Ever Read Any Machiavelli?

[Julius Skrrvin]

Read The Prince, then read Discourses on Livy. You'll soon come to understand that Machiavelli is the philosopher master troll. Dude's work is

 

[daze23]

tried to read The Prince, but it thoroughly disgusted me. I feel like I don't need a book to teach me how to be a selfish prick

 

[the cac mamba]

I've had you on ignore for months, cac.

I took you off just now to see what you had to say but I realize its more bullshyt.

Back on ignore

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

tried to read The Prince, but it thoroughly disgusted me. I feel like I don't need a book to teach me how to be a selfish prick

But it just as easily could teach you why pricks are so selfish so that's a bad way to look at reading breh.

 

[Benny P]

Loved The Prince. A lot of the ideas are simplistic but still applicable today. People don't change and thus are easy to figure out.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Did people not figure out what the Prince was in context? It's partially mocking the Medici on what is essentially his own job application for them. It's not a moral ruleset that he ascribes to. READ the discourses. The book is satire IMO. It exists to promote Republican government.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

i haven't read this since i was a teenager. i may have to revisit. although there is so much Nietzsche i still wanna read first. plus it's more recent. somebody told me not to bother with too much of the olde stuff.

 

[IronFist]

wasnt they suppose to be a part 2 to the prince?

 

[Swirv]

the prince is a 16th century originator of shyt like 48 laws of power and other shyt that will help you understand the mind of elitist power brokers. it's information that when applied correctly will help you maneuver through the matrix, but if applied incorrectly will lead to your own demise.

in other words, let it help you decipher the actions of others, but do not let it influence YOUR actions on a personal level.

please people, keep yourself separated from the actions of the beast or you will suffer the same fate.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

at nobody getting the historical/satirical context of this besides @Broke Wave and @MyGawdThePower

 

[Scustin Trillberlake]

Behold The Dark Triad

 

[NubianVitruvian]

the prince is a 16th century originator of shyt like 48 laws of power and other shyt that will help you understand the mind of elitist power brokers. it's information that when applied correctly will help you maneuver through the matrix, but if applied incorrectly will lead to your own demise.

in other words, let it help you decipher the actions of others, but do not let it influence YOUR actions on a personal level.

please people, keep yourself separated from the actions of the beast or you will suffer the same fate.

I've read all these books, throw in the I Ching are your good. You must know good and evil to know yourself.

 

[A.J.Soprano]

he's the best rapper

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

Been meaning to read his stuff

 

[Shogun]

Did people not figure out what the Prince was in context? It's partially mocking the Medici on what is essentially his own job application for them. It's not a moral ruleset that he ascribes to. READ the discourses. The book is satire IMO. It exists to promote Republican government.

I think it's an acknowledgement that if the Italian guild republics wanted to survive (i.e. resist the "barbarian" kingdoms to the north, especially France and the Holy Roman Empire) the hey needed to get their shyt together and start acting in the practical interest of the state.

He was in favor of republicanism, but recognized that they couldn't survive any other way.