The whole dating thing appears to be for unserious people over there.
The whole landscape of people seems pretty self centered and selfish
I said it before in the other thread. If you all dont get on your knees, start praying and start making solid families like the past(solid not perfect), whats left of your community will die. It's almost on life support now. Your social clubs are dying, your HBCU's are changing color, the racists are turning up the heat and the 'barbarians" are literally inside the door. Your birthrate and rates of childlessness and singleness are confirming it.
But ya'll are all over online complaining about gifts and dating ettiquette. GLOOM and DOOM is on the horizon without change.