Ethiopian Airlines crashes on way to Kenya

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The MCAS problem should've been found and corrected during testing. How did the retired pilot knew how to disable it but not the ones who were flying? and why did the airline send it out after previous pilots had the same problem on the same damn plane?
The families should sue both the airline and boeing.

the shyt is like cars, let someone else buy it new and work out the kinks then buy it used.
 

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More likely to die in a car accident than flying

For every 3 million flights last year there was one plane crash

In 2017 no one died in a plane crash
Are you more likely to DIE in a car crash, or are you more likely to be INVOLVED IN a car crash?

Because there are a lot of car accidents that don't result in death, but plane crashes have an almost 100% mortality rate
 

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Why does these brand new 737 planes keep crashing
Engineering shortcuts

During the design process in order to maximize profit they probably cheated out somewhere and calculated the amount of money they'd lose with people dying compared to if they made the planes more expensive
They chose the money
 

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didn't some comedian make a joke about the Black Box always surviving plane crashes...and why won't they make the plane out of the same material the black box is made of.....:patrice:
Black boxes are made of straight steel. Planes are made of aluminum and plastics. If a plane was made of straight steel, it'd most likely be too heavy to fly. If it could fly, the force of a crash would kill everyone on board anyway.
 

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never fly on a new model of planes. You dont want to be part of a crash that helps them work the kinks out.

Yep.

I used to be crazy afraid of planes so I researched a bunch of different plane crashes and have come up with a set of rules:

1. Always try to fly US-based airlines / airlines with American pilots - a lot of crashes are created by pilots freaking out under pressure when something stops feeling right; for better or worse American pilots have been flying combat missions and in combat zones, so a lot of them are just better under pressure (shouts out to Captain Sullenberger) AND the FAA is a lot better at figuring out the kinks in planes and giving pilots the heads up so they don't do stupid shyt

2. Avoid flying from a party / debaucherous city on an early AM flight - Pilots and airline staff like to get fukked up too. Read what happened with the Air France flight flying from Rio - perfectly good plane crashed into the sea because 2 pilots freaked the fukk out and the most senior pilot was in the back sleeping a hangover off after a night of partying until it was too late

3. Never fly an early AM or late flight when possible, especially if it's really cold or there's been a temperature drop - pilots are humans too and early morning fatigue is a thing; hella planes crash because ice forms up unexpectedly on surfaces and they didn't treat the planes enough before takeoff. Often times this happens early AM or in the evening when the temperature's dropped / there haven't been flights to communicate "fukk...this shyt's icy"

4. When at all possible, don't fly regional airlines when flying internationally - I consistently come out of pocket about $50-$75 more to hop on a Lufthansa or British Airways flight instead of some random regional airline; the regional airlines don't have the same standards of training for pilots and all manners of cultural considerations can lead to ridiculous fukkery (like the Asian airliner that crashed a few years ago because the Asian co-pilot didn't feel comfortable telling the more senior pilot he was fukking up because of the cultural awkwardness of doing so)

5. Avoid flying on newly released airplanes - sometimes it's not even the fact that a new airplane has a problem per se, but it's that flying on a new airplane means the flight is just that less routine to your pilot and crew...no matter how many hours you have in a simulator, if shyt starts to feel weird in the air, it's a different ball game

6. Avoid flying between bumblefukk cities - pilots on these routes are the B or C team or have less hours of flight time; stupid amount of fukkery related crashes on these kinds of routes; this is also obviously the case when traveling abroad - i'm flying to the capital city / financial center and driving from there even if it costs more; not worth the risk to me
 

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Are you more likely to DIE in a car crash, or are you more likely to be INVOLVED IN a car crash?

Because there are a lot of car accidents that don't result in death, but plane crashes have an almost 100% mortality rate

that's what ppl dont understand when they talk about flying planes is safer. Yes you are far less likely to be in a plane crash, but you are nearly guaranteed to die in a plane crash. Most car accidents arent fatal.
 

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Yep.

I used to be crazy afraid of planes so I researched a bunch of different plane crashes and have come up with a set of rules:

1. Always try to fly US-based airlines / airlines with American pilots - a lot of crashes are created by pilots freaking out under pressure when something stops feeling right; for better or worse American pilots have been flying combat missions and in combat zones, so a lot of them are just better under pressure (shouts out to Captain Sullenberger) AND the FAA is a lot better at figuring out the kinks in planes and giving pilots the heads up so they don't do stupid shyt

2. Avoid flying from a party / debaucherous city on an early AM flight - Pilots and airline staff like to get fukked up too. Read what happened with the Air France flight flying from Rio - perfectly good plane crashed into the sea because 2 pilots freaked the fukk out and the most senior pilot was in the back sleeping a hangover off after a night of partying until it was too late

3. Never fly an early AM or late flight when possible, especially if it's really cold or there's been a temperature drop - pilots are humans too and early morning fatigue is a thing; hella planes crash because ice forms up unexpectedly on surfaces and they didn't treat the planes enough before takeoff. Often times this happens early AM or in the evening when the temperature's dropped / there haven't been flights to communicate "fukk...this shyt's icy"

4. When at all possible, don't fly regional airlines when flying internationally - I consistently come out of pocket about $50-$75 more to hop on a Lufthansa or British Airways flight instead of some random regional airline; the regional airlines don't have the same standards of training for pilots and all manners of cultural considerations can lead to ridiculous fukkery (like the Asian airliner that crashed a few years ago because the Asian co-pilot didn't feel comfortable telling the more senior pilot he was fukking up because of the cultural awkwardness of doing so)

5. Avoid flying on newly released airplanes - sometimes it's not even the fact that a new airplane has a problem per se, but it's that flying on a new airplane means the flight is just that less routine to your pilot and crew...no matter how many hours you have in a simulator, if shyt starts to feel weird in the air, it's a different ball game

6. Avoid flying between bumblefukk cities - pilots on these routes are the B or C team or have less hours of flight time; stupid amount of fukkery related crashes on these kinds of routes; this is also obviously the case when traveling abroad - i'm flying to the capital city / financial center and driving from there even if it costs more; not worth the risk to me
:wow::wow::wow: flying out of Cambodia to Thailand makes for a good story.....but at the time I was :sadcam::sadcam::sadcam:

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2. Avoid flying from a party / debaucherous city on an early AM flight - Pilots and airline staff like to get fukked up too. Read what happened with the Air France flight flying from Rio - perfectly good plane crashed into the sea because 2 pilots freaked the fukk out and the most senior pilot was in the back sleeping a hangover off after a night of partying until it was too late
This is a gross exaggeration of what happened to AF447. It was still a massive fukk-up, but the captain wasn't sleeping off a hangover, but he should have taken over the controls when entered the cockpit.
 

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Just read it on Twitter.

Apparently this is the and Boeing 737 to crash in 5 or so months. The plane that crashed was sent to Ethiopian airlines just a few months ago as well


And I was just on a 737 max a few days ago. shyt didnt even feel that safe upon landing. Pilot suddenly took a dive before descending and I felt that force.
2?
Man i was on one just 2 weeks ago and will do so again this week.

The landings never feel safe.
 

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This is a gross exaggeration of what happened to AF447. It was still a massive fukk-up, but the captain wasn't sleeping off a hangover, but he should have taken over the controls when entered the cockpit.


Three Years After Air France 447 Crash, A Hint of Scandal - The Atlantic

Breh was most likely smashing one of the crew and is on the voice recorder saying he got less than an hour of sleep that night. If he's up and / or enters the cockpit earlier with more rest, maybe the 30-something year old pilots don't fly a perfectly good plane into the Atlantic.

Yeah, maybe it wasn't definitively a hangover, but what else causes you to show up to work after less than an hour of sleep? :usure:

Maybe it was his crew member's guts, but homey wasn't well rested and nearly 230 people lost their lives in something that was pure fukkery. I honestly can't think of a worse / more terrifying crash outside of maybe that Eurowings where the pilot just decide everyone was gonna go with him.
 
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