@Ezekiel 25:17: Players And Bad Boys Only Exist In The BC

[number21]

Toxic masculinity is a real thing. Anyone with an abusive alcoholic father can tell you that. (Thankfully I didn't.)

If you don't like the term you can just call it "men not taking social responsibility for their actions."



If it walks like an incel...

And youre bum that isnt about anything. You dont want real change in your community.

Youre honestly fine with how things are. Just want more respect and love from cacs.

 

[Black Panther]

Its a real thing but it is used to shut down actual proper ideals and thoughts.

Like for example: men being the head of the household, the woman being a prized property of a man, feminism/homosexuality and all that extra demonology is a cancer to the black community.

And youre bum that isnt about anything. You dont want real change in your community.

Youre honestly fine with how things are. Just want more respect and love from cacs.

Happy Pride Month, breh. I don't partake, but I fully support you living your truth.

 

[number21]

Happy Pride Month, breh. I don't partake, but I fully support you living your truth.

Goofy ass peon. Dont project your sweetness onto me.

Have a good one.

 

[Uachet]

I think you quoted the wrong person.

No, I quoted the right person. You are talking about how he hates Black women with what he is doing, and I conceed that point. That is not what this thread is about though. This thread is about a man who made that statement I quoted. I am asking you directly, do you not consider that Black self-hatred too? Do you think it is fine to generalize that characterization over the Black community (Black men in particular)?

If you would have made your arguments in his other threads, that were postings of unhinged Black women speaking out the side of their mouths, your argument would fit. You posted that argument in this thread, and it is not about Black women but instead about a man who has implied something that is negative only exists in the Black community.

 

[Uachet]

Toxic masculinity is a real thing. Anyone with an abusive alcoholic father can tell you that. (Thankfully I didn't.)

If you don't like the term you can just call it "men not taking social responsibility for their actions."



If it walks like an incel...

Do you think Toxic Femininity also exist? I ask, because plenty have also grown up with abusive mothers. In fact, the stats show that the main abuser of children are women, and that holds in all communities (Including ours).

Also, since it is very evident you are fine with Toxic masculinity being exposed and talked about, are you also fine with Toxic Femininity being given the same treatment. Are you unbiased on the issue, or biased?

 

[Black Panther]

I am asking you directly, do you not consider that Black self-hatred too? Do you think it is fine to generalize that characterization over the Black community (Black men in particular)?

It is, and it comes from the same poisonous, self-hating root IMO. Saying that there aren't "players" and "bad boys" in White, Latino, and Asian communities is ludicrous.

Do you think Toxic Femininity also exist? I ask, because plenty have also grown up with abusive mothers. In fact, the stats show that the main abuser of children are women, and that holds in all communities (Including ours).

Yes, absolutely. Doesn't mean it's exactly equal between men and women but it certainly exists.

Also, since it is very evident you are fine with Toxic masculinity being exposed and talked about, are you also fine with Toxic Femininity being given the same treatment. Are you unbiased on the issue, or biased?

I do not excuse toxic femininity.

I generally give Black women the benefit of the doubt, mainly because A) I unashamedly adore Black femininity, and B) they're one of the most shït-on demographics in the US (hell, probably the world). I can call out toxicity when it's warranted--even when it's Black women being toxic--but bashing Black women has never sat right with me. Especially when people make blanket statements about them.

You and I both know (assuming your wife is Black, that is) the power of having a good Black woman in your corner.

 

[KidJSoul]

He made a post saying "I dont know any other men that talk about and objectifying their women that way like black men do"

That was a low point. He deleted the comment but the thread is still up

 

[Uachet]

It is, and it comes from the same poisonous, self-hating root IMO. Saying that there aren't "players" and "bad boys" in White, Latino, and Asian communities is ludicrous.



Yes, absolutely. Doesn't mean it's exactly equal between men and women but it certainly exists.



I do not excuse toxic femininity.

I generally give Black women the benefit of the doubt, mainly because A) I unashamedly adore Black femininity, and B) they're one of the most shït-on demographics in the US (hell, probably the world). I can call out toxicity when it's warranted--even when it's Black women being toxic--but bashing Black women has never sat right with me. Especially when people make blanket statements about them.

You and I both know (assuming your wife is Black, that is) the power of having a good Black woman in your corner.

In the bold, if you look at the actual statistics, you’ll see that no, it is not equal. Toxic femininity is actually worse. Yet in our society, we are only focused on one side of the equation—rarely the other. You can’t fix a problem or balance the scales if you’re only looking at one side, regardless of its position.


Black men are nowhere near as bad as we are often portrayed. Many Black men are single, and most are not participating in the chaos within our communities. Additionally, the majority of children born into households with different fathers typically come from a small subset of men. Yet the blame for this is generalized across the entire Black male population. I’ve made posts exposing this.


So here is my take—and I’ve made this clear many times before: The negative issues in our community are not caused by the entirety of our population, not even by the majority. Still, the blame is generalized onto men, while the role women play is often obscured.


I have no issue with calling out the BS on both sides. What I do have a problem with is generalizing blame across all of our people based on the actions of a few—regardless of gender. I also believe that if you’re fine with exposing the faults of one sex, but get defensive when it comes to the other, then you are biased and should not be taken seriously when discussing the real issues our community faces.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

I generally give Black women the benefit of the doubt,

Then you are not equipped for this conversation, nor are you ready to truly prepare your son for what lays ahead.

 

[Black Panther]

In the bold, if you look at the actual statistics, you’ll see that no, it is not equal. Toxic femininity is actually worse. Yet in our society, we are only focused on one side of the equation—rarely the other. You can’t fix a problem or balance the scales if you’re only looking at one side, regardless of its position.

Yeah, this is where I fundamentally disagree with you. What "statistics" are you referring to?

Because the vast majority of reported violent sexual assaults are perpetrated by men against women (something like 90%), and I consider that as an outgrowth of toxic masculinity. That certainly doesn't mean women don't do it (and female sexual assault against men is very underreported) but it's not even close.

The focus on men's toxic traits are due, at least in part, to the idea that men are more likely to cross the line into physically assaulting someone.

 

[Black Panther]

Then you are not equipped for this conversation, nor are you ready to truly prepare your son for what lays ahead.

The result of not buying in to Trash Panditry, I'm afraid.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

The result of not buying in to Trash Panditry, I'm afraid.

No, the result of not caring black manhood. Your son will suffer and blame you later anyway

 

[Uachet]

Yeah, this is where I fundamentally disagree with you. What "statistics" are you referring to?

Because the vast majority of reported violent sexual assaults are perpetrated by men against women (something like 90%), and I consider that as an outgrowth of toxic masculinity. That certainly doesn't mean women don't do it (and female sexual assault against men is very underreported) but it's not even close.

The focus on men's toxic traits are due, at least in part, to the idea that men are more likely to cross the line into physically assaulting someone.

You can do a search right on this website for my posts that show them. You can also do a search yourself if you are actually interested in knowing the truth.

Also, I see you resorted to talking about sexual assaults when I mentioned abuse of children. The vast majority of child abuse cases are perpetrated by women. What do you think happens to those abused children when they grow up? You have heard of "The Cycle of Abuse", right?

Facts and Stats about Child Abuse | Child Protect

Facts and statistics about Child Abuse across the United States and Central Alabama provided by Child Protect of Montgomery, AL

www.childprotect.org

Child abuse victims by perpetrator relationship U.S. 2022| Statista

In the United States, perpetrators of child abuse are more likely to be parents of the child, rather than a non-parent.

www.statista.com

So I ask again, considering who is the main perpetraitor of child abuse, child fatalities, which one is worse?

 

[Uachet]

The result of not buying in to Trash Panditry, I'm afraid.

Why did you not say, "I give Black people the benefit of doubt?" Just to be clear, I am asking this now. Does your propensitity to give the benefit of doubt extend to Black men too?

 

[Black Panther]

Why did you not say, "I give Black people the benefit of doubt?"

...Because I didn't want to?

Just to be clear, I am asking this now. Does your propensitity to give the benefit of doubt extend to Black men too?

Yep.