Evolutionists: Tell Me about Love (nh)

[daze23]

it's a hard subject to pin down, since it's hard to pin down exactly what "love" is

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

because you're asking simplistic questions anyone can google, if they really wanted to know the answer. yes, many animals can feel the emotion we perceive as "love". if they couldn't feel "love", they wouldn't care for their offspring. but what we see as love is nothing more than a chemical response.

In my opening post I explained that I have googled the topic and came up with very little.

And let me clarify, I'm speaking particularly about romantic love, between a man and a woman with no familial relationships. You're calling it chemical reaction. I feel that's a very vague answer. Assuming your answer was sufficient, do animals have the same chemical reactions?

what is your definition of love? a lot of us use the word in vain, when we don't really feel the emotion.

I think it's quite clear most coli posters don't know anything about love. But just to clarify, I'm talking about love, not just the word 'love'.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

it's a hard subject to pin down, since it's hard to pin down exactly what "love" is

I think you're making this more difficult than it needs to be. I'm sure you know what love is, whether you've experienced it or not.

 

[marcuz]

In my opening post I explained that I have googled the topic and came up with very little.

And let me clarify, I'm speaking particularly about romantic love, between a man and a woman with no familial relationships. You're calling it chemical reaction. I feel that's a very vague answer. Assuming your answer was sufficient, do animals have the same chemical reactions?

you're just using words, man. how do you define "romantic love"? going out on dates? drinking wine under a candle lit light? isn't it all just courtship? you say i'm being vague, but you're equally vague.

I think it's quite clear most coli posters don't know anything about love. But just to clarify, I'm talking about love, not just the word 'love'.

..and what is "love" to you. can you define the emotion? when you see animals tending to their young, is that not love? when you hear about dogs that stay near their dead owners body for days, is that not love? if you're talking about relationships, it's called courting in the animal kingdom.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

you're just using words, man. how do you define "romantic love"? going out on dates? drinking wine under a candle lit light? isn't it all just courtship? you say i'm being vague, but you're equally vague.

Come on, man. You're a grown man and don't know what love is?

..and what is "love" to you. can you define the emotion? when you see animals tending to their young, is that not love? when you hear about dogs that stay near their dead owners body for days, is that not love?

I said romantic love. Between a male and a female with no familial relationships. What makes a man and a woman fall in love?

If you don't even know what love is () maybe you shouldn't have bothered to enter the thread.

 

[daze23]

I think you're making this more difficult than it needs to be. I'm sure you know what love is, whether you've experienced it or not.

I know what it is, but trying to use words to describe it in any meaningful way is another story

I think evolution can tell you a lot about the importance of pro-creation, the bond between mates, the bond between parent and child, and many things that are important to the survival of social creatures. the fact that we're social creatures is important, because we live in groups, and it's important we look out for one another. evolution selects those that have what it takes to survive. therefore we evolved into creatures that put great importance into our relationships with fellow humans. I guess you could say that was part of what lead us to this thing we call "love"

 

[marcuz]

Come on, man. You're a grown man and don't know what love is?

i understand that love is a chemical release of oxytocin in the brain. i also understand you're the one asking what love is, not me.

I said romantic love. Between a male and a female with no familial relationships. What makes a man and a woman fall in love?

If you don't even know what love is () maybe you shouldn't have bothered to enter the thread.

romance is a social construct. do you think cave men were romancing women? men and women fall in love because of hormones and chemical changes in the brain. which is why it's so easy for people to fall out of love.

if it's that hard for you to grasp, maybe you shouldn't have made the thread.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

I know what it is, but trying to use words to describe it in any meaningful way is another story

I think evolution can tell you a lot about the importance of pro-creation, the bond between mates, the bond between parent and child, and many things that are important to the survival of social creatures. the fact that we're social creatures is important, because we live in groups, and it's important we look out for one another. evolution selects those that have what it takes to survive. therefore we evolved into creatures that put great importance into our relationships with fellow humans. I guess you could say that was part of what lead us to this thing we call "love"

So what's the science behind it? Just a chemical reaction like @marcuz said? I don't think it's that simple. That doesn't explain how we choose mates. There's physical attraction which touches on aesthetics and beauty. But what's the science to that? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And this question can spawn many others like what drives our instinct to procreate? And why aren't all humans driven to procreate? Etc, but I don't wanna get too far off topic.

 

[marcuz]

So what's the science behind it? Just a chemical reaction like @marcuz said? I don't think it's that simple. That doesn't explain how we choose mates. There's physical attraction which touches on aesthetics and beauty. But what's the science to that? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And this question can spawn many others like what drives our instinct to procreate? And why aren't all humans driven to procreate? Etc, but I don't wanna get too far off topic.

most humans are driven to procreate, what do you think sex is for? recreation? we trick our biology by using birth control, but sex feels good because it's natures way of getting us to have off spring.

but since you've dismissed my question twice, i'll ask again. what do you think love is?

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

i understand that love is a chemical release of oxytocin in the brain. i also understand you're the one asking what love is, not me.

I'm not asking what love is. I'm asking how evolution explains it.

romance is a social construct. do you think cave men were romancing women? men and women fall in love because of hormones and chemical changes in the brain. which is why it's so easy for people to fall out of love.

IDK what cavemen were doing. That doesn't really have anything to do with my question. But are you saying that cavemen did not experience love? What are you basing that off of?

if it's that hard for you to grasp, maybe you shouldn't have made the thread.

You sound mad, bro.

 

[marcuz]

I'm not asking what love is. I'm asking how evolution explains it.

i'll already told you how scientist explain it, you don't believe it.

IDK what cavemen were doing. That doesn't really have anything to do with my question. But are you saying that cavemen did not experience love? What are you basing that off of?

where did i say cavemen didn't experience love?

You sound mad, bro.

not at all

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

most humans are driven to procreate, what do you think sex is for? recreation? we trick our biology by using birth control, but sex feels good because it's natures way of getting us to have off spring.

I see people in TLR everyday saying they don't want kids. So what does evolution say about these individuals?

And most human beings do have sex for recreation. That's why the birth control industry is so large. You're oversimplifying life by saying love is just a chemical reaction and sex is just for procreation. That would sound great in an essay or something unfortunately, life contradicts that everyday.

but since you've dismissed my question twice, i'll ask again. what do you think love is?

I'm not "hear" to educate you.

 

[thekingsmen]

OP got these kats scrambling for answers.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

That's it?

We're talking about possibly the most important aspect in human nature and you explained it in 4 words? Wow.

Anyone else wanna provide some insight?

Nah that's pretty much it.