Ethiopian Airlines crashes on way to Kenya

[Soundbwoy]

My condolences

One of the saddest things is that There were a lot of good people on that plane who were working and helping Africa become better and now they are gone

Imagine having to go to the funeral in the same model that just crashed

 

[froggle]

He was supposed to board the flight ET 302 from Addis Ababa on Sunday. However, he reached the departure gate two minutes late, when the boarding time was already over.

After he missed his flight, the airport crew put him on another flight.

In the post, Mavropoulos admitted that he protested at the time, but was calmed down by the police personnel.

He was shocked when the police informed him about the crash which took place just six minutes after take-off.

"The officer told me not to protest but to pray to God because I was the only passenger who didn't board the ET 302 flight that was lost," Mavropoulos said in his Facebook post.


My lucky day: 2 minutes late, Greek man escapes death in Ethiopian plane crash

Those two brehs probably Cause if it was me, I would probably breakdown and have a reallllllllll look at my life.

 

[L@CaT]

He was supposed to board the flight ET 302 from Addis Ababa on Sunday. However, he reached the departure gate two minutes late, when the boarding time was already over.

After he missed his flight, the airport crew put him on another flight.

In the post, Mavropoulos admitted that he protested at the time, but was calmed down by the police personnel.

He was shocked when the police informed him about the crash which took place just six minutes after take-off.

"The officer told me not to protest but to pray to God because I was the only passenger who didn't board the ET 302 flight that was lost," Mavropoulos said in his Facebook post.


My lucky day: 2 minutes late, Greek man escapes death in Ethiopian plane crash

Those two brehs probably Cause if it was me, I would probably breakdown and have a reallllllllll look at my life.

We are all destined to die. It’s already written and set stone how we’re going to die. It wasn’t his time yet.

 

[richaveli83]

RIP to the victims.

 

[RealAssanova]

Yep.

I used to be crazy afraid of planes so I researched a bunch of different plane crashes and have come up with a set of rules:

1. Always try to fly US-based airlines / airlines with American pilots - a lot of crashes are created by pilots freaking out under pressure when something stops feeling right; for better or worse American pilots have been flying combat missions and in combat zones, so a lot of them are just better under pressure (shouts out to Captain Sullenberger) AND the FAA is a lot better at figuring out the kinks in planes and giving pilots the heads up so they don't do stupid shyt

2. Avoid flying from a party / debaucherous city on an early AM flight - Pilots and airline staff like to get fukked up too. Read what happened with the Air France flight flying from Rio - perfectly good plane crashed into the sea because 2 pilots freaked the fukk out and the most senior pilot was in the back sleeping a hangover off after a night of partying until it was too late

3. Never fly an early AM or late flight when possible, especially if it's really cold or there's been a temperature drop - pilots are humans too and early morning fatigue is a thing; hella planes crash because ice forms up unexpectedly on surfaces and they didn't treat the planes enough before takeoff. Often times this happens early AM or in the evening when the temperature's dropped / there haven't been flights to communicate "fukk...this shyt's icy"

4. When at all possible, don't fly regional airlines when flying internationally - I consistently come out of pocket about $50-$75 more to hop on a Lufthansa or British Airways flight instead of some random regional airline; the regional airlines don't have the same standards of training for pilots and all manners of cultural considerations can lead to ridiculous fukkery (like the Asian airliner that crashed a few years ago because the Asian co-pilot didn't feel comfortable telling the more senior pilot he was fukking up because of the cultural awkwardness of doing so)

5. Avoid flying on newly released airplanes - sometimes it's not even the fact that a new airplane has a problem per se, but it's that flying on a new airplane means the flight is just that less routine to your pilot and crew...no matter how many hours you have in a simulator, if shyt starts to feel weird in the air, it's a different ball game

6. Avoid flying between bumblefukk cities - pilots on these routes are the B or C team or have less hours of flight time; stupid amount of fukkery related crashes on these kinds of routes; this is also obviously the case when traveling abroad - i'm flying to the capital city / financial center and driving from there even if it costs more; not worth the risk to me

1. To say something like that is absolutely absurd. There are well over 5000 ICAO registered airlines all over the world. The U.S. has 3 main global carriers in United, Delta and American. Southwest & Jetblue don't fly across overseas. 3/5000 = 0.0006%. The math is self-explanatory. That and not every U.S. carrier flies to everywhere in the world. There are also many impeccable airlines all over the world. (ie. Qantas, Lufthansa, Cathay)

2. There are many morning flights that depart north america for europe and vice versa (7am, 8am, 9am). Middle eastern carriers such as emirates have a huge overnight departure bank whereby hundreds of it's flights leave for north america, europe and asia from dubai. (ie. EK204 departs DXB for JFK at 2:30am dubai local time). Also, the airfrance flight was due to pitot-static blockage and incorrect pilot inputs due to erroneous readings from the altimeter and airspeed indicator from said pitot-static tube.

3. Having flown multiple times solo in cold weather, i can tell you that isn't true. Infact, cold weather tends to be the best for aircraft performance and has a smoother air mass with little to no winds/turbulence. Commercial wise, aircrafts must undergo de-icing if the weather is severe and has the characteristics for ice build-up. Also again, there are hundreds and hundreds of late night flights all over the world.

4. That wasn't a regional carrier but rather South Korea's national flag carrier and one of the world's leading airlines in Korean Air. Also, going back to my first point in #1, not every airline serves smaller hubs for a variety of reasons. As such, you may be forced to take a regional airline.

5. Hundreds of brand new aircraft are delivered to airlines all over the world daily. A380 when first released never had any major issues (apart from the qantas one which occured way after). A350 same thing. New aircraft. New design. New technologies. New way of flying. 0 issues thus far.

 

[RealAssanova]

Three Years After Air France 447 Crash, A Hint of Scandal - The Atlantic

Breh was most likely smashing one of the crew and is on the voice recorder saying he got less than an hour of sleep that night. If he's up and / or enters the cockpit earlier with more rest, maybe the 30-something year old pilots don't fly a perfectly good plane into the Atlantic.

Yeah, maybe it wasn't definitively a hangover, but what else causes you to show up to work after less than an hour of sleep?

Maybe it was his crew member's guts, but homey wasn't well rested and nearly 230 people lost their lives in something that was pure fukkery. I honestly can't think of a worse / more terrifying crash outside of maybe that Eurowings where the pilot just decide everyone was gonna go with him.

The reason this happened was because of a pitot-static blockage. When this occurs, you get the opposite readings on your altimeter and airspeed indicator. Normally, they both work in tandem and move relative to the motion of flight. However in this particular case, the pilots were being told they were losing altitude and therefore increased the power and altitude and inadvertently entered into irrecoverable stall.

When you are flying over the atlantic ocean in the middle of the night, there is no outside horizon to verify if you're wings are level but an artificial horizon and you have spatial disorientation...those are all ingredients for a terrible and impending disaster.

 

[thatrapsfan]

1. To say something like that is absolutely absurd. There are well over 5000 ICAO registered airlines all over the world. The U.S. has 3 main global carriers in United, Delta and American. Southwest & Jetblue don't fly across overseas. 3/5000 = 0.0006%. The math is self-explanatory. That and not every U.S. carrier flies to everywhere in the world. There are also many impeccable airlines all over the world. (ie. Qantas, Lufthansa, Cathay)

2. There are many morning flights that depart north america for europe and vice versa (7am, 8am, 9am). Middle eastern carriers such as emirates have a huge overnight departure bank whereby hundreds of it's flights leave for north america, europe and asia from dubai. (ie. EK204 departs DXB for JFK at 2:30am dubai local time). Also, the airfrance flight was due to pitot-static blockage and incorrect pilot inputs due to erroneous readings from the altimeter and airspeed indicator from said pitot-static tube.

3. Having flown multiple times solo in cold weather, i can tell you that isn't true. Infact, cold weather tends to be the best for aircraft performance and has a smoother air mass with little to no winds/turbulence. Commercial wise, aircrafts must undergo de-icing if the weather is severe and has the characteristics for ice build-up. Also again, there are hundreds and hundreds of late night flights all over the world.

4. That wasn't a regional carrier but rather South Korea's national flag carrier and one of the world's leading airlines in Korean Air. Also, going back to my first point in #1, not every airline serves smaller hubs for a variety of reasons. As such, you may be forced to take a regional airline.

5. Hundreds of brand new aircraft are delivered to airlines all over the world daily. A380 when first released never had any major issues (apart from the qantas one which occured way after). A350 same thing. New aircraft. New design. New technologies. New way of flying. 0 issues thus far.

Didnt have the energy to respond to him, but youre 100 percent right. Absurd lol, its actually well established that no U.S. carrier ranks among the world's best.

 

[Serious]

Yep.

I used to be crazy afraid of planes so I researched a bunch of different plane crashes and have come up with a set of rules:

1. Always try to fly US-based airlines / airlines with American pilots - a lot of crashes are created by pilots freaking out under pressure when something stops feeling right; for better or worse American pilots have been flying combat missions and in combat zones, so a lot of them are just better under pressure (shouts out to Captain Sullenberger) AND the FAA is a lot better at figuring out the kinks in planes and giving pilots the heads up so they don't do stupid shyt

2. Avoid flying from a party / debaucherous city on an early AM flight - Pilots and airline staff like to get fukked up too. Read what happened with the Air France flight flying from Rio - perfectly good plane crashed into the sea because 2 pilots freaked the fukk out and the most senior pilot was in the back sleeping a hangover off after a night of partying until it was too late

3. Never fly an early AM or late flight when possible, especially if it's really cold or there's been a temperature drop - pilots are humans too and early morning fatigue is a thing; hella planes crash because ice forms up unexpectedly on surfaces and they didn't treat the planes enough before takeoff. Often times this happens early AM or in the evening when the temperature's dropped / there haven't been flights to communicate "fukk...this shyt's icy"

4. When at all possible, don't fly regional airlines when flying internationally - I consistently come out of pocket about $50-$75 more to hop on a Lufthansa or British Airways flight instead of some random regional airline; the regional airlines don't have the same standards of training for pilots and all manners of cultural considerations can lead to ridiculous fukkery (like the Asian airliner that crashed a few years ago because the Asian co-pilot didn't feel comfortable telling the more senior pilot he was fukking up because of the cultural awkwardness of doing so)

5. Avoid flying on newly released airplanes - sometimes it's not even the fact that a new airplane has a problem per se, but it's that flying on a new airplane means the flight is just that less routine to your pilot and crew...no matter how many hours you have in a simulator, if shyt starts to feel weird in the air, it's a different ball game

6. Avoid flying between bumblefukk cities - pilots on these routes are the B or C team or have less hours of flight time; stupid amount of fukkery related crashes on these kinds of routes; this is also obviously the case when traveling abroad - i'm flying to the capital city / financial center and driving from there even if it costs more; not worth the risk to me

@88m3

 

[3rdLetter]

So damn near the entire world grounded their 737 max planes except US based airlines. They're either stupid, scared to lose money, or know something nobody else does.

 

[Mike Nasty]

They're either stupid, scared to lose money, or know something nobody else does

Or American carriers aren't going to quickly dump on an American manufacturer. There has to be alot of politics in something like this.

 

[PhillyzFinest]

Why does these brand new 737 planes keep crashing

CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT:

During Trumps recent visit to Vietnam, Vietnam airlines Bamboo and VietJet were to place an order for 100's of 737 Max Boeing Jets. What a coincidence that a brand new Boeing 737 Max jet from Ethiopia just happens to crash, potentially halting this aircraft purchase deal that was worth billions for the US economy.

Chicago Tribune

Maybe this "crash" was on purpose to kill the deal.

Maybe...

But either way RIP

 

[Geek Nasty]

CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT:

During Trumps recent visit to Vietnam, Vietnam airlines Bamboo and VietJet were to place an order for 100's of 737 Max Boeing Jets. What a coincidence that a brand new Boeing 737 Max jet from Ethiopia just happens to crash, potentially halting this aircraft purchase deal that was worth billions for the US economy.

Chicago Tribune

Maybe this "crash" was on purpose to kill the deal.

Maybe...

But either way RIP

You know I was just wondering why China came out so vociferously about grounding the 737. Seemed premature to me

 

[FaTaL]

The reason this happened was because of a pitot-static blockage. When this occurs, you get the opposite readings on your altimeter and airspeed indicator. Normally, they both work in tandem and move relative to the motion of flight. However in this particular case, the pilots were being told they were losing altitude and therefore increased the power and altitude and inadvertently entered into irrevocable stall.

When you are flying over the atlantic ocean in the middle of the night, there is no outside horizon to verify if you're wings are level but an artificial horizon and you have spatial disorientation...those are all ingredients for a terrible and impending disaster.

One pilot was ascending and the other was descending. The design of the cockpit prevented them from seeing how stupid they were

Absolutely terrible

 

[Mike Nasty]

One pilot was ascending and the other was descending. The design of the cockpit prevented them from seeing how stupid they were

Absolutely terrible

There's videos saying the frozen pito tube is bad, but can be dealt with. Airbus uses joysticks on the side instead of a conventional yoke. The junior pilot was pulling back on the stick the whole time and no one, not even himself realized it until it was too late. To make matters worse the captain was standing behind both of them and didn't take over the controls.

 

[FaTaL]

There's videos saying the frozen pito tube is bad, but can be dealt with. Airbus uses joysticks on the side instead of a conventional yoke. The junior pilot was pulling back on the stick the whole time and no one, not even himself realized it until it was too late. To make matters worse the captain was standing behind both of them and didn't take over the controls.

U saw that YouTube vid? Absolutely terrible, the captain couldn’t figure it out either, to be fair the stick is not viewable from behind or the other seat. That’s a serious design flaw