ESPN's 2015 NFL QB Tier Rankings

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I agree with most of the rankings, however these are my concerns:

1. Bridgewater can be a high 2 just like Rivers or a high 1 if his physical concerns sort themselves out. His pocket presence, anticipation and accuracy are all generally better than the likes of Carr, Foles and possibly even Dalton. His deep accuracy has shown noticeable improvement too. I agree he's a 3 right now but higher than Carr, Foles, Cuter and Bradford right now too. He's a high 3 with potential to be a high 2 to high 1. He put up high 3 and 2 numbers late in the season.

2. Mariota is ranked right about he should be, except he should be ranked below Jameis. Too many evals gave Jameis low marks for off-the-field fukkery. Mariota will manage games but Jameis will win them. Jameis should be ranked higher than Mariota at the onset.

3. Although I agree that Griffin is a 4, he should be higher than Blake Bortles. Bortles sucks at near everything, and hasn't shown what Griffin has. Though Griffin has pocket presence, field vision and defense reading issues, he's still better than Bortles. He's also in a new system and still learning the NFL game. Griffin's ceiling is a high 1. Is it unlikely? Yes. But that is nevertheless is ceiling and he has played to that level in the past, which can't be said about Blake Bortles.

4. Geno is probably ranked fairly when you consider how poor his performance has been, but he's had to weather problems a lot of other QBs haven't. Like some evals said, Geno's offensive coordinator Marty changed things up too much in an effort to scheme around a very poor receiving core. Geno suffered as a result. Additionally:

"Geno is a 5, and that is it," another coach said. "He cannot process fast enough. He is not a natural guy, sliding in the pocket and knowing when to run it. He has some legs to run, but no, he is trying to prove he is a pocket passer. Let's do something at the position before we start limiting ourselves for image."

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Geno pocket presence was very good after his benching. He has quick feet and is as fluid as a deer when he decides to use them. He also ran more last year, though I agree that Geno needs to put aside his ego and just focus on getting downs. Given Geno's strengths and pocket improvements, this coach seems a little biased, ignorant and judgmental.


"A personnel director said he thought Smith was erratic in his public comments and in his play.

"You don't have to be like everyone else," this director said, "but he does not strike me with his actions or thought process as a starting quarterback."

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Andrew Luck is my favorite player, but Tony Romo is the 2nd best qb in football. And I hate that fekket. Brady is 3rd. Ben is 4. Then I'll put Luck @ 5.

Your the only poster that can consistently surprise me with your awfulness. Jesus christ breh :scust:
 

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Stafford is also a high 3 like Dalton or a low 2. These evals put too much emphasis on arm strength. How many years has Stafford been in the NFL now? Answer: too many. He is a 3 or low 2 until he actually goes somewhere with all those weapons.
 

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Matty Ice is ranked right where he should be. If he was in Detroit instead Stafford, he could have won a Superbowl last season.
 

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A few things:

Why is Romo constantly underrated?
Why is Russell Wilson constantly overrated? He's easily in that 11-14 range.

Tannehill below Alex Smith and Carson Palmer? gtfoh
"He does not have any signature wins yet," an offensive coordinator said. "Who has Tannehill beat toward the end of the year?"- Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger in weeks 14 and 15 of 2013 with a stat line of 512 yards 6 TD's and 1 INT. Chargers in week 9 of the 2014 season? Almost beat Manning in week 12 before the defense collapsed, and put the team on his back since no one wanted to play and almost put up 400 yards with 4 TD's in a win against the Vikings in week 16.

Romo is a top 5 QB and I don't give a fukk. I been saying so for some time now. Took a LOT of heat for it too.

These lists are complete garbage. Eli, Russ, Flacco Stafford way too high. How the fukk is Russ ahead of Romo? Carson Palmer though? Alex Smith? :mjlol:
 

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I agree with most of the rankings, however these are my concerns:

1. Bridgewater can be a high 2 just like Rivers or a high 1 if his physical concerns sort themselves out. His pocket presence, anticipation and accuracy are all generally better than the likes of Carr, Foles and possibly even Dalton. His deep accuracy has shown noticeable improvement too. I agree he's a 3 right now but higher than Carr, Foles, Cuter and Bradford right now too. He's a high 3 with potential to be a high 2 to high 1. He put up high 3 and 2 numbers late in the season.

2. Mariota is ranked right about he should be, except he should be ranked below Jameis. Too many evals gave Jameis low marks for off-the-field fukkery. Mariota will manage games but Jameis will win them. Jameis should be ranked higher than Mariota at the onset.

3. Although I agree that Griffin is a 4, he should be higher than Blake Bortles. Bortles sucks at near everything, and hasn't shown what Griffin has. Though Griffin has pocket presence, field vision and defense reading issues, he's still better than Bortles. He's also in a new system and still learning the NFL game. Griffin's ceiling is a high 1. Is it unlikely? Yes. But that is nevertheless is ceiling and he has played to that level in the past, which can't be said about Blake Bortles.

4. Geno is probably ranked fairly when you consider how poor his performance has been, but he's had to weather problems a lot of other QBs haven't. Like some evals said, Geno's offensive coordinator Marty changed things up too much in an effort to scheme around a very poor receiving core. Geno suffered as a result. Additionally:

"Geno is a 5, and that is it," another coach said. "He cannot process fast enough. He is not a natural guy, sliding in the pocket and knowing when to run it. He has some legs to run, but no, he is trying to prove he is a pocket passer. Let's do something at the position before we start limiting ourselves for image."

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Geno pocket presence was very good after his benching. He has quick feet and is as fluid as a deer when he decides to use them. He also ran more last year, though I agree that Geno needs to put aside his ego and just focus on getting downs. Given Geno's strengths and pocket improvements, this coach seems a little biased, ignorant and judgmental.


"A personnel director said he thought Smith was erratic in his public comments and in his play.

"You don't have to be like everyone else," this director said, "but he does not strike me with his actions or thought process as a starting quarterback."

^

'cism :mjpls:
stop trying to make Geno Smith happen, breh
 

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A few things:

Why is Romo constantly underrated?
Why is Russell Wilson constantly overrated? He's easily in that 11-14 range.

Tannehill below Alex Smith and Carson Palmer? gtfoh
"He does not have any signature wins yet," an offensive coordinator said. "Who has Tannehill beat toward the end of the year?"- Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger in weeks 14 and 15 of 2013 with a stat line of 512 yards 6 TD's and 1 INT. Chargers in week 9 of the 2014 season? Almost beat Manning in week 12 before the defense collapsed, and put the team on his back since no one wanted to play and almost put up 400 yards with 4 TD's in a win against the Vikings in week 16.
Russ is easily a top 10/qb
 
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