Exactly how did Pan Africanism disadvantage African Americans? And why no smoke for integration?

[96Blue]

Hahahaha expect people from poor African countries to give money to people in the richest country on earth?

Hahahaha the coli.com

To add on.

It doesn't have to be money, but we need something out of it.

Africa is letting China build there infrastructure while colonizing them, but we're the bad people because we want to get something out of the deal?



FOH


But I'm not shocked, that's that one-sided Pan-Africanism I'm talking about.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

To add on.

It doesn't have to be money, but we need something out of it.

Africa is letting China build there infrastructure while colonizing them, but we're the bad people because we want to get something out of the deal?



FOH


But I'm not shocked, that's that one-sided Pan-Africanism I'm talking about.

How is it one sided? Lmao so there's only Africans and African Americans? I'm neither of them so how can it be one sided?

What would you like the poverty stricken Africans to give you breh?

 

[Mtt]

I see this said often and I'm still unsure of what it actually "did" to hurt us. It's largely been a cultural phenomenon. Clothing, books, movies, music, etc. There's almost zero policy affected by it, if any at all-- Or am I unaware??? I mean, white women ate off Affirmative Action, etc.

There's also this notion that "we've tried it and it didn't work/doing anything for us"-- Well what about integration??? Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of us see it for what it's been. Even King said he integrated us into a burning house, but it's strangely missing from all this discussion on reparations and identity And I hope we all can after it's been objectively worse than dashikis and medallions, so yeah... what's up with that?

We find creative ways of separating ourselves and fighting ourselves
We live in a materialistic individualism culture (the American Dream). Back then , the woman had to invite the man to the house and meet the family.or the guy and female had to have the mindset of getting married. As generations go by kids having kids that contribute to the recycling of poverty .you also have division in class, economic , religion.all these divisions that although other groups have but blacks cannot afford to have this but it happens.
Black businesses diminished and many ethnic groups bought out business or dominated the service industry gas stations,supermarkets,dry cleaning, laundromat etc.
Our parents dream is for us to go to school and get a good job and your judged on that not to have a business as a grocery store owner. Nothing wrong with that but something got lost along the way

Pan africanism would have worked well but look what they did to Marcus garvey and other black leaders.

I shake.my head folks wanting segregation imagine your a musician and you only allowed to go to the local black hotel to sleep otherwise you sleep in the van .have to find a black hotel or doctor or you have to go through the kitchen or drink different.water fountain that's insane!

It amazes me how some people chose Dr king or Malcolm x why can't we appreciate both brothers for their bravery and raising awareness to the world fighting for justice.

You don't need segragation to have your own business black community
The Hassidic community consistently have their own business local community and Chinese.

Blacks can go online and seek out black businesses online but we're trapped in this American dream in 'individualism" and brand name and status . If I buy an beer from Ghana, or an African American like that Harlem brand beer to a party . They look at you and want the Budweiser even if they didn't try it
The brainwashing is phenomenal.

Instead of networking with whoever wants to network with us
We spend time finding creative ways to hate each other or those that look like us.
Also the world is global. We can keep putting our energy calling debating Ados amor african americans the world don't care the word moving along.

In a cool fantasy world reparations folks get paid and create and support black business but you don't hear this but you only hear individual goals.

 

[96Blue]

How is it one sided? Lmao so there's only Africans and African Americans? I'm neither of them so how can it be one sided?

What would you like the poverty stricken Africans to give you breh?

It's one-sided because we have gave to and done a lot for Africa (organizations, our ancestors fought for them to come here, we were even vocal about apartheid) without getting nothing in exchange and now that we're asking for something in exchange, people like you're twiddling your thumbs at us and saying we live in the "world's richest country, what do we need from Africa?" All while expecting us to still be Pan-African with all of this being said/expected.

One way Africa can help us without giving us money is give us some of those resources.

I'm not going to put time and effort into something that's not going to benefit me in the end. If any African country aint tryna share those resources or give anything to us, then this Pan-African dream is scrapped.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

It's one-sided because we have gave to and done a lot for Africa (organizations, our ancestors fought for you guys to come here, we were even vocal about apartheid) without getting nothing in exchange and now that we're asking for something in exchange, people like you're twiddling your thumbs at us and saying we live in the "world's richest country, what do we need from Africa?" All while expecting us to still be Pan-African with all of this being said/expected.

One way Africa can help us without giving us money is give us some of those resources.

I'm not going to put time and effort into something that's not going to benefit me in the end. If any African country aint tryna share those resources or give anything to us, then this Pan-African dream is scrapped.

Fought for you guys to come here? Why do you keep talking as if I've come from Africa?

Not sure what you don't get but Africans don't even have control over the resources, they have been stolen and monopolised by cacs. This is why everyone should travel, lack of travel creates ignorance such as the type you're displaying right now.

 

[96Blue]

Fought for you guys to come here? Why do you keep talking as if I've come from Africa?

I really do apologize for that, I'm typing to quick. But yea, what I said stands.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

I really do apologize for that, I'm typing to quick. But yea, what I said stands.

No probs, but what I'm trying to explain is Africans don't even have control over their resources, it's cacs looting the whole of West Africa

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Breh, the point is, is shyt aint gon charge of there isn't any blood spilled. You tryna talk about having a lot of Black people doesn't mean anything, but something's gotta give.

Us Black Americans have went to bat for every Black person without getting anything out of it. We let everybody eat off of our plate while we could barely feed ourselves and now we want to eat alone (for lack of a better word).

Like I said, Ghana just made 1.9 Billion dollars off of the Year Of Return. Are they going to put money back in our communities, too?

Obviously not, and that's why we need to focus on ourselves for now.

Hell, Akon made money off of music that we created and even he is fixing his country in Africa and not giving us anything in return.

This Pan-African pipe dream is and always will be one-sided and we're done with it.

If there isn't blood spilled.

It's nikkaz right now busting back and telling France to leave Mali. That's just one situation. I'm not sure what you think but people fight back all the time.

Like I said your world view is limited. You don't like Africans so you will say anything to pretend you having a conversation. Nothing was one sided. Stop crying about nothing.

Lol @ being mad at Akon and Ghana

Nobody owe you shyt. You keep waiting and watching others you will keep being bitter

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

And their government isn't doing anything about it?

Damn, that's fukked up

You don't care. Just a corny nikka tryna stir up division because you hurt.

Black people will keep progressing and pan Africanism will be here.

Haters like you invested a lot of time over the last couple of years and it was a waste. Year of the return was a success while the agitators and dividers took massive L's. What has this new awakening achieved for you... Nothing.

 

[Wild self]

i mostly only hear "black people" online speak negatively about Pan africanism and integration anonymously .

And those same "people" say that economic boycotts don't work.

Dont listen to those defeatests

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Since when did "ados"(I assume you mean Americo liberians who are really a combination of black ados, caribbeans, mulattos, and freed slaves from the congo) ever make up anything close to the majority of Liberia?

And even still they managed to stop the native africans from engaging in the slave trade and make the country into one with the fastest growing economy ahead(or right behind) Japan at one point before the coup.

Also, I'm not just talking about whole countries here. There are a plethora of AA grass roots organizations and individuals have gone out of their way to help non-ados people when they're in need or facing injustice.

AAs have even spilled blood and given their LIVES physically fighting with boots on the ground when y'all were fighting against imperialism, even though we had plenty on our plate dealing with jim crow ourselves.
John Robinson (aviator) - Wikipedia

Would some silver spoon fed spoiled first world brats do that? And this characterization of my people just shows the lack of appreciation and disrespect you have for us. We ain't kin. That's for damn sure.

When have Africans ever lifted a finger to do help AAs in a way that comes anything close to that? I'm not just talking about whole nations. I'm talking about private organizations and notable individuals as well. Surely someone like aliko dangote had, and still has, the means to help out with the flint water crisis, right. It was a global crisis so surely he must've heard about it. The same way 50 cent and Robert F Smith reached out to help out in numerous ways to help people in Africa.

Like I said this shyt is a one way street and y'all are tryna splain away what's obvious here. We want out this shyt. Non-Ados can be "pan african" among themselves.

Ya say less

Ignorance...

 

[Wild self]

I've never heard anyone say that pan africanism "disadvantaged" african americans

How long you been on the Coli? Plenty of FBA saying that foreign black people mess up their way of life and take advantage of Pan-Africanism for their advantage.

 

[Emoryal]

I've never heard anyone say that pan africanism "disadvantaged" african americans

Poor thoughtout strawman. Its what trolls do.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

If there isn't blood spilled.

It's nikkaz right now busting back and telling France to leave Mali. That's just one situation. I'm not sure what you think but people fight back all the time.

Like I said your world view is limited. You don't like Africans so you will say anything to pretend you having a conversation. Nothing was one sided. Stop crying about nothing.

Lol @ being mad at Akon and Ghana

Nobody owe you shyt. You keep waiting and watching others you will keep being bitter

Breh, this guy is just talking to talk

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

How long you been on the Coli? Plenty of FBA saying that foreign black people mess up their way of life and take advantage of Pan-Africanism for their advantage.

How? How could I as a foreign black mess up someone else's way of life