ESPN Insider: Teddy Godwater > Derek Carr >> Blake Bortles

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yea, it would be hard if you just went by the numbers, that's why i said they dont tell the story...

the reason i disagree is cause while true he hasnt went out there, aired it out, and won games, he has done enough in games to help them win....ap and the d aint doing everything on their own....

I feel you. Who knows..maybe Teddy picks up after that Arizona game and balls out the rest of the season/into the playoffs.
 

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Nah man Bortles and Carr are clearly better. The garbage time stats argument doesnt work cause they've played in alot of close games.

close games?...lol what?...you know why the jags have played in close games? cause the other team was winning by a lot, then relaxed and they came back...which means garbage stats for bortles....it's the same shyt andrew luck does, that's why i drafted both in fantasy.....anyway, for carr, yea, they have played in close games, but like i said: it's a different situation...he plays on a team that airs it out where as teddy doesnt....if carr or bortles played in minny, the game plan would still be the same as it is for teddy: make a play here and there, but let ap and the d do most the heavy lifting....
 

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I feel you. Who knows..maybe Teddy picks up after that Arizona game and balls out the rest of the season/into the playoffs.

i doubt it, at least for this season...it's too late in the season to switch up now, they gonna stick with running the ball and playing d......i dont think they find that balance until next year....
 

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lol...i wasnt taking a shot at the raiders man....did you not see the 'and/or'?....

I don't think the Jags have had much garbage time either :manny:, but I may be wrong

Either way Carr and Bortles can make every throw in the book and have cannon arms. I don't understand how Teddy does anything better. He's not even better at protecting the ball
 

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Oh and I must say my projections of Carr being a young Farve, and Teddy being a black Chad Pennington are looking pretty good right now. :jawalrus:


Although I may be disrespecting Chad a bit :patrice:
 

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As a Bills fan the man is fukkin useless, I don't care what the coach or anyone else thinks and I'm positive he won't last here.
 

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I don't think the Jags have had much garbage time either :manny:, but I may be wrong

Either way Carr and Bortles can make every throw in the book and have cannon arms. I don't understand how Teddy does anything better. He's not even better at protecting the ball

the jags have a lot of garbage time....they tend to get down a lot in games, which means airing it out for most the game....

the same you said for them can be said for teddy...his arm isnt as strong (meaning he cant throw as hard as them), but he can make all the throws, just like them....

i put it like this: to me, he was better coming out of college, and they havent done anything to show they surpassed him now...they all have pretty much shown the same that has kept them in the same order for the most part to me (i have switched carr and bortles)....that's not shytting on them, just saying i'd take teddy first if i had to pick from them....
 

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the jags have a lot of garbage time....they tend to get down a lot in games, which means airing it out for most the game....

the same you said for them can be said for teddy...his arm isnt as strong (meaning he cant throw as hard as them), but he can make all the throws, just like them....

i put it like this: to me, he was better coming out of college, and they havent done anything to show they surpassed him now...they all have pretty much shown the same that has kept them in the same order for the most part to me (i have switched carr and bortles)....that's not shytting on them, just saying i'd take teddy first if i had to pick from them....
:skip:....... :usure:......:camby:
 
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He reminds me a lot of Chad Pennington.

1) Both Smart
2) Both accurate as hell
3) both have great poise in the pocket
4) Both kills you in the short game
5) But both struggle badly with throws over 35-40 yards

:yeshrug:
 

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You know who Teddy remind me of, a black Chad Pennington. Especially with that deep ball :scusthov:


He reminds me a lot of Chad Pennington.

1) Both Smart
2) Both accurate as hell
3) both have great poise in the pocket
4) Both kills you in the short game
5) But both struggle badly with throws over 35-40 yards

:yeshrug:

From before the season :myman:
 

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He reminds me a lot of Chad Pennington.

1) Both Smart
2) Both accurate as hell
3) both have great poise in the pocket
4) Both kills you in the short game
5) But both struggle badly with throws over 35-40 yards

:yeshrug:

lol what?....most people struggle with #5....hell, farve, the poster boy for throwing deep, struggled with that......know why? cause most qbs arent throwing 35-40 yard plays regularly......i swear madden/video games have fukked up yall perception....
 

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so you dont think he can make all the throws? and what have they done to show they've surpassed him?....
i can't speak on bortkls, but carr, what hasn't he surpassed him in? have you even seen carr play this year? fukk no he can't make the throws carr be making.
 
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