There are a lot of problems elsewhere on the team.

I just worry if he's throwing 17 ints in college because the coaching/talent isnt up to par around him.

Whats he going to do on the Jets or Titans next year :lupe:

Hopefully he dominates the next two games so it wont matter :manny:
 

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And the 2001 team is not the greatest CF team of all time. They're probably the most talented, but other teams have "performed," better over the course of an actual season. NFL draft picks and shyt are cool to talk about, but give me the teams that played the best on the field. They are probably top 5, though.

Miami seems overly focused on stuff that has nothing to do with playing winning football. Swagger or stadiums don't win football games: talent and technical ability does. Miami wouldn't be better if Folden let them :mj: all over the field. They need to find a way to keep the super studs like Travis Rudolph, Joyner, Cook, et al, home and coaches that can coach and teach the technical aspect of the game as it is played in the 21st century. There's no reason someone as physically talented as Dorsett should have 31 measly catches on the year.
 

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And the 2001 team is not the greatest CF team of all time. They're probably the most talented, but other teams have "performed," better over the course of an actual season. NFL draft picks and shyt are cool to talk about, but give me the teams that played the best on the field. They are probably top 5, though.

Miami seems overly focused on stuff that has nothing to do with playing winning football. Swagger or stadiums don't win football games: talent and technical ability does. Miami wouldn't be better if Folden let them :mj: all over the field. They need to find a way to keep the super studs like Travis Rudolph, Joyner, Cook, et al, home and coaches that can coach and teach the technical aspect of the game as it is played in the 21st century. There's no reason someone as physically talented as Dorsett should have 31 measly catches on the year.

Man :camby:
 

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And the 2001 team is not the greatest CF team of all time. They're probably the most talented, but other teams have "performed," better over the course of an actual season. NFL draft picks and shyt are cool to talk about, but give me the teams that played the best on the field. They are probably top 5, though.

Miami seems overly focused on stuff that has nothing to do with playing winning football. Swagger or stadiums don't win football games: talent and technical ability does. Miami wouldn't be better if Folden let them :mj: all over the field. They need to find a way to keep the super studs like Travis Rudolph, Joyner, Cook, et al, home and coaches that can coach and teach the technical aspect of the game as it is played in the 21st century. There's no reason someone as physically talented as Dorsett should have 31 measly catches on the year.

no team in the modern era beat ranked opponents by a wider margin. they hung 59 and 65 on top 15 Syracuse and UDub teams. 33-7 on a good Penn State team. beat highly ranked FSU by 21

:russ: @ losing the Orange Bowl not mattering. if for logistical reasons only that was a huge deal
 

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Jameis is incredible. I think the best QB in the country.

But the truth is....

If Jimbo was narrow minded and told Clint Trickett he was starting no matter what last year...

and then this was Jameis 1st year starting.

It would be hard to believe him going pro as a RS SO after the season he's had. All those turnovers arent his fault. There are a lot of problems elsewhere on the team.

I just worry if he's throwing 17 ints in college because the coaching/talent isnt up to par around him.

Whats he going to do on the Jets or Titans next year :lupe:

Hopefully he dominates the next two games so it wont matter :manny:

A lot of those pics are option routes by the wr's
 

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I'd really and truly love to hear an argument that 2001 Miami is the GOAT college football team that isn't tied to NFL success or anecdotal.

Let's look at their schedule:

Nebraska 11-2 (#2 at kickoff)
Syracuse 10-3 (#14 at kickoff)
Boston College 8-4
Florida St 8-4 (#14 at kickoff)
Va Tech 8-4 (#14 at kickoff)
Washington 8-4 (#12 at kickoff)
Troy 7-4
Pitt 7-5
Penn St 5-6
Temple 4-7
WVU 3-8
Rutgers 2-9

They played one top 10 team which was NU and they'd just got their ass kicked by damn near 4 touchdowns via Colorado. They also went life and death with BC and were a dropped 2-point conversion by Ernest Wilford from OT against VT.

'95 Nebraska did this:

In the final rankings from the 1995 season, Nebraska beat four teams that finished in the final AP Top Ten rankings – national runner-up Florida (62-24), No. 5 Colorado (44-21), No. 7 Kansas State (49-25) and No. 9 Kansas (41-3).


Obviously, a team can only play who is on their schedule and within that context the era they played in. Is 2001 Miami a great team? Sure. Are they they unquestioned Goat or some shyt? Hell no. In fact, there are 3-4 teams that have performed at a higher level in the annals of football. This is empirical fact. You can reject this, embrace this, :camby: it, whatever. It doesn't alter the objective reality of it.
 

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95 NEB is a fair argument, they were dominant as hell

obviously the future pros changed the perception, but lets not act like the team didn't handle biz. that title game final score didn't indicate how bad Miami fukked NEB up, that game was over by half
 
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