ESPN's 2015 NFL QB Tier Rankings

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Big Ben is top tier????
Yes

Last season:

Tied Brees for 1st with most passing yds(4,952) and ypg(309.5)
3rd in QB completions
Higher completion % than Rodgers/P.Manning/Rivers/Brady
Avg 8.1 yds per throw. Only Romo and Rodgers were higher among those in that top 1 and 2 tier
7th in Td's(32) and only threw 9 ints
Tied with Rodgers and Luck for most 40+ yds completions(15)
5th best QB rating(103.3)Once again only Romo(113.2) and Rodgers(112.2) were higher in that top 1 and 2 tier

He belongs:yeshrug:
 

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Peyton is done. Why is he still in the top 5 quaterback discussion his arm is shot. Take Manning out and I have no issue with this list. I would rather have Rivers over luck but this personal preference

He still threw 39 TDs and for 4700 yards. He's not winning a title but he'll put up some gaudy numbers again this year
 

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:smugfavre:Stafford tied with 2 time Super Bowl champ Eli. In tier 2 like I told y'all.
 

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Tier 4.
25. Mariota.
26. Jameis
27. Bortles
28. RG3
29. Josh McCown
30. Hoyer
31. Matt Cassel
32. Geno

25. Marcus Mariota | Tennessee Titans
Average rating: 3.54 | Change in rating: N/A

2014 Rank: N/A


Voters typically place rookies into the fourth tier by default unless they're particularly excited about one. Mariota drew five votes in the second tier and eight in the third.

"What don't you like about him?" a defensive coordinator asked. "He is athletic, smart, he studies, he's a leader, a good kid."

An offensive coordinator who studied Mariota said he's confident the former Oregon star can process quickly, which is critical for development.

"He will be a little bit of a manager, not make too many mistakes," a personnel director predicted. "I think he is a 3 who can project to a 2, but he is going to a situation where they do not have a lot of talent around him."

Another director said he would have taken Mariota over Jameis Winston in part because he thinks Mariota will not create distractions.

"Does Mariota have some little flaws in his game? Absolutely," this director said. "Accuracy could be a little bit of an issue. But he will work his butt off, he is smart, really good athlete, has speed, and he will work at everything. There are lots of similarities with Alex Smith. There is too much going on with Winston. We are not living in the '70s anymore where the QB can get away with that s---."


26. Jameis Winston | Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Average rating: 3.77 | Change in rating: N/A

2014 Rank: N/A

Winston matched Mariota with 20 votes in the fourth tier, but he got only one in the second tier. Four voters put him in the fifth, and one of those, an offensive coordinator, was betting Winston would be a bust.

"He threw so many bad interceptions in college where everybody is wide open," this coordinator said. "That is not scientific. He was just so inconsistent in college, turned it over all the time and was on the best team in college. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. That is my gut feeling. Not that I think Mariota is the cat's meow, but he will be accurate, precise, efficient. The other guy is gunslinger plus bad decision-making, and that equals bad."

A head coach said he thought Winston would get the turnover problems under control.

"I bet you he throws 15-20 picks this year," a personnel director said. "He is very talented, very smart and he sees it. Has to work at it and protect the football. They will help him. Whether they can protect him or not, I do not know. They will do everything they can by running the ball and scheming."


27. Blake Bortles | Jacksonville Jaguars

Average rating: 3.83 | Change in rating: N/A

2014 Rank: N/A

Bortles played sooner than anticipated and got very little support, making it tougher to evaluate him fairly. Voters were not particularly critical of Bortles, but that doesn't mean they were optimistic, either.

"I'm not feeling it," one offensive coach said, offering faint praise by calling Bortles an "ascending 4."

Bortles ranked 28th in completion rate last season (58.9 percent), despite completing 65 screens in 73 attempts. Only Cutler attempted more screen passes last season.

"I did not like how he threw the ball. He looked lost," an opposing head coach said.

A personnel director was among several voters who said they questioned Bortles' accuracy coming out of college.

"For the beating he was taking, he was pretty poised about it," this director said. "It will be interesting to see how the new coordinator helps him. I do not think they helped him at all last year. One of the hardest things when you take a quarterback is getting your staff, especially your playcaller and head coach, to determine how they're going to make him successful and then sticking to it."


28. Robert Griffin III | Washington Redskins
Average rating: 3.91 | Change in rating: -30.5%

2014 Rank: T-19

One head coach wound up being the easiest grader overall -- and it wasn't even close -- placing 30 of the 32 quarterbacks in the top two tiers. The lone exceptions? Matt Cassel (Tier 3) and Griffin (Tier 4), which pretty much sums up where people around the league see Griffin at this stage of his career.

"Five, and there's no coming back," one offensive coach said. "He is done. The reason is, the injury slowed his legs, and his ego will not allow him to hit rock bottom and actually grind his way back up the right way."

Multiple voters hit on that theme.

"To get better in this league, you have to have a degree of humility," a personnel director said. "Griffin sees himself like Peyton, in that light. When he looks in the mirror, he is seeing things that everybody else is not seeing. That is why I was surprised when they gave him the fifth-year [option] and said it was an easy decision."

Griffin did receive a lone second-tier vote from a GM who took a longer-range view.

"I know how hard it is for a quarterback to go into a system for the first time," he said. "I go back to Brett Favre. He was a 1, but he goes to the Jets and he was probably a 2 or a 3. Then he went to a familiar system in Minnesota and was a 1 again. With Griffin, I'm taking into account the new offense, the new personality at head coach, coming off an injury. He showed his rookie year that he could be a 1. He is a young guy. I'm going to give him the benefit because of that."
wow so geno is the worst qb in the league ? :francis:
 
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