Exclusives are a GOOD thing and without it, gaming would be WORSE off.

[gurf]

Being able to play the couple single player games they drop every year for an arbitrary exclusivity window is becoming a dying selling point. There's no more real exclusives cause anything is fair game now with coming to PC.

Sony is hurting themselves by putting their games everywhere for quick dollars. Better for the consumer though.

That is the selling point.

"hey we got some shyt over here you can't get anywhere else"

You think exclusives will stop once everyone has a streaming platform and consoles cease to exist?

No it won't. Hell, look at Epic Games vs Steam. You can't get Fortnite on steam.

 

[Fatboi1]

Being able to play the couple single player games they drop every year for an arbitrary exclusivity window is becoming a dying selling point. There's no more real exclusives cause anything is fair game now with coming to PC.

Sony is hurting themselves by putting their games everywhere for quick dollars. Better for the consumer though.

How is it a dying selling point? Are there numbers available to show games have been selling worse now that a PC version released some time later? Not a single game that came to PC was announced as "PC release on X/X/XXXX" at the time of it's announcement.

11 million units sold as of April 2024 on one platform alone, and the PC version dropped in January 2025, over a year later. Even then, there was an unofficial leaked port floating around the internet for a few months.

I think what's going on here, is being online has created this perspective that games that are releasing on PC after PS5 and is selling like crazy so you think everyone on consoles are sitting around waiting for a PC release therefore to you , you think that window is worthless since you believe everyone else is sitting around waiting.

God of War Ragnarok sold 15 million in a year on PS5/PS4. How much on Steam? The Steam numbers are not in the millions like they do on consoles. The majority of the install base is on consoles.

They are not selling like the way it's being portrayed here. Y'all like to say "but Helldivers 2 tho." but ignore other flops like Concord which was a day 1 PC release. It flopped everywhere but that doesn't suit the narrative.


On the contrary, PS5 sales are still trending high and selling like hot cakes despite some of their games being on PC. If the numbers showed PS5 numbers were slowing down tremendously and sales of their PC releases were selling multiple millions, that "Sony is hurting themselves" point would be true. 77.8 million as of March 2025 but they're hurting. Lol.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

I don’t really. Yall talk about “day one” or not so you can discredit any game that might come to the service later.

If you check the game threads i’m very rarely in them day one. I play the games as i get to them.


I have done this with plenty of gamepass games, especially ones that may have some glaring issues at launch.

Negative. That's more ya'll angle cuz those same games be coming to PSN later and ya'll turn ya'll noses up at that. Continue being dishonest, disgraceful and inconsistent tho.

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

That is the selling point.

"hey we got some shyt over here you can't get anywhere else"

You think exclusives will stop once everyone has a streaming platform and consoles cease to exist?

No it won't. Hell, look at Epic Games vs Steam. You can't get Fortnite on steam.

It's not about what I think because I don't see any sense to what Sony is doing.

GOW / TLOU / etc on PC is just as ridiculous as Fortnite on Steam. But PC players are eating.

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

How is it a dying selling point? Are there numbers available to show games have been selling worse now that a PC version released some time later? Not a single game that came to PC was announced as "PC release on X/X/XXXX" at the time of it's announcement.


11 million units sold as of April 2024 on one platform alone, and the PC version dropped in January 2025, over a year later. Even then, there was an unofficial leaked port floating around the internet for a few months.

I think what's going on here, is being online has created this perspective that games that are releasing on PC after PS5 and is selling like crazy so you think everyone on consoles are sitting around waiting for a PC release therefore to you , you think that window is worthless since you believe everyone else is sitting around waiting.

God of War Ragnarok sold 15 million in a year on PS5/PS4. How much on Steam? The Steam numbers are not in the millions like they do on consoles. The majority of the install base is on consoles.

They are not selling like the way it's being portrayed here. Y'all like to say "but Helldivers 2 tho." but ignore other flops like Concord which was a day 1 PC release. It flopped everywhere but that doesn't suit the narrative.


On the contrary, PS5 sales are still trending high and selling like hot cakes despite some of their games being on PC. If the numbers showed PS5 numbers were slowing down tremendously and sales of their PC releases were selling multiple millions, that "Sony is hurting themselves" point would be true. 77.8 million as of March 2025 but they're hurting. Lol.

How much something is selling has zero bearing on me as a consumer who is looking to maximize his experience with games, and this is more indicative of Sony's marketing.

And it clearly doesn't matter to Sony either with how they are continuing to bring games to PC.

 

[Fatboi1]

How much something is selling has zero bearing on me as a consumer who is looking to maximize his experience with games, and this is more indicative of Sony's marketing.

but you're also saying Sony is hurting themselves and that it's a dying selling point while ignoring the fact that you are a minority in that "I will wait a year or more to play a game on PC" camp. Did you wait to play any of the exclusives that dropped on PS5 this generation?

Did you wait for Spider-Man 2? FFXVI? Rebirth? Demon's Souls? GT7? Astrobot? Returnal? Stellar Blade? TLOU PT 1? Horizon? GOW? Ratchet? Gonna wait for GTA VI? Yotei? DS2? Intergalactic? Saros? Wolverine?
It's all fun and games now, but the day those games release going forward are you going to stand on your principles and not buy them?

And it clearly doesn't matter to Sony either with how they are continuing to bring games to PC.

*at a much later date*

If they're selling millions on PS5, PS5 is still selling like crazy, they release a game on PC down the line and it sells a few hundred thousand units at most, how does this negatively impact them? It literally contradicts the "it's a dying selling point" point you mentioned earlier. Most people are still buying a PS5 for those games. To me, this narrative doesn't seem to hold up IRL. Most people don't care about these games on PC as evidenced by the lowly numbers on Steam.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

To the LBots...yes they are.

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

but you're also saying Sony is hurting themselves and that it's a dying selling point while ignoring the fact that you are a minority in that "I will wait a year or more to play a game on PC" camp. Did you wait to play any of the exclusives that dropped on PS5 this generation?

Did you wait for Spider-Man 2? FFXVI? Rebirth? Demon's Souls? GT7? Astrobot? Returnal? Stellar Blade? TLOU PT 1? Horizon? GOW? Ratchet? Gonna wait for GTA VI? Yotei? DS2? Intergalactic? Saros? Wolverine?
It's all fun and games now, but the day those games release going forward are you going to stand on your principles and not buy them?

*at a much later date*

If they're selling millions on PS5, PS5 is still selling like crazy, they release a game on PC down the line and it sells a few hundred thousand units at most, how does this negatively impact them? It literally contradicts the "it's a dying selling point" point you mentioned earlier. Most people are still buying a PS5 for those games. To me, this narrative doesn't seem to hold up IRL. Most people don't care about these games on PC as evidenced by the lowly numbers on Steam.

Sony is doing exactly how they should be doing by not fully committing to any single user base.

They'll never see Nintendo's success from their exclusivity strategy, and they'll never see Microsoft's success on PC from day one launches - HD2 being the obvious exception and hopefully a change for the better.

 

[Fatboi1]

Sony is doing exactly how they should be doing by not fully committing to any single user base.

They'll never see Nintendo's success from their exclusivity strategy, and they'll never see Microsoft's success on PC from day one launches - HD2 being the obvious exception and hopefully a change for the better.

Nintendo just has brand recognition and time on their hand. Nobody is going to get to those levels overnight. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon are just too big. Metroid Prime though isn't getting those numbers though. God of War, Uncharted, Horizon etc are bigger than Metroid for example. I think the series has sold like 22 million, while Uncharted with less games sold over 50 million.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

I think the series has sold like 22 million,

Crazy, horizon alone did 25m

metroid is one of those games people talk about more than they actually play though

 

[The Mad Titan]

Crazy, horizon alone did 25m

metroid is one of those games people talk about more than they actually play though

Sounds like most PlayStation 1st party games.

#astrobot

 

[Rekkapryde]

Sounds like most PlayStation 1st party games.

#astrobot

trying way too hard

probably got a green dildo up your ass licking Phil's picture on your phone

 

[The Mad Titan]

trying way too hard

probably got a green dildo up your ass licking Phil's picture on your phone

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

 

[Fatboi1]

Sounds like most PlayStation 1st party games.

#astrobot

That Hellblade 2 number is crazy