ESPN First Take: Cam can't lose a game if he wants to win MVP

[onelastdeath]

I agree. Panthers only play 2 teams all year with a winning record. Brady leads the league in yards and touchdowns, whilst having to carry what is probably the most injured team in the league. Brady doesn't win it because of voter fatigue.

They beat the Seahawks, and Packers, both who are playoff teams right now

 

[feelosofer]

Naw Cam has locked down the MVP spot. Everything the pundits said Cam needs to do he has done. I don't know what else he can do. He's going no worse than 14-2 and he could easily go 16-0 and he's doing a lot of that from the pocket.

 

[BLAZO da GAWD]

They beat the Seahawks, and Packers, both who are playoff teams right now

That's exactly what I said. Those are the only two teams they've played all year that have a winning record.

 

[BLAZO da GAWD]

Get beat by a garbage Philly team & expect an MVP brehs

Philly loss was luck. They didn't lose because of Brady. Did you watch the game?

 

[Bboystyle]

Brady has 2 more TD passes and 1000 more yds on 130 more attempts. It ain't like Brady is blowing him out the water. This ain't 2008. And Cam is a killer running threat and his team has a better record. But yeah those TDs (that will fukk around and be lapped up with the way Cam is playing lately) will be the difference .

he also has 4 less INT's in more attempts too. He also has a better completion % and QB rating. His over all numbers are better as a passer, not just TD's. There's no passing stat Cam is beating Brady in regardless if it's by a small or large margin. NFL will see that and unless he goes 16-0, he'll get screwed.


obviously if he surpasses Brady's numbers by week 17 then he'll win MVP.

 

[ArmchairCritic]

Umm have u seen them play?

GInn >>> Cobb

Cotchery >>> Jones

Funchess>>> Adams

i dont even have to mention how shytty our run game is compared to CAR.


are u serious right now breh?

Cotchery and Jones are much of a muchness, two veteran receivers, Cotchery's last good season was in 2009. Jones had a similar season in 2013 and he has good chemistry he has with Rodgers. Cobb had a 1300 yard season last year, Ginn's best season before this was 790 yards and yes he can get separation but he's renowned for not being able to catch! Funchess could well prove to be better than Adams but Adams has a year of experience and had what seemed to be a breakout game in the playoffs IIRC, Funchess has just started to show what he can do in the last few weeks. Newton makes the Carolina run game as effective as it is, as I Green Bay fan I understand you are harder on your own players but at the start of the season I'm taking your offensive corps over Cam's I don't have the advantage of watching them every week and I know your run game/offense as a whole has been bad and if you feel the Panthers offense is better I will respect that.

Losing Nelson has influenced your whole offense and made it harder for other guys to eat, the same should be true of Carolina without Benjamin. However week after week their offense has improved, the consistency of Newton and Olsen has been critical to that.

 

[WuDatWuDat]

I guess you missed the cam winning drive he had in Seattle

and the game winning drive he had in the shoot against drew brees

True. Seattle was 2-4 at the time and New Orleans sucks. And NY is 6-8. Carolina going to the last drive vs. these teams and Coli actually thinks they're going to win the SB lmfao.

 

[onelastdeath]

That's exactly what I said. Those are the only two teams they've played all year that have a winning record.

And the Patriots have beat 2 . Steelers. Jets. And lost to 1 under 500 (The Eagles) So whats your point breh

 

[Bboystyle]

Pretty sure its Most Valuable PLAYER, and not most Most Valuable Player While Playing Their Position In A Tradition Manner.

They count ALL PURPOSE yards when they factor in backs.

Its MVP not MVQB. 40 TD's is 40 TD's.

name a time when they considered a QB's rushing numbers to decide the MVP. and yes it is called MVQB since 99% of the time a QB wins it.

 

[Bboystyle]

Naw Cam has locked down the MVP spot. Everything the pundits said Cam needs to do he has done. I don't know what else he can do. He's going no worse than 14-2 and he could easily go 16-0 and he's doing a lot of that from the pocket.

i hope your right breh he deserves it. But if brady decides to go the past two games, he might get fukked

 

[onelastdeath]

name a time when they considered a QB's rushing numbers to decide the MVP. and yes it is called MVQB since 99% of the time a QB wins it.

Name a time we've had an MVP candidate who was also tied for third place leaguewide for Rushing TDs,

You gotta take into consideration his complete body of work, not just his Passing Game.

 

[Brozay]

Cam is a virtual lock for MVP, why do y'all even care what First Take says?

 

[ArmchairCritic]

True. Seattle was 2-4 at the time and New Orleans sucks. And NY is 6-8. Carolina going to the last drive vs. these teams and Coli actually thinks they're going to win the SB lmfao.

That's on the defence not Cam tho'.

 

[FTBS]

he also has 4 less INT's in more attempts too. He also has a better completion % and QB rating. His over all numbers are better as a passer, not just TD's. There's no passing stat Cam is beating Brady in regardless if it's by a small or large margin. NFL will see that and unless he goes 16-0, he'll get screwed.

I am talking who is more deserving in my opinion based on facts and logic, not taking the copout of "that's just he way it is". Even from that perspective there is precedent for the QB that doesn't have the best passing numbers winning the MVP, especially when it's that close.

 

[Bboystyle]

Cotchery and Jones are much of a muchness, two veteran receivers, Cotchery's last good season was in 2009. Jones had a similar season in 2013 and he has good chemistry he has with Rodgers. Cobb had a 1300 yard season last year, Ginn's best season before this was 790 yards and yes he can get separation but he's renowned for not being able to catch! Funchess could well prove to be better than Adams but Adams has a year of experience and had what seemed to be a breakout game in the playoffs IIRC, Funchess has just started to show what he can do in the last few weeks. Newton makes the Carolina run game as effective as it is, as I Green Bay fan I understand you are harder on your own players but at the start of the season I'm taking your offensive corps over Cam's I don't have the advantage of watching them every week and I know your run game/offense as a whole has been bad and if you feel the Panthers offense is better I will respect that.

Losing Nelson has influenced your whole offense and made it harder for other guys to eat, the same should be true of Carolina without Benjamin. However week after week their offense has improved, the consistency of Newton and Olsen has been critical to that.

Its evident that Cobb is a strictly slot WR and ate off of Nelson last year. James Jones was released by two teams before coming back to GB and had a few hot games and went back to being another body that cant do crap. Veteran or not, he's been trash most the year. When u have defensive coaches of other teams coming out and saying "packers WR's are bad, we can play man coverage and base defense most the game because they are slow and cant get separation" then u know u have it bad. On top of that, Rodgers has had an off year.