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How many of you Lebron bashers are willing to put money on the Cavs since you think Kyrie being hurt doesn't matter?

I don't get you clowns
I'm not a LeBron basher in the slightest. But I have a journalism background and I find it abhorrent how the media picks and chooses when circumstances matter and when they don't concerning how they judge a player. It's a team game when a player they like is at a disadvantage, yet if that player wins the team aspect goes out of the window and said player is hailed as this incredible winner that did it all by themselves. Yet when a player that isn't in their favor loses because of inadequate support they're labeled losers independent of the fact that they had a shytty team surrounding them.
 

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I'm not a LeBron basher in the slightest. But I have a journalism background and I find it abhorrent how the media picks and chooses when circumstances matter and when they don't concerning how they judge a player. It's a team game when a player they like is at a disadvantage, yet if that player wins the team aspect goes out of the window and said player is hailed as this incredible winner that did it all by themselves. Yet when a player that isn't in their favor loses because of inadequate support they're labeled losers independent of the fact that they had a shytty team surrounding them.
I agree but the thing is that's never the case with Bron. It's always he played with ''HOFs and All Stars'' when he wins/loses. So in reality he never escapes criticism or blame...so in reality this whole thread is pointless.
 

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Lmao y'all talking out your ass now. Most of the Melo ''slander'' from the last week or so were jokes to begin with.

Was Bron joking when he said "Me a underdog?Never,I will never be a underdog:youngsabo:"....Were people joking when they talked about how much Bron had grown as a man,and as a leader since being in Miami? What about when they were mocking the competition Jordan faced in the finals:mjlol:? We've seen Lebron face better with worse and make it interesting before when he was in Cleveland.

This new Bron who is a mature leader,and unafraid has a chance to pull this off I would say...Steph Curry and other nikkas who have never been to a finals really are the boogey man now:francis:

I didn't think Cavs would win but lets not let Lebron off the hook before seeing how this shyt plays out and how other players step up:comeon:...What if the games continue to be close because other guys step up,is Lebron still off the hook?Doesnt sound like something we should be doing yet for a player who is constantly credited with making teammates better:whoa:
 

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Was Bron joking when he said "Me a underdog?Never,I will never be a underdog:youngsabo:"....Were people joking when they talked about how much Bron had grown as a man,and as a leader since being in Miami? What about when they were mocking the competition Jordan faced in the finals:mjlol:? We've seen Lebron face better with worse and make it interesting before when he was in Cleveland.

This new Bron who is a mature leader,and unafraid has a chance to pull this off I would say...Steph Curry and other nikkas who have never been to a finals really are the boogey man now:francis:

I didn't think Cavs would win but lets not let Lebron off the hook before seeing how this shyt plays out and how other players step up:comeon:...What if the games continue to be close because other guys step up,is Lebron still off the hook?Doesnt sound like something we should be doing yet for a player who is constantly credited with making teammates better:whoa:
What are you talking about? All I'm saying is Melo had nothing to do with how JR and Shump played in NY and most of the stuff on the Coli was jokes.

And I'm not writing anything off cause it's not over until someone wins 4 games. And making team mates better =/= team mates never having bad games. Making players better means you help get them better looks and make the game easier for them. It doesn't mean you're gonna make them shoot 100% from the floor and especially in the finals.
 

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I agree but the thing is that's never the case with Bron. It's always he played with ''HOFs and All Stars'' when he wins/loses. So in reality he never escapes criticism or blame...so in reality this whole thread is pointless.
That's a message board/Lebron hater narrative. Once Bron won his first title, the onus was set for the media to start the MJ comparisons. Wade, Bosh and shooters stopped being integral parts to winning basketball and became afterthoughts to Lebron's greatness. If the Cavs lose, he'll have lost twice the number of Finals than he's won. I ,personally, will not hold that against him. But if if the media decided to have some semblance of consistency they would label him a loser. Again, this is a statement about the media, not Bron.
 

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What are you talking about? All I'm saying is Melo had nothing to do with how JR and Shump played in NY and most of the stuff on the Coli was jokes.

And I'm not writing anything off cause it's not over until someone wins 4 games. And making team mates better =/= team mates never having bad games. Making players better means you help get them better looks and make the game easier for them. It doesn't mean you're gonna make them shoot 100% from the floor and especially in the finals.

For some people it was jokes,for Melo haters it was vindication,and for Lebron lovers it was a opportunity to put a feather in Brons cap and brag about how he makes players better where Melo couldn't.

Funny you take the comments in this thread so serious but the Melo one was all jokes:sas1:

To those who it don't apply they'll let it fly,for those that were serious they feel a knot in they chest with the truth I just hit em with:whoo:
 

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That's a message board/Lebron hater narrative. Once Bron won his first title, the onus was set for the media to start the MJ comparisons. Wade, Bosh and shooters stopped being integral parts to winning basketball and became afterthoughts to Lebron's greatness. If the Cavs lose, he'll have lost twice the number of Finals than he's won. I ,personally, will not hold that against him. But if if the media decided to have some semblance of consistency they would label him a loser. Again, this is a statement about the media, not Bron.
Just how it is. The media also makes it seems like MJ, Magic Bird even Tobe played 1 vs 15 and won. But how many times do you hear the media or the average fan mention the people they played with? Not often. How many times do you hear who's played with Bron. More often than not.
 

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For some people it was jokes,for Melo haters it was vindication,and for Lebron lovers it was a opportunity to put a feather in Brons cap and brag about how he makes players better where Melo couldn't.

Funny you take the comments in this thread so serious but the Melo one was all jokes:sas1:

To those who it don't apply they'll let it fly,for those that were serious they feel a knot in they chest with the truth I just hit em with:whoo:
No one cares about Melo that much for him to have haters. Of all the people on this site I guarantee you can count the people who legitimately hate him on one hand.

These aren't jokes. Its mostly haters pushing narratives along with repetitive trolling. I say its jokes with Melo cause outside of the Knicks season thread you barely see people talk about him. Have a nice day sir.
 

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I'm supposed to believe gassed up on themselves athlete talk now? They should effect how I see the outcome of a game? :dahell:

Lebron to Las Vegas: "I've never been an underdog!!"

Vegas & Common sense you are supposed to be equipped with: :childplease:

Can't even believe you're embracing that quality of posting you want me to respond to. shyt is empty as fukk

You're supposed to believe what you believe breh, not trying to change that. Also, I'm not "embracing" it, just trying to see your point of view on it. Anything wrong with that? That's what people do when trying to see the other side of the coin besides theirs.
 

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No it isn't.

Idiots opt out common sense. Racists opt out of common sense. a$$holes opt out of common sense. Clowns think "well...I'll put common sense aside and dikkride/hate the person in spite of what common sense dictates!"

Who does that?
The MAJORITY of the Coli, that's who. People up here decide to use common sense ONLY when it fits THEIR narrative.
 

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What's to deal with? You can feel the way you personally want to feel about any human being. But the willingness to embrace a "his fault" mentality no matter the situation is pure ass. I might as well now blame Magic for pulling his hamstring vs the Pistons when they got swept or not carrying that Waco as Lakers team far enough when they lost to the Bulls. "Likeability" or dislike of a player getting in the way of common sense isn't my steez. That's for lames and that's who I'm addressing. You're now saving them because honestly, as your posts in other threads shown, you embrace that mentality too. Don't run from it. If it's wack, I'll call it wack. Not only is it wack, I'll give rational reasons explaining why that mentality is trash.

I dont embrace it's his fault if it's NOT his fault, the star of the team gets the blame and the love, win or lose, and it shouldn't change with him. I swear you don't read to understand, you read to find invisible made up faults and then try to make that person feel a way they dont. You can't tell me how I feel breh, I tell YOU how I feel.
 
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